2013-03-25, 11:05 | Link #201 | |
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Does that book include the rest of the Carnelian illustrations featured in the novels thus far? Those have also been very hard to find. |
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2013-03-25, 11:18 | Link #202 |
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Her character design, mostly. Although her "cool beauty" archetype is fine too, though most of what she did so far involves saving 666th ass, then ranting about those Ostland commie scum and then making up with Theodore after some stuff happens.
Yeah, Sylwia (her name is supposed to be spelled with "w", since Polish doesn't actively use "v" letter, with "w" pretty much replacing it phonetically - just a minor tidbit) is a pretty minor character, but with a rather horrific backstory. It will make you actively hate Russians, and root for BETA when they're chewing through them. I wouldn't know - I don't actually own the novels, so I have no idea what illustrations are in them. I only have the TSFiA.
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As of the writing of this post, the main Schwarzesmarken website has updated the splash page with a sample illustration from the 29th chapter, and things look pretty grim for Liz (though the chapter summaries page STILL hasn't been updated past ch. 24). That chapter has a release date of May 2013. |
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2013-03-26, 13:00 | Link #204 |
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She's a kuudere until she starts talking; at which point she becomes somewhat more...vicious.
Also, I should have made it more clear - she's West German, so she's beyond Stasi's jurisdiction. She's part of Huckebein Squadron, which flies the F-5Gs that were popping up here and there. And I don't think she looks Asian at all, barring the art convention. Long black hair is in no way unique to that part of the world. Not common, sure, but frequent enough to not be considered unique. Neither is slim athletic build. Not every European woman looks like Irisdina. The illustrations are up until vol. 23 of the novel. The one in which Liz gets flak from rest of the 666th with Theodore defending her is pretty much the last major illustration. It's kinda funny whenever Latorova ends up being brought up - I agree that she's much more morally upstanding than most Soviet officers, but I *still* cannot agree to most of what she's saying.
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You're telling me; if Irisdina was real she'd likely be a supermodel. She may not have the 96G bust size that Carnelian often liked to give her adult women characters in the past, but her proportions definitely put her into the "I can't believe she's not the Goddess Venus walking this Earth" category. Quote:
I'm a YuuyaxCryska shipper myself, but Latrova would have been quite intriguing. |
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2013-03-27, 02:12 | Link #206 | |
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Or that's how I remember it; I'll probably need to go back and rewatch TE.
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2013-03-27, 03:02 | Link #207 | |
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From what I hear from those who have read the novels this is touched on more than in the anime, thus the anime only shows the more direct parts. Its not so much she is morally upstanding or anything, just that she has her set of rules, and she stands by them to the best reality allows. Leads by example.
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2013-03-27, 10:39 | Link #208 |
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Aaaahhhhh, those Teutons
Well, there have been some theories floating around. To be honest, without there being major novel translations, I can't vouch for them, but here they are: Spoiler for Schwarz 101:
There's also the question of pragmatism - the 666th is one of the best units in the NVA, which is currently backed against the wall against the BETA. Take them out, and East Germany looses a very significant, capable asset, which cannot be replaced - it's just how bad attrition had become. In addition, the rest of the Army apparently sees the Schwarzesmarken as either heroes or party goons. Have them killed, and NVA will begin to openly question their loyalty to the state. This is something that Stasi cannot afford, if they want to keep the war going...of course, Beatrix doesn't really look like a sort of person who cares. As for Liz, I think she's getting cold shoulder/bulling from rest of the team, given the paranoia that's she's Stasi spy. Given that she was supposed to be dead until very recently...yeah. --- It's funny, but the whole "white pale skin" trick in Japanese media is not very correlating to reality. Most East-Asians (many Japanese included) tend to have skin tone darker than Europeans; thing is, Japanese really dig the whole white color thing. But that's a completely different discussion. Also, her design is not unusual if we take into account that Kirke was born in West Germany - a country not actively defending its borders. Yes, they send troops and materiel to the DDR, but in limited quantities. So they're not stuck in perpetual war situation as East - there's likely no rationing, no full-time draft...you don't spend all your time in the base doing drills or avoiding StateSec or Russians from raping you. Kirke's probably a volunteer pilot who spent her time doing drills, regular training and then having time off in the local German town, picking up guys or whatever German babe pilots do with their time off. And no. Please. 80's hairdos are dead for a reason. Don't bring them back.
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I doubt the East Germans, deprived as they were of 1st-World Media in the 1980s, would be exposed to famous fashion trends as the rest of the 1st World was. How old is Liz anyway? In reality, twintails and hair bows almost always get put away after girls get past 12 years of age. |
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As for the danger level...well, it's no more dangerous than being Fried Chicken, Stasi or no Stasi. Quote:
According to Theodore's memories, both Liz and his adoptive family were all executed by Stasi, after they tried to cross the Berlin Wall. Quote:
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Schwarzemarken show that West Germany is *still* treated with highest order of prejudice, given how they go out of their way to lock them out of East-German communications during joint operations, beyond what's absolutely necessary to coordinate army movements. That, and Western troops are still treated as borderline enemies, even as they're saving NVA's ass outta fire. That gives some food for thought. Quote:
Besides, to me Carnelian-sama is trying to channel "cool foreign beauty"...but you're already in a story where everyone is a cool foreign beauty. So, Japanese style ho! And it's not like Schwarzemarken is wholly realistic about those things. I mean, silver hair is not a legitimate hair color for Polish women unless they dye it, for example. Quote:
Also, Liz is somewhat younger than Theodore. By a few years, not sure how much exactly. @Grevierr Sadly, there aren't any.
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2013-03-28, 08:47 | Link #212 |
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Thats too bad. Needed more references before I build my A-10. Managed to snag a Type-94-1C with Railgun for 15000 yen as well... might make a clone to give to my A-10...
Someone said more dakka? A-10 with type-99 cannons? Come Jul, going for summer wonderfest to pick up the full armor version of the A-10 by someguy who sculpted his own...
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Your "thought" is one of ignorance. Only 50% of Germans can be considered "blond", with the other half being half brown and half black. Furthermore, south of the Weißwurstäquator Germans tend to have the "Alpine" characteristics as opposed to the "Nordic" characteristics of the Germans north of the Weißwurstäquator.
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Any chance we'll get more scans from the Schwarzesmarken TSFIA from you soon? |
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Weißwurstäquator: Supposed cultural boundary separating Southern Germany, especially Bavaria, from Central Germany. |
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2013-03-31, 14:57 | Link #216 |
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You don't really need helmets when the entire HuD is supposedly projected onto your retina anyway - and if your TSF gets hit, well, it's unlikely that any helmet would help against repeated Grappler strikes. So why bother with the cost?
Plus, helmets are hardly heroic ;p As for the scans - I'll probably hold off for the time. I no longer have a direct access to a scanner, and it'll be some time before I do again, and will also have the time to actually sit down and do it properly.
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Illfriede: "Scheiße Englisch!" (storms off) ...Right.
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2013-03-31, 19:11 | Link #219 |
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...Funny, I recall that there used to be a doujin/semi-official piece of work which showed Three German Babes meeting French Taiga and speaking to her in English; and her barking back the equivalent phrase in French.
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Second chapter of Schwarzesmaken "Land of the Dead Gods" - in Russian.
My apologies for English speakers, but I can do only that I can do http://full-metal-panic.ru/forum/vie...hp?f=70&t=5370 Maybe at least Alastor Mobius Toth as fellow Slavonian can read this. |
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