Da Capo Second Season

[AvatarST]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Spoiler:

Hahaha... yeah, I know... You've been nothing if not consistent in your applied Nemu hatred, in this thread and beyond.

And yeah, of course the problem with that picture is that there's no Aisia, which could mean anything.

Spoiler:

...oh, you're right, I just noticed. Mmm...well, let's hope it just means she went back to Europe before that, or something. Aisha is one silly girl, but I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to her.

EDIT: Ehhh...I just got a really few crazy ideas, but I won't say them because they're so crazy that I'd embarass myself once the episode airs and they're not even close. I'm heading out now anyway, I'll be back to comment on the ending once I watch. Later.

[Omniscient]

Final Episode Screencaps

Spoiler:

I didn't see the marriage thing coming, but I was pleasently surprised by it. Overall, pretty happy with the ending, even with the first few parts being a bit predictable.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

And, Omni, as for the spoiler, all I can say is...

Spoiler:

Yup... Makes perfect sense to me, and that's regardless of fanboyism (I'm looking squarely at you, BTW, AvatarST. ).

I don't understand why you're directing that comment at me...

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Omniscient

I don't understand why you're directing that comment at me...

Final Edit: Because I'm an idiot. Sorry everyone... I just woke up...

[hi no ken Jebus]

Ahhhhh this was eh

Spoiler for ep 26 final:

Well to say the begining was predictable is an understatement. I was rolling on the floor while Nemu's letter was being read it just seemed so forced. The marriage thing was out of left field but after seeing Aisia disappear I could have careless if they were together or not. In the end she turned into a better magician and had some yuri moments with Sakura and having no more Suginami is what truly makes me sad after watching the end. Oh well couldn't ask for more. As for the series on a whole maybe I'm the only one who thinks this could have been done in 13 eps and would have had the same effect. Well not much else to say I'm waiting for the torrent of kotori fiends to come and shout bullshit or something.



Mangatron in the end we won

[nite0]

Ending wasn't bad but it definitely could have been done in even less than 13 episodes, never mind 26.

[Village Idiot]

They dragged it out way too much.

Could have and should have been done in 13 eps.

[Searcher]

From relentlessflame:

There is a way to be happy even if your romantic dreams can't come true

If this is the basis what you think that is the message of this season, then i am a bit confussed?
Doesn't this apply to every harem serie where the losing girls have to move on and get further with their lives. Just like in shuffle, where my girl (Nerine) has moved on with her live.

Did kotori really move on, all i could see from the screenshot is that she was with her friends, it's just like last season.

And every girl moved on in season1, why make a second season where we only get to see kotori suffer and not the other girls. For instance tamaki, she would have been a perfect person, because of her story, for more drama.

It's like having a second season of KGNE and seeing haruka suffer again and lose again. I think the producers would have to go underground if they did that.

I have some other points that i think that are bad, but the serie is over and i will leave it at that.

Ps. I will now on 23 dec 2005 predict the winner of da capo II the anime!!

I read somewhere that one of the girls said "i hope my brother doesn't think of me that way" (or something like that). It looks like the nemu gene doesn't fall far from the tree.
So she will win, so 50 years later we will have a rerun of da capo I

[AvatarST]

Eh, Otome and Yume's personalities don't seem to be anything like Nemu's.

Anyway I'll comment on the episode when I actually watch it later, but I can say that DCSS was a good show, even if I didn't -really- enjoy it.

[mangatron]

Now I bet some of you are wondering what I have to say....most notably you jebus, by the way welcome back jebus, thought the forum downtime made you lax here

Spoiler for episode26:

YEEEEAAAAARRRRR I'M A NOSEBLEEEDER, NOT A ROMANCE SUCKER

When Aisha met Juni out there that night, I expected him to look her in the eye and say "Kisama..." and give Aisha a mighty toss halfway around the globe....

Over at school when Kudo obviously said the wrong thing at the wrong time, I expected Juni to eye him/her and say "Kisama..." and give Kudo a one way ticket through the school window

When Nemu was in the infirmary, I expected Nemu to say "What the....I'm supposed to be in class, sitting beside Juniisan, staring at each other, blushing at each other, etc..."

When Nemu ran into Kotori at the bulding entrance, I expected her to go berserk and say "Kisama..." and grab Kotori by the voicebox Kaede style

When Juni was reading the letter, I seriously thought it was gonna rain...I mean, it happened in other anime

When Nemu fell to the ground, I seriously thought she was gonna cough up the petals again...

ok, so....return of the Aisha pushing the tree and who'd a thought...all she had to do was think right and just place her hand on the tree, forming her nice, yellow mahou circle....You know, I did like Aisha's moans of ecstasy while pushing the tree....so,....Aisha gone oh no, no wait, I got a confession to make ya'll,....ok Aisha aint gone,....she's with me I'm taking goood care of her you guys, don worry

Hey look, at the wedding, Nemu and Juni had their first newly-wed disagreement ....ok, so somethings wrong you guys.....some cloaked figure crashe's the wedding and grabs the bouquet, and splits it up Rizon.net style But, Juni had to make things worse asking where this new cloaked figure is going, and that figure....YEEEAAARR A AISHA CLONE!!!!! I HAVE THE REAL ONE, I KNOW I DO! i ....HAD THE REAL AISHA SINCE EPISODE 1 ....NO, SINCE DCSS WAS IN THE WORKS.....NO....BEFORE THE DC CREATOR EVEN THOUGHT OF HER

In the end...hmm, you know, I saw a mini Kotori. How long did it take for that baby to grow hair? Implants I tell you, implants!!

YEEEAARR I WANT TO NOSEBLEEEDOOOO....oh wait....wait, NEMU ANGRY AND BLUSHING AT THE SAME TIME OMG NOSEBLEEEDOOOOO YEEEARRR GOOD TO BE A DC, NEMU SUPPORTING FAN

In the end, Suginami hath not revealed his true colors, Mako didn't hit him...hey, mind you all, I knew that girl in the ed was Nemu, looking at the album with Juni. So,....I'm cool

rofl jebus, I always win lol...

Next ep preview...no wait, there isn't any more lol....oh, oh I get it....Sakura is supposed to return for season 3, this time fulfill her boing boing promise

Aw come on, it doesn't have to be a series, just a 3 part OAV

Now excuse me, I have a date with Nanoha

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Searcher

If this is the basis what you think that is the message of this season, then i am a bit confussed?

Of course you're a bit confused, because you cut off the most important half of the sentence... Context is everything...

Originally Posted by me

There is a way to be happy even if your romantic dreams can't come true, but wishing things would change or begrudging your fate isn't the answer.

This anime was about the second half of that sentence, not the first. The first can only happen if the second doesn't, which is exactly why the other girls couldn't move on until now.

Edit: As for the "this could have been done in 13 episodes" argument, I'll vote no, but I don't think I'm going to try to explain why I think that here. Or more like, I think I've already explained it too many times already. If you sum up the whole show by the final episode's credits, then I really believe you've missed the point of the show completely. But oh well...

[AvatarST]

There is a way to be happy even if your romantic dreams can't come true

There is? Well, maybe if you never fall in love, but what are the odds of that?

From DCII we can tell that at least for a few girls they did come true though, after all.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by AvatarST

There is? Well, maybe if you never fall in love, but what are the odds of that?

Oh come now. In real life, you get over your lost chances and find new ways to be happy, but you can't do that so long as you stay stuck tied to the past, which is exactly what Aisia was doing. I mean, the alternative is being stuck in the past and being depressed all your life, but thankfully that's not the way it is for most people. There is a way to be happy, and that's moving on and finding new happiness. At least, in my opinion... but then again, I'm an optimist. And again, before I get misquoted again, this was the implied message of the show, but not what the plot itself demonstrated directly.

[Searcher]

But not for kotori it seems, i read somewhere that there is no granddaughter of kotori in da capo II. only a adopted one.

Would like to know what happend to kotori?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Searcher

But not for kotori it seems, i read somewhere that there is no granddaughter of kotori in da capo II. only a adopted one.

Would like to know what happend to kotori?

Save something for the sequel!

In all seriousness, I do expect that D.C. II will have to fill in some of the "gaps" - even though they're jumping to the grandchildrens' generation, obviously the connection will still be there. Other ways this could be filled in would be through the S.G. manga and novel/manga side-stories. I assume there will have to be some sort of a "canon" answer for what happened to all of the girls post-D.C.S.S., because you can't really write a show set in the future (featuring the descendants) without it.

[nite0]

Has a D.C. II anime even been confirmed?

[AvatarST]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Oh come now. In real life, you get over your lost chances and find new ways to be happy, but you can't do that so long as you stay stuck tied to the past, which is exactly what Aisia was doing. I mean, the alternative is being stuck in the past and being depressed all your life, but thankfully that's not the way it is for most people. There is a way to be happy, and that's moving on and finding new happiness. At least, in my opinion... but then again, I'm an optimist. And again, before I get misquoted again, this was the implied message of the show, but not what the plot itself demonstrated directly.

I agree. What I'm saying is that I don't think it's possible to be truly happy forever without love. Of course you can get over someone you loved in the past and find the right person in someone else, but not ever being loved and being happy...well, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's certainly hard.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by AvatarST

I agree. What I'm saying is that I don't think it's possible to be truly happy forever without love. Of course you can get over someone you loved in the past and find the right person in someone else, but not ever being loved and being happy...well, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's certainly hard.

Ah. Well, that is very true. Perhaps putting "dreams" in plural might have implied that I was saying "You can still be happy, even if your entire life is a romantic failure", and yeah... that'd be sort of tough. That being said, I don't think they're trying to imply that in this show either, thankfully.

Originally Posted by nite0

Has a D.C. II anime even been confirmed?

Not yet (as far as I know), but it's all but assured. The game is coming out in a few months, so it's just a matter of time for the anime, if you ask me. Perhaps 2007?

[AvatarST]

I know, I just wanted to clear up that misunderstanding. Blame it on me though, not you - remember that my English sucks. And yeah, I agree that they're not trying to imply that. Especially because of DCII and how the girls left descendence, and because the NemuxJyunichi couple solidified early enough.

I've already watched the final episode and it was good, appropiate closure for DCSS. I'll do an overall analysis later...when I feel like writing. I'm kinda lazy now. But yeah, this turned out to be a good show after all. I didn't like some things about it, and I'd have liked it if some things had been done differently, but like I said before, that's more my opinion rather than the actual quality of DCSS, which I think, is very good.

EDIT: Nope, DCII hasn't been announced, but the DC franchise is pretty damn big and I'd expect it to be animated eventually too, especially if DCII is successful (which most definitely it'll be, because it'll probably be a good game and it has a good reputation from the earlier ones)

[Counter Arts]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

If I were to guess, I'd probably say ISFP or INFP - I sort of border between the two myself, though leaning towards N. Good post, once again.

Yeah... I'm guessing INFP too. Lotsa INFPs have problems with relationships. I can probably deduce a lot of things just saying she's INFP.

And for some reason I feel that I might not like the Shirikawa girl in DC II.

An interesting guess for DC II. We are just in the grandchildren's generation. We learn of what happened of each of them as we go through their grandchildren's story.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Counter Arts

Yeah... I'm guessing INFP too. Lotsa INFPs have problems with relationships. I can probably deduce a lot of things just saying she's INFP.

Heh... yeah, I should know. In my case, the girl's long-since married, and I truly have gotten over it... But, it took a while. And, I never stood a chance, just like Kotori, no matter how much I wanted it to be. So when I say that I could identify with what Kotori was going through, I wasn't joking. (The kicker, though, is that I was asked to film the wedding and produce the wedding video. That was a bit of a test... or something... ) And yet, I still was happy for the ending we got in D.C.S.S., because love deserves to triumph - INFPs will always be idealists, even if it hurts them (or characters they could see as proxies)...