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Old 2009-04-06, 17:01   Link #241
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I think they do play with furiten, just not "temporary furiten". So, if Saki had discarded a 5 circles before she wouldn't be able to draw either tile.

OR, it's possible that after Yuuki discarded her 5, that there was an entire go around before Nodoka discarded her red 5 which would clear the temporary furiten that wasn't shown in the anime.
Frankly they didn't make it clear.
It's probably the second one. If you look at the table, the order is Yuuki, Mako, Saki, then Nodoka. An entire cycle was played before Nodoka discarded the red 5.
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Old 2009-04-06, 19:54   Link #242
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It's probably the second one. If you look at the table, the order is Yuuki, Mako, Saki, then Nodoka. An entire cycle was played before Nodoka discarded the red 5.
Ah! Okay... Then that's what they meant by the "yamagoshi" red five (which was translated as "passed over red five" which I think is still close enough)... I guess a better phrase would have been "around the bend" or something.
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Old 2009-04-06, 20:48   Link #243
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@the subites:

I found it annoying that whoever subbed Crunchyroll's version decided to mix English terms with Japanese (using "All simples Mixed Triple Chow pinfu")


At around 6 minutes there also seems to be either

A: A translation error
B: A place that needs a note if they're aiming at people who have never played before

Saki's hand was NOT "mixed triple chow".
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Old 2009-04-06, 20:52   Link #244
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This kind of reminded me of yu-gi-oh. For instance, that mahjong slow motion lightning descent could be compared to slamming a card down (Which apparently takes 10 seconds for maximum holy crap effect.) and snickering afterwards. Both series take some kind of game and make it into some epic battle srzbzn with over the top visuals, sound and WHAT?!?!?! scenes. They even explain afterwards (or in this case before) what said main character did in strategy/tactics and how much in the realm of impossibility it is to pull something like that off. (Drawing the perfect card or in this case the right tile.) Saw some mahjong summoning creatures in the ED, too.

By the way, they're white.
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Old 2009-04-06, 21:28   Link #245
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@the subites:

I found it annoying that whoever subbed Crunchyroll's version decided to mix English terms with Japanese (using "All simples Mixed Triple Chow pinfu")


At around 6 minutes there also seems to be either

A: A translation error
B: A place that needs a note if they're aiming at people who have never played before

Saki's hand was NOT "mixed triple chow".
There was a translation note defining "mixed triple chow" at 6:15
that says "3 identical chows in 3 different suit.
Saki has the 2,3,4 of each suit.

Then again at 7:42 when the president says "All simples Mixed Triple Chow pinfu"
saki has the 6,7,8 of each suit. And there's no note for mixed triple chow because it was already defined.

I don't see any error in the subs.
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Old 2009-04-06, 21:35   Link #246
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There was a translation note defining "mixed triple chow" at 6:15
that says "3 identical chows in 3 different suit.
Saki has the 2,3,4 of each suit.

Then again at 7:42 when the president says "All simples Mixed Triple Chow pinfu"
saki has the 6,7,8 of each suit. And there's no note for mixed triple chow because it was already defined.

I don't see any error in the subs.
Saki's hand was 22234s234m23456p ron 1p. This is not sanshoku/Mixed Triple Chow.
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Old 2009-04-06, 21:38   Link #247
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Saki's hand was 22234s234m23456p ron 1p. This is not sanshoku/Mixed Triple Chow.
The line actually seems to have gotten goofed. He says "What are you doing throwing away your Mixed Triple Chow" (since she didn't Ron on the 7-dots/7-pin) (三色捨ててそれってどうなん!!)
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Old 2009-04-06, 21:39   Link #248
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I really need to learn how to play Mahjong.

Nevertheless, although I don't really get the mechanics of what was happening in the games, quite a fun first episode!
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Old 2009-04-06, 22:12   Link #249
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I really need to learn how to play Mahjong.

Nevertheless, although I don't really get the mechanics of what was happening in the games, quite a fun first episode!
Mahjong's pretty fun to play, imo. Then again, I was exposed to it (albeit Hong Kong Mahjong) at a young age.

If anyone is itching to play Japanese Mahjong online, and knows a bit of Japanese, I highly recommend Tenhou. You can play against three other people (or two, if you play the three-player game) or you can spectate other matches. There is no chombo and likewise there is no open riichi (it's like a riichi except you deliberately show your hand to everyone...iinm it is worth an additional han). But it is pretty fun (when you are winning of course).

This link explains in good detail how to sign up for a Tenhou account and how to navigate the website.
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Old 2009-04-06, 22:12   Link #250
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Actually, I find it will be easier for me if the sub keeps the Japanese term, thus I have been playing Japanese Mahjong up until now.
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Old 2009-04-06, 23:05   Link #251
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gonzo doesn't put subs on youtube anymore?
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Old 2009-04-06, 23:10   Link #252
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gonzo doesn't put subs on youtube anymore?
When did gonzo ever put subs on youtube?
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Old 2009-04-06, 23:16   Link #253
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gonzo doesn't put subs on youtube anymore?
Gonzo isn't in charge of Saki. TV Tokyo is. Gonzo stopped doing youtube this season.

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When did gonzo ever put subs on youtube?
All of the series that Gonzo streamed between the two Druagas (Druaga x2, Strike Witches, Blassreiter, Linebarrels) were put on Youtube simultaneously or the day after.
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Old 2009-04-06, 23:31   Link #254
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I liked the mahjong theme. Always thought that mahjong is pretty interesting. The problem is i suck at it. I can't remember the more complex winning combinations as well as scoring calculations.
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Old 2009-04-07, 03:50   Link #255
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any way it is kinda overwhelming for the 1st episode

i mean the amount of information i gathered is enough to make a child cry for weeks.though thanks for the moe blobness os some character (and a future yuri candidate) i can bear with it
but guys is it me or is the giving me that "Hikaru no go" vibe
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Old 2009-04-07, 03:53   Link #256
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Wow i love 1st episode and i start love Nodoka...

Too bad i cant claim Nodoka or my Yui will cry lol...
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Old 2009-04-07, 05:54   Link #257
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This is gonna be interesting... it's Hikaru no Go with Yuri undertones... and yup going to stick with the Chinese subs to really understand the scoring part.
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Old 2009-04-07, 05:59   Link #258
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This is gonna be interesting... it's Hikaru no Go with Yuri undertones... and yup going to stick with the Chinese subs to really understand the scoring part.
In the case of this particular show the chinese subs are probably the most appropriate and easiest to read. Since all the mahjong terms are originally chinese anyway (well, almost all of them).
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Old 2009-04-07, 06:47   Link #259
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This is gonna be interesting... it's Hikaru no Go with Yuri undertones... and yup going to stick with the Chinese subs to really understand the scoring part.
Stupid Gonzo keeps putting "yuri undertones" everywhere. That destroyed half the enjoyment I had from the manga.
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Old 2009-04-07, 06:50   Link #260
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Like you can't see it in the manga.
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