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TurkeyPotPie · 2011-04-28, 02:40

So what are your thoughts on the PSN data leak? Fortunately, I never used a credit card on PSN. After having some problems getting MS to stop my PSO subscription way back on the original Xbox, I never used a credit card with Live or PSN. Instead I used prepaid cards.

However, the leak of other personal info is worrisome. I checked and I did at least use my real address, which is not a big deal, but I can't tell what other info I may have given PSN.

I wonder how much this is going to cost Sony. It is amazing to see the way they've self-destructed this generation after the domination they had in the previous two.

Duo Maxwell · 2011-04-28, 02:47

No big deal, aside from the personal info leak. Most of the bank actually got informed from Sony, and when people call them regarding the credit card in their PSN account, thing got resolved as fast as possible.

Sciel · 2011-04-28, 03:25

Extremely disappointed in Sony. Yes they were hacked but to leak almost everything is laughable.

Thankfully all my purchases were with cards that were already cancelled.

Xacual · 2011-04-28, 03:30

The worst part of the situation is just that they waited almost a week to report the situation. That is absolutely unbelievable.

Drake · 2011-04-28, 03:31

I highly doubt sony contacted the banks of all 70 million odd customers to inform them that their customers credit card details may have been stolen and the fact it took them a week to tell any of their customers that it had happened in the first place doesn't do them any favors.

Weather anything actually ever happened or was to happen as a result of someones stolen data is irrelevant now the fact that its happened at all is the real disaster/public relations nightmare for sony and if you look at there stock value you'll see its already had an impact.

Aside from a first class action lawsuit and the pending ICO investigation I'd say alot of fans will be left with a sour taste at the end of it all and weather or not any inadequacies are actually found in the security infrastructure of the PSN it wont reverse any damage to the companies image.

So really it is a pretty big deal.

Luckily for me I never used my credit card on the PSN although my PS3 is bust anyway so I don't particularly value my PSN account at the minute.

Kafriel · 2011-04-28, 03:58

Just imagine what would happen if your leaked e-mails were sold to all the spammers in the world...really glad I don't use PSN! I pity all the people who lost their money and privacy, and I can only look at Sony to make it up to them...although I bet next month DLC will be flooding with packets as usual.

Shiroth · 2011-04-28, 04:04

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

No big deal, aside from the personal info leak. Most of the bank actually got informed from Sony, and when people call them regarding the credit card in their PSN account, thing got resolved as fast as possible.

I'd love to know where you heard this.

Duo Maxwell · 2011-04-28, 04:13

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

I'd love to know where you heard this.

From my brother and some other people on Kotaku. He asked the bank right after that, and when they heard the name Sony and PSN, they stopped all the transaction that may go on from there.

Well, I may be not knowledgeable about this stuff, since I only talk about my closed people's experience after all.

Keroko · 2011-04-28, 04:22

*shrug* I don't own a credit card (and would never use it for online transactions anyway, for this very reason) so all they've got on me is... my name, address and e-mail. Big whoop. Hackers can get that information by hacking almost any site you register on, most of which are much easier to hack too.

What hurts me more (and even then the term hurts is more weighty than it really is to me) is the fact that PSN is down. But meh, I have enough singleplayer games to pass the time.

StarTouch · 2011-04-28, 04:37

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Originally Posted by Keroko

*shrug* I don't own a credit card (and would never use it for online transactions anyway, for this very reason) so all they've got on me is... my name, address and e-mail. Big whoop. Hackers can get that information by hacking almost any site you register on, most of which are much easier to hack too.

What hurts me more (and even then the term hurts is more weighty than it really is to me) is the fact that PSN is down. But meh, I have enough singleplayer games to pass the time.

This basically sums up what I feel regarding the situation.

Sure, not being able to access the PSN (and play Blazblue with friends out there ^_^) is a bit of a downer but as Keroko said, my single-player games (in my case, RPGs) are more than enough to keep me occupied. I'm probably gonna guess Sony's gonna slap down some discounts (or maybe even freebies?) on the PSN once it's back up.

As for the actual "external intrusion" (as Sony puts it)...I'd imagine whoever's behind it is prolly sweating at least considerably now that the FBI has been enlisted. Anyways, I don't know about others but at least for me, I've been happy with my PS3 (60 gig launch model) and Sony's been good to my gaming so...I hope this stuff gets settled soon (and has a satisfactory closure of sorts). ^_^

SaintessHeart · 2011-04-28, 04:41

I just need Sony's stock to slip a LITTLE WEE MORE so I can co-invest with a friend. With Sony releasing new tablets to battle Samsung and Apple, it is a good time to buy.

This PSN hack isn't a big deal unless you register your card. I always recommend to my friends who own PS3 to buy point cards instead, and I introduce connections to them (people living in US and Japan) to help buy and mail point cards across the world to Singapore if they registered for Japanese or US games (like a particular bishoujo-personified JRPG that caught the eye of so many of my friends....bunch of perverts

) online.

Though it is time Sony start hiring dedicated people to do their server instead of hiring pay-oriented graduates from the nearest tech university.

P.S I think we should form some sort of trade place for point cards if anyone registered for a PSN account overseas.

Jaden · 2011-04-28, 04:52

Somehow I don't think these hackers were aiming for identity theft, but just to pwn Sony. And if that's the case, I hope they don't get caught. I'd feel sorry for them -__-

Keroko · 2011-04-28, 05:16

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Originally Posted by Jaden

Somehow I don't think these hackers were aiming for identity theft, but just to pwn Sony. And if that's the case, I hope they don't get caught. I'd feel sorry for them -__-

I don't. The 'because I can' mentality is something that should not be encouraged. There is no excuse for breaking the rules (or in this case, the law) and 'because you can' is not one either. You break in, you pay the penalty.

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Originally Posted by SaintessHeart

Though it is time Sony start hiring dedicated people to do their server instead of hiring pay-oriented graduates from the nearest tech university.

This might actually be a big advantage. Download times for the PSN were always wonky on my PS3 (particularly system updates were a pain) if the quality of the stores and servers increases, then the downtime will have been a small price to pay for me.

demonix · 2011-04-28, 06:42

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Originally Posted by Xacual

The worst part of the situation is just that they waited almost a week to report the situation. That is absolutely unbelievable.

That is because they didn't know the extent of the hack until a few days ago after the company they brought in to investigate reported the fact that data had been taken (sony has also just reported that all the data that was taken was encrypted).

frubam · 2011-04-28, 07:13

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Originally Posted by Drake

Weather anything actually ever happened or was to happen as a result of someones stolen data is irrelevant now the fact that its happened at all is the real disaster/public relations nightmare for sony and if you look at there stock value you'll see its already had an impact.

I guess this would be an excellent time to invest in some Sony stock

.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2011-04-28, 07:16

I was thinking about buying a PSP purely for the FFVII PSN download.

I guess I can hold back for another year until this whole mess is sorted.

Bonta Kun · 2011-04-28, 07:31

Q&A #1 for PlayStation Network and Qriocity Services

Spoiler:

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Q: Are you working with law enforcement on this matter?
A: Yes, we are currently working with law enforcement on this matter as well as a recognized technology security firm to conduct a complete investigation. This malicious attack against our system and against our customers is a criminal act and we are proceeding aggressively to find those responsible.

Q: Was my personal data encrypted?
A: All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network. The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack.

Q: Was my credit card data taken?
A: While all credit card information stored in our systems is encrypted and there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system.

Q: What steps should I take at this point to help protect my personal data?
A: For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well. To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports.

Q: What if I don’t know which credit card I’ve got attached to my PlayStation Network account?
A: If you’ve added funds to your PlayStation Network wallet in the past, you should have received a confirmation email from “DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net” at the email address associated with your account. This email would have been sent to you immediately after you added the funds, and will contain the first 4 digits and last 4 digits of your credit card number. You can also check your previous credit card statements to determine which card was attached to your PlayStation Network or Qriocity accounts.

Q: When or how can I change my PlayStation Network password?
A: We are working on a new system software update that will require all users to change their password once PlayStation Network is restored. We will provide more details about the new update shortly.

Q: Have all PlayStation Network and Qriocity users been notified of the situation?
A: In addition to alerting the media and posting information about it on this blog, we have also been sending emails directly to all 77 million registered accounts. It takes a bit of time to send that many emails, and recognize that not every email will still be active, but this process has been underway since yesterday. At this time, the majority of emails have been sent and we anticipate that all registered accounts will have received notifications by April 28th. Consumers may also visit www.us.playstation.com/support and www.qriocity.com for notices regarding this issue. In addition, we have taken steps to disseminate information regarding this issue to media outlets so that consumers are informed.

Q: What steps is Sony taking to protect my personal data in the future?
A: We’ve taken several immediate steps to add protections for your personal data. First, we temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services and, second, we are enhancing security and strengthening our network infrastructure. Moving forward, we are initiating several measures that will significantly enhance all aspects of PlayStation Network’s security and your personal data, including moving our network infrastructure and data center to a new, more secure location, which is already underway. We will provide additional information on these measures shortly.

Q: Has Sony identified the party or parties responsible for the PlayStation Network hack and subsequent theft of personal information?
A: We are currently conducting a thorough investigation of the situation and are working closely with a recognized technology security firm and law enforcement in order to find those responsible for this criminal act no matter where in the world they might be located.

Q: When will the PlayStation Network and Qriocity be back online?
A: Our employees have been working day and night to restore operations as quickly as possible, and we expect to have some services up and running within a week from yesterday. However, we want to be very clear that we will only restore operations when we are confident that the network is secure.

Well I can rest easy anyway as I only have a expired card on my PSN

JagdPanther · 2011-04-28, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Bonta Kun

Q&A #1 for PlayStation Network and Qriocity Services

Well I can rest easy anyway as I only have a expired card on my PSN

Yeah, I'm in that club, too. I'm not too worried.

Kafriel · 2011-04-28, 09:51

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I don't. The 'because I can' mentality is something that should not be encouraged.

Not to play the devil's advocate, but I read that Sony started it by removing the ability to install Linux OS on PS3 or something along these lines. Just saying, haven't really looked into the matter though.

SilverSyko · 2011-04-28, 09:55

I don't really care unless someone starts charging my card, which hasn't happened yet.

And the chances of that happening are slim.

No sense in worrying over it.

2011-04-28, 02:40	Link #1
TurkeyPotPie fushigi ojisan Join Date: Jan 2011	The PSN data leak So what are your thoughts on the PSN data leak? Fortunately, I never used a credit card on PSN. After having some problems getting MS to stop my PSO subscription way back on the original Xbox, I never used a credit card with Live or PSN. Instead I used prepaid cards. However, the leak of other personal info is worrisome. I checked and I did at least use my real address, which is not a big deal, but I can't tell what other info I may have given PSN. I wonder how much this is going to cost Sony. It is amazing to see the way they've self-destructed this generation after the domination they had in the previous two.

2011-04-28, 02:47	Link #2
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	No big deal, aside from the personal info leak. Most of the bank actually got informed from Sony, and when people call them regarding the credit card in their PSN account, thing got resolved as fast as possible. __________________

2011-04-28, 03:30	Link #4
Xacual Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	The worst part of the situation is just that they waited almost a week to report the situation. That is absolutely unbelievable. __________________ I was influenced by a certain group overflowing with madness and started trying to write a story. Please give it a try. Crashed into Fantasy

2011-04-28, 03:31	Link #5
Drake dn ʎɐʍ sıɥʇ Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern Ireland	I highly doubt sony contacted the banks of all 70 million odd customers to inform them that their customers credit card details may have been stolen and the fact it took them a week to tell any of their customers that it had happened in the first place doesn't do them any favors. Weather anything actually ever happened or was to happen as a result of someones stolen data is irrelevant now the fact that its happened at all is the real disaster/public relations nightmare for sony and if you look at there stock value you'll see its already had an impact. Aside from a first class action lawsuit and the pending ICO investigation I'd say alot of fans will be left with a sour taste at the end of it all and weather or not any inadequacies are actually found in the security infrastructure of the PSN it wont reverse any damage to the companies image. So really it is a pretty big deal. Luckily for me I never used my credit card on the PSN although my PS3 is bust anyway so I don't particularly value my PSN account at the minute. __________________

2011-04-28, 04:41	Link #11
SaintessHeart NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~ Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 35	I just need Sony's stock to slip a LITTLE WEE MORE so I can co-invest with a friend. With Sony releasing new tablets to battle Samsung and Apple, it is a good time to buy. This PSN hack isn't a big deal unless you register your card. I always recommend to my friends who own PS3 to buy point cards instead, and I introduce connections to them (people living in US and Japan) to help buy and mail point cards across the world to Singapore if they registered for Japanese or US games (like a particular bishoujo-personified JRPG that caught the eye of so many of my friends....bunch of perverts ) online. Though it is time Sony start hiring dedicated people to do their server instead of hiring pay-oriented graduates from the nearest tech university. P.S I think we should form some sort of trade place for point cards if anyone registered for a PSN account overseas. __________________ When three puppygirls named after pastries are on top of each other, it is called Eclair a'la menthe et Biscotti aux fraises avec beaucoup de Ricotta sur le dessus. Most of all, you have to be disciplined and you have to save, even if you hate our current financial system. Because if you don't save, then you're guaranteed to end up with nothing.

2011-04-28, 03:25	Link #3
Sciel Etoilé Join Date: Dec 2007	Extremely disappointed in Sony. Yes they were hacked but to leak almost everything is laughable. Thankfully all my purchases were with cards that were already cancelled.

2011-04-28, 03:58	Link #6
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Just imagine what would happen if your leaked e-mails were sold to all the spammers in the world...really glad I don't use PSN! I pity all the people who lost their money and privacy, and I can only look at Sony to make it up to them...although I bet next month DLC will be flooding with packets as usual.

2011-04-28, 04:22	Link #9
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	shrug I don't own a credit card (and would never use it for online transactions anyway, for this very reason) so all they've got on me is... my name, address and e-mail. Big whoop. Hackers can get that information by hacking almost any site you register on, most of which are much easier to hack too. What hurts me more (and even then the term hurts is more weighty than it really is to me) is the fact that PSN is down. But meh, I have enough singleplayer games to pass the time.

2011-04-28, 04:52	Link #12
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Somehow I don't think these hackers were aiming for identity theft, but just to pwn Sony. And if that's the case, I hope they don't get caught. I'd feel sorry for them -__- __________________

2011-04-28, 07:16	Link #16
Vallen Chaos Valiant Logician and Romantic Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Within my mind Age: 43	I was thinking about buying a PSP purely for the FFVII PSN download. I guess I can hold back for another year until this whole mess is sorted. __________________

2011-04-28, 09:55	Link #20
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	I don't really care unless someone starts charging my card, which hasn't happened yet. And the chances of that happening are slim. No sense in worrying over it. __________________