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Join Date: Nov 2003
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ScriptClub Reborn
For those of you who remember www.scriptclub.org you know how great of a loss it was when that database went down. I have for the past year been attempting to create a new version of this resource for the same uses that the original was for. This project will remain true to the original system of scriptclub with addition security features to further reduce the use of these scripts by DVD rippers, bootleggers, and other fansub groups misusing other peoples work for their own personal gains.
If you were a script club member in the past and still have scripts form scriptclub, I request that you please help the new one by supplying as many of these scripts to the project as possible. I have tried to contact the original scriptclub owners on many occasions, but they are MIA. If you have contact with them, that would also be of great help. Their input would be of priceless value in the development of a new version. On another note, we are going to begin beta testing soon. Beta testing will be quite exclusive. We will only be accepting group leaders, of well established groups, who have a highly trusted reputation in the community for "ethical" behavior. This means they have never been accused of script theft, ftp/site hacking, group attacking. Thanks to the following people. "TheFluff" for the work he is doing with Aegisub atm which entails the importing of very old subtitle formats so they may be converted to .ssa/.ass. "MasterCJ" repository development team "Kou" repository development team And to the current beta testers and persons who have donated scripts already. |
2009-05-15, 04:34 | Link #2 | |
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Location: Netherlands
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2009-05-15, 06:02 | Link #3 |
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The scripts repository will be nothing more than SVN or GITS? Then, it's just installing and configuring... I don't see the need for repository developers... I can see a necessity to develop front-end interfaces, which most SITES FAIL miserably, for the users....
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2009-05-15, 06:49 | Link #4 |
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I would like to ask this as well.
Also, I assume we're talking about translated episode scripts here or something, as it didn't really come clear at all in the post itself. So what is the purpose of this site? How will it work? How will it help its community? Surely you aren't just going to completely ignore people who haven't heard of the thing before and go "oldsubbers practicing ethical lawbreaking -only" with this club of yours.
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2009-05-15, 07:07 | Link #6 | |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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So why the security features if you want to be like the scriptclub where everyone could freely download the scripts? DVDRippers can easily OCR the scripts. Using OCR is one of the fundamental things for a dvdripper. And why do you make the scripts public in the first place if you don't want other to use them? If credit-whoring is the concern of the uploaders, I can assure you that people who re-encode stuff and upload it on tokyotosho or even DVD groups credit the fansub groups who initially translated the episodes accordingly. Not to mention, many groups use softsubs nowadays so what's the point of these anti-theft measures? Demuxing the subs is pretty much idiot proof. And if groups were so concerned about their scripts, they wouldn't softsub it in the first place. To summarize it: the idea is very good but the anti-theft bullshit is plain stupid. Also what's this repository development crap? Just use a simple php script that's freely available that will do the stuff. And don't even think about SVN. That's retarded. Just re-create the old simple system and everyone girl will offer you her virginity. |
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2009-05-15, 08:24 | Link #7 | ||
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2009-05-15, 08:51 | Link #8 | |
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And it's not about making it easier or harder for people who might eventually rip them. Just make them freely available and everyone is happy. What I'm trashing is that elitist faggotry aspect which is pretty superfluous considering this is supposed to be a service for all people who just want the scripts. So this is supposed to be (pseudo)scriptclub 2009 fansub circle-jerk edition or what? |
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2009-05-15, 09:00 | Link #9 | |
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2009-05-15, 09:12 | Link #10 | |
awarpsharp is good
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First you said you will make the grabber anonymous and then you talk about tracking the people. What? And if you post your scripts to the public, you can be pretty sure it'll be hard to prevent others to use them. So it's basically either everyone can use it or just the elitist buddys. But that would defeat the purpose. If groups decide to stop sharing their scripts upon licensing then you can always manually disable that upon request. Though don't forget, once the scripts are made public it's pretty hard to prevent them being reposted somewhere else. That brings me back to my question: Why make it so complicated? Just keep the spirit of the original site and everyone is happy. |
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2009-05-15, 10:15 | Link #11 | |
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Here's what would be ACTUALLY useful: write a script that parses tokyotosho's torrent rss feed and/or anidb's new releases rss feed, downloads anything that is likely to be softsubbed, mkvextracts the subtitles and posts to a database; for older or hardsubbed (gay) stuff let people contribute scripts manually. THAT would be an incredible resource. This is doomed to irrelevancy from the start.
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2009-05-15, 10:20 | Link #12 | |
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Anyways today are there groups that would put out a script but not make a release? I know scriptclub was useful _then_, but would it be of use _now_? Today if I want to make a showing for my club, I just get the release and hook up the laptop or computer to the VGA port of the TV. I could see it being a bit of a general resource, for someone who want to learn, but nothing more... honestly I think it would just end up as a target for achivalists or collectors who join sites like that, download everything, store it for future posterity, and then move on... I think if you want to make it as a learner or a historical site, or a tutorial, you have to archive everything, not just the .ssa or but also the avisynth scripts, raws, etc. that went into a given release being created. Lots of people want perfect timing today so having a script without a given raw... even changing from one raw to another can quite often screw things up. Just my thoughts... if you want to do it and there's groups willing to participate... just don't think it (can) or (will) be something that it can't... |
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2009-05-15, 10:56 | Link #13 | |
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2009-05-15, 13:32 | Link #17 | |
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And the older scripts are sometimes used to redo a favorite old show. Some shows were never picked up by pro companies and will never see the light of digital. I remember utilizing the old Script Club to download scripts to use with my LDs. Now that some of the old shows are now available on DVD some folks want to sub them. In the olden days script sharing actually happened. We uploaded many of ours way back then. Anyway, can't see why everyone is freaking out over the idea. Instead of sniping offer suggestions on how to make it happen. But this is the internet.(sigh)
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2009-05-15, 15:43 | Link #19 |
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So lets assume Mr. X downloads a script and distributes it. How do you know it wasn't Mr. Y or Mr. Z who downloaded the script too? Hide a registry number in the timing data? And assuming you ban Mr. X, how do you prevent him from register again via another proxy?
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2009-05-15, 16:43 | Link #20 | |
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