2009-02-09, 23:31 | Link #1542 |
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That's kind of .... redundant???? Being a Protestant, by definition, means you protest the Catholic system -- you don't see the Pope as the inerrant direct line to God.
Protestantism is founded on individual connections to God, that "my way or else" isn't quite right (though you wouldn't know it sometimes from the noises some protestant evangelists make in their assertions).
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2009-02-10, 02:23 | Link #1543 | |
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2009-02-10, 09:28 | Link #1545 |
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I don't see why people would bother with the comparisons...everyone got their own beliefs, it's not something easy to change but even if they differ from yours, what's it to you? it's not like you're gonna marry them or something. Can't say I dislike a religion (although I don't know all of them), unless its practice includes acts that violate human rights in any way or are otherwise unaccepted by modern society.
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2009-02-10, 14:25 | Link #1546 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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The problem with "live and let live" is that some religions are the "One True Way" and part of the usual tenet is that you *must* try to save everyone else. "Convert or die" in some cases.... in some extreme cases, simply "You are not of us, die". Some religions shun family members who have split from the religion (ostracize, cut off, "you are dead to me" sort of shunning).
More tolerant religions or inclusive philosophy systems have trouble figuring out how to respond to such aggressiveness (unless they have a strong secular system that can deal with the discriminatory or violent side of it as a crime).
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2009-02-11, 03:03 | Link #1549 | ||
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2009-02-11, 04:02 | Link #1550 |
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Not seeking for converts that's surely super-PC and super unoffensive. However, for a religion that understands itself as universal (i.e. isn't closed for "humans born wrong" anyway) seeking for converts is as naturally as seeking voters for a party. When the British Labour party holds a party congress to decide if they should ask peope to vote for them or if they rather should advise Tory voters to stay with the Tories then I think its time to disband the party. Either you think you have a world view to offer or you don't.
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2009-02-11, 14:07 | Link #1552 |
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I think if you truly, sincerely believe in your religion and its not a religion that explicitly claims to be "one path among many" or something like that, then it's almost immoral to not try to convert people when you can. I mean, converting them would save their souls or make them spiritually happier or whatever your religion preaches. Choosing not to at least try to help others is like leaving people to die in the street rather than calling an ambulance. It'd be selfish.
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2009-02-11, 14:25 | Link #1553 |
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I'm basically agnostic. I was raised Catholic, but it never really stuck with me. I just don't see how people can be so sure of beliefs without any proof. I know that is what faith is and all that, but I just figure there are so many different beliefs, how could anyone know whats right? So, I'll wait and see. Maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't, maybe there are many. Who know?
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2009-02-11, 17:36 | Link #1555 | |
Le fou, c'est moi
Join Date: Dec 2007
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*cough* Calvinism *cough* The logic is fuzzy ("You're inclined to goodness in your heart and great worldly success because God predestined you to be good and heavenly and successful") but it works, sort of. |
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2009-02-11, 18:09 | Link #1557 | |
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Its very annoying and a waste of paper because i throw it in the garbage. This happens about every 2 weeks |
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2009-02-11, 18:14 | Link #1558 | |
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It's different here, at least where my parents live and here in Paris. Because the only people who knocked to the door of my parents' house were Jehovah's followers. And it happens rarely. No Catholic or Christians ever did that. And here in Paris, the only rare people I remember who tried to give me brochures are Jehovahs and Gedeons. |
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2009-02-11, 18:15 | Link #1559 |
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Honestly... no. =/ Because like.. my opinion on Athiest is that they don't care about religions because they don't really believe in it. They don't really have anything to offer and try to convert other people, while religious do have stuff to offer and convince them to join their religion. Sorry if I sound confusing, I don't know how to put it into words.
Okay for example, religious people owns garden of flowers. Each religious represent different flowers for instant, and the Atheist are the people who doesn't own a garden. The religious people try to convince others to join their garden. Do you see where I'm going..? And I don't count the people who call themselves Atheist who "believe" in science that tries to convert religious people because that's like disrespecting their religion to me, saying that your Lord doesn't exist and that you should join us. What I don't like though, is the religious people force other people including the Atheist to join their religion. That's different than trying to convert. =/ So yeah, Atheist that try to convert the religious groups are like disrespecting their religions to me that's why I dislike it. I hope that answer your question. Once again, I'm sorry if I don't make much sense. xD And another point I would like to make is that even though I am Catholic I don't diss the Atheist people, as long as they don't keep telling me how God doesn't exist and stuff. I respect their opinion so they should do the same. |
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