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Ice Block · 2010-03-21, 08:02

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Originally Posted by Wrath88

Lolz, a flipped coin followed the car's vector until Biribiri could do her railgun. Well, the rest of it was satisfactory enough.

This is actually correct. The coin is also moving with the car. It is at rest relative to Misaka (and the car), so when you throw it directly upward it should fall back to where it was originally thrown from. Basically, the coin is also moving forward at the same speed as the car, so its trajectory as seen from an observer on the road/ground would be a parabola.

Satehi · 2010-03-21, 08:09

But wouldn't the air resistance slow down the coin a lot more then it would slow down Misaka? Because Misaka is attached to the car via magnetism and therefore her speed is always the same as the car, but the coin moving at the speed of the car is not attached and would therefore lose it's speed right?

ykf566 · 2010-03-21, 08:18

They seem to hype this whole railgun thing. Misaka only uses coins which i assume is softer than a bullet and travels at 1000m/s, around the same speed as a bullet from an assault rifle. Why she even bothered dodging it or Misaka thinking it could destroyed/damage that mecha is beyond me. Seriously it cant do more than leave a dent.

Jeffry2009 · 2010-03-21, 09:22

At last after I saw the final episode, that Psycho Evil Telestina has finally BURNED IN HELL!!

Ice Block · 2010-03-21, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Satehi

But wouldn't the air resistance slow down the coin a lot more then it would slow down Misaka? Because Misaka is attached to the car via magnetism and therefore her speed is always the same as the car, but the coin moving at the speed of the car is not attached and would therefore lose it's speed right?

Effect of drag/air resistance on the coin should be minimal (though I don't have numbers). How it is attached to the car doesn't matter.

Jeffry2009 · 2010-03-21, 09:43

She's totally a Douchebag & deserved to be sent back to hell and I totally Hate her, literally.

Spoiler for Last message to that Bitch telesty-whatever.:

Enough said.

Wrath88 · 2010-03-21, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Ice Block

This is actually correct. The coin is also moving with the car. It is at rest relative to Misaka (and the car), so when you throw it directly upward it should fall back to where it was originally thrown from. Basically, the coin is also moving forward at the same speed as the car, so its trajectory as seen from an observer on the road/ground would be a parabola.

Well, in that case, this shows how much skill Kiyama and Mikoto have.
Kiyama for maintaining that speed all the way.
Mikoto for flipping a coin perfectly vertical.

Wouldn't a slight error in either cause the coin to go off track?

Haak · 2010-03-21, 09:54

Can't we all just accept that Misaka's Railgun follows the Rule of Cool and not the Laws of Physics?

Miraluka · 2010-03-21, 09:58

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Huh?

If the thing is about Kakine, maybe just changing the nature of the sound of his surroundings is enough.

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Originally Posted by Haak

Can't we all just accept that Misaka's Railgun follows the Rule of Cool and not the Laws of Physics?

That was stated in Index episode 1

So I don't find any problem with that.

Chrono Helix · 2010-03-21, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Boduar

Lol first thing I thought when I saw Telestinas purple suit was LOL its Cornelia's Knightmare frame. Then the lance opened into a pewpew machine and the image was broken.

Good episode, good series.

I was thinking of Valkyria when she began charging her railgun... Not to mention she voices Selvaria too.

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Lol @ "Who says I can only use coins for Railgun?"

I was expecting her to fire Kuroko then lol.

MeisterBabylon · 2010-03-21, 10:31

If you are sweating buckets over the car, wait till you try to explain how did TWO RAILGUN SLUGS connecting head-on turn into a KAMEHAMEHAAA competition rather than an outright explosion...

Which does prove that Misaka's "Railgun" is no railgun, but some kind of plasma lance, unless the warhead used does not disintegrate easily, like that robo-arm.

babohtea · 2010-03-21, 11:38

No, the coin shot perfectly up will not fall back down perfectly, you'd have to shoot it a slight angle to make up for decreased momentum to air resistance ratio compared to the car.

Sol Falling · 2010-03-21, 13:11

Yeah, I'm gonna miss this. Moar cute 'sisterly'

bonds between Kuroko and Misaka please. This episode was pretty great.

Trogdor Jube · 2010-03-21, 15:41

The poor catgirls.

Satehi · 2010-03-21, 16:05

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Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

If you are sweating buckets over the car, wait till you try to explain how did TWO RAILGUN SLUGS connecting head-on turn into a KAMEHAMEHAAA competition rather than an outright explosion...

Which does prove that Misaka's "Railgun" is no railgun, but some kind of plasma lance, unless the warhead used does not disintegrate easily, like that robo-arm.

Well, two projectiles of any kind will not produce an explosion if they hit eachother, lest they be an explosive. Any explosions produced by two fast objects hitting eachother is probably more a result of the Rule Of Cool and less of actual physics.

A question about Misaka's Railgun, a conventional railgun is generally accelerating a conductive projectile along two metal rails, or rather, it's muzzle. Railguns therefore are favored since they allow for much higher muzzle velocities, since the railgun is acceleration all until it leaves the muzzle, whereas Misaka's simply flies. Is she manipulating the magnetic fields all along the coins path to constantly accelerate it like she can do with the iron-sand, or is it just a burst of some kind?

zato_1one · 2010-03-21, 18:23

I hope that someday all villains can do the explanation and operation at the same time. She could easily win by just pushing little enter button in front of her. Of all things, she decided to stop and played with Misaka instead when Misaksa told her to stop. Hmm... But her over expression was really annoying. It was good that she finally shut her mouth.

By the way, can Accel reflect Kuroko's ability?

Marcus H. · 2010-03-21, 18:55

He can't, but he can redirect her arm instead. :P

zato_1one · 2010-03-21, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

He can't, but he can redirect her arm instead. :P

What do you mean? If he want to do that he still need to touch her, right?

Satehi · 2010-03-21, 19:26

I think it's been stated that Kuroko's teleport does has a vector, as she is traveling through the 11th dimension.

Marcus H. · 2010-03-21, 19:27

Kuroko only needs to touch him, not necessarily the other way around.

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2010-03-21, 08:09	Link #102
Satehi Member Join Date: Mar 2010	But wouldn't the air resistance slow down the coin a lot more then it would slow down Misaka? Because Misaka is attached to the car via magnetism and therefore her speed is always the same as the car, but the coin moving at the speed of the car is not attached and would therefore lose it's speed right?

2010-03-21, 08:18	Link #103
ykf566 Member Join Date: Nov 2009	They seem to hype this whole railgun thing. Misaka only uses coins which i assume is softer than a bullet and travels at 1000m/s, around the same speed as a bullet from an assault rifle. Why she even bothered dodging it or Misaka thinking it could destroyed/damage that mecha is beyond me. Seriously it cant do more than leave a dent.

2010-03-21, 09:22	Link #104
Jeffry2009 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Age: 37	At last after I saw the final episode, that Psycho Evil Telestina has finally BURNED IN HELL!!

2010-03-21, 11:38	Link #112
babohtea Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	No, the coin shot perfectly up will not fall back down perfectly, you'd have to shoot it a slight angle to make up for decreased momentum to air resistance ratio compared to the car.

2010-03-21, 13:11	Link #113
Sol Falling Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 35	Yeah, I'm gonna miss this. Moar cute 'sisterly' bonds between Kuroko and Misaka please. This episode was pretty great.

2010-03-21, 18:23	Link #116
zato_1one Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	I hope that someday all villains can do the explanation and operation at the same time. She could easily win by just pushing little enter button in front of her. Of all things, she decided to stop and played with Misaka instead when Misaksa told her to stop. Hmm... But her over expression was really annoying. It was good that she finally shut her mouth. By the way, can Accel reflect Kuroko's ability? __________________

2010-03-21, 18:55	Link #117
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2010-03-21, 19:26	Link #119
Satehi Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I think it's been stated that Kuroko's teleport does has a vector, as she is traveling through the 11th dimension.

2010-03-21, 19:27	Link #120
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