Claymore Chapter 110

[Solace]

Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 110.

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[Ryus]

Moving spoiler to this thread... Thanks Solace for the thread and thanks Weils for finding and translating the spoiler for us and finally thank you Tom Bombadil for your comments/corrections on the translation

Originally Posted by Weils

Spoilers for next chapter. No way of confirming if it's real but seems plausible. Anyone want to have a go with the translation?

Spoiler for Chapter 110 spoilers:

最新号読んだ、ミリアは生きていたがスレの誰も予想は外れ

ミリアを救ったのはオードリー、レイチェルではなく
組織を離脱したかつての担当黒服エルミタ(離反の理由は不明)
そのまま、ミリア同様にかつて担当していたガラテアのいるラボナへ
結果ミリアとデネヴーズとはすれ違いに

ガラテアの｢どいうつもりだ？｣の問いにエルミタは答えず
組織と妖魔・覚醒者の関係をネタバレする
さらに竜族以外の第４勢力の存在をほのめかす

ガラテア、クラリスのビックリ顔で以下次号


ディートリヒは義理の無いガラテアのラボナ潜伏は
しっかり組織に報告してたんだな
あと黒服にもユマに気絶させられるヤツもいれば超強いのもいるのねｗ
デネヴーズ組織ラキ出番なし

でも第４勢力は心配だ…
八木ちゃんさらに広げる気か？畳めなくなるぞ…

Miria is still alive. She is saved by Audrey, not Rachel.

Ermita has left the Organization (reason for leaving is unknown) and is headed for Rabona where Galatea has taken over leadership in Miria's absence.

Not sure what it says here, but the result is Miria and Deneve's group pass each other.

Ermita does not answer Galatea's question of "What are they planning?" in regards to the relationship between the Org and ABs+Yomas. However, he implies the existence of a 4th faction besides the dragonkin. (1st: Org, 2nd: ABs+Yomas, 3rd: dragonkin, 4th: ????) Chapter ends with Galatea and Clarice's surprised faces.

The last two paragraphs seem to be still part of the same chapter (or speculation of next chapter?). Wish I knew more Japanese. Dietrich, no longer having a firm obligation to the Org, does not report on Rabona's concealment of Galatea. Yuma knocks out some MIBs(?). Deneve's group does not encounter Raki.

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Great post again. Since Weils had the true spoiler for all of the last few chapters, I have great confidence on this one as well. I am just going to add a bit more details. I should warn against taking everything a hundred percent, since it involved quite some dictionary usage and filling the gaps by guessing.

Spoiler for some additions to Weils's translation:

組織を離脱したかつての担当黒服エルミタ(離反の理由は不明)

Having break away from the organization (The reason for his disaffection is unclear), the MiB and former leader Ermita ...headed toward Robona...

t/l: Just to emphasize that he is not only leaving the organization in a physical sense, but also quits/disaffects from it.

ガラテアの｢どいうつもりだ？｣の問いにエルミタは答えず
組織と妖魔・覚醒者の関係をネタバレする
さらに竜族以外の第４勢力の存在をほのめかす

Ermita does not answer Galatea's question of "What are they planning?" , instead, he reveals the relationship between the Org and ABs+Yomas, and further hints the existence of a 4th faction besides the dragonkin.

t/l: As Weils mentioned, the following part came after the "Next chapter", so they are not officially part of the spoiler, rather some comments of the spoiler-poster.
ディートリヒは義理の無いガラテアのラボナ潜伏は
しっかり組織に報告してたんだな

It seems that Dietrich has reported Galatea's hiding in Robona back to the organization since she has no obligation to the latter.

あと黒服にもユマに気絶させられるヤツもいれば超強いのもいるのねｗ

T/L: I'd appreciate if some one translate this sentence.

デネヴーズ組織ラキ出番なし

There was no scene of Deneve's group, the organization, Raki.

[elyK]

Miria better not be alive.

[Newhope]

She's alive I'd bet money on it.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by elyK

Miria better not be alive.

Bleep you!

Viva la Miria!

[elyK]

Hey, it was her fault.

[hamstar]

Originally Posted by elyK

Hey, it was her fault.

I just take it as Yagi making Miria momentarily stupid.

Now I wonder if the org has any other trump cards because at the moment they don't stand a chance.

[elyK]

Originally Posted by hamstar

I just take it as Yagi making Miria momentarily stupid.

Now I wonder if the org has any other trump cards because at the moment they don't stand a chance.

Setting IQ's aside, it would be awfully hard to come back from the slice and dice she appeared to receive but you never know. Going off of past history it wouldn't be crazy for someone to say that the organization does have something up their sleeve.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by elyK

Setting IQ's aside, it would be awfully hard to come back from the slice and dice she appeared to receive but you never know. Going off of past history it wouldn't be crazy for someone to say that the organization does have something up their sleeve.

Speaking of sleeves... lets not forget the other warrior to stay alive after seemingly being cut in half. Irene/Ilena also was gravely injured from a momentary lapse in sanity but survived attacking an Awakened Priscilla head on all cause she likely though Clare was about to get eaten, in the end all she lost an arm but survived the lapse in sanity. So Miria surviving this isn't out of the question... as much as the final page of chapter 107 made it seem she was KIA. (note I'm not saying she is alive and the spoiler is correct, just that it could be case)

Recall the injury Irene got... it appeared Priscilla's sword went clean through Irene. Yet later she was clearly still alive so this wasn't the case as much as the final panel hinted that it was.

[elyK]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Speaking of sleeves... lets not forget the other warrior to stay alive after seemingly being cut in half. Irene/Ilena also was gravely injured from a momentary lapse in sanity but survived attacking an Awakened Priscilla head on all cause she likely though Clare was about to get eaten, in the end all she lost an arm but survived the lapse in sanity. So Miria surviving this isn't out of the question... as much as the final page of chapter 107 made it seem she was KIA. (note I'm not saying she is alive and the spoiler is correct, just that it could be case)

True, which is why I decided to throw in the "but you never know". All in all, the whole Miria situation was a bit of a head scratcher on a few levels. This is the first time in a while that I have posted or read anything from here but I am sure it has been discussed to death and I wouldn't want to fuel that fire again. In my quick opinion I would way that the best thing is for her to in fact be dead unless Yagi can really come up with something good to make it all work.

[hamstar]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Speaking of sleeves... lets not forget the other warrior to stay alive after seemingly being cut in half. Irene/Ilena also was gravely injured from a momentary lapse in sanity but survived attacking an Awakened Priscilla head on all cause she likely though Clare was about to get eaten, in the end all she lost an arm but survived the lapse in sanity. So Miria surviving this isn't out of the question... as much as the final page of chapter 107 made it seem she was KIA. (note I'm not saying she is alive and the spoiler is correct, just that it could be case)

Recall the injury Irene got... it appeared Priscilla's sword went clean through Irene. Yet later she was clearly still alive so this wasn't the case as much as the final panel hinted that it was.

Doesn't look like she was cut in half .

I think the worst Claymore injury to date was a tie between Ophelia getting her neck twisted and Deneve getting sliced down her right shoulder by Isley.

[Falcor]

Let's not forget the general rule of thumb: never assume somebody is dead until you've seen the body. Until Yagi reveals otherwise, for all we know, Miria could still be alive. The same could be said for Ilena, although in that case, Clare's reaction after Rafael confronts Ilena doesn't leave much wiggle room.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by elyK

True, which is why I decided to throw in the "but you never know". All in all, the whole Miria situation was a bit of a head scratcher on a few levels. This is the first time in a while that I have posted or read anything from here but I am sure it has been discussed to death and I wouldn't want to fuel that fire again. In my quick opinion I would way that the best thing is for her to in fact be dead unless Yagi can really come up with something good to make it all work.

While it has been discussed quite a lot... a new a spoiler is a great time to talk about it again, so fire away with you're thoughts on the matter. Hell, it's the last chance to say you're thoughts before Yagi reveals what happened and overrules us all.

One of the best reasons I've heard of while she'll live is it's Yagi's way to get her to step down as leader and have Clare at a later time become the new leader. After all it's her story. Her death isn't necessary for Yagi to do this just her being shown to be unfit to lead is, and her strength may later be really needed if the mainland is about to get involved.

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by hamstar

Doesn't look like she was cut in half .

I think the worst Claymore injury to date was a tie between Ophelia getting her neck twisted and Deneve getting sliced down her right shoulder by Isley.

Well, we'll agree to disagree on what it looks like.

As to the worse injury a Claymore got (and didn't die right way from) I was thinking these two where the winners...

Spoiler for size:

I looks like, to me anyways that, heart has been removed...

or...

Spoiler for size:

While she's been healed in this pic you can better see the extent of her injuries in it than when she was injured...

[elyK]

Originally Posted by Ryus

While it has been discussed quite a lot... a new a spoiler is a great time to talk about it again, so fire away with you're thoughts on the matter. Hell, it's the last chance to say you're thoughts before Yagi reveals what happened and overrules us all.

One of the best reasons I've heard of while she'll live is it's Yagi's way to get her to step down as leader and have Clare at a later time become the new leader. After all it's her story. Her death isn't necessary for Yagi to do this just her being shown to be unfit to lead is, and her strength may later be really needed if the mainland is about to get involved.

That's a hell of a way to get demoted. Clare and the other ladies are currently having a members only get together (it's an elite club) and I don't see her being available for that position and I don't know why she or anyone would want her to be the leader. I know she is strong and only getting stronger but strength doesn't make her a good leader. On top of that, her personality doesn't lend itself to that of a leader though that isn't to say that she won't be there for the rest of the ghosts if need be. Thru all of that babble, I guess I could've said I don't see that happening.

[hamstar]

l

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by elyK

That's a hell of a way to get demoted. Clare and the other ladies are currently having a members only get together (it's an elite club) and I don't see her being available for that position and I don't know why she or anyone would want her to be the leader. I know she is strong and only getting stronger but strength doesn't make her a good leader. On top of that, her personality doesn't lend itself to that of a leader though that isn't to say that she won't be there for the rest of the ghosts if need be. Thru all of that babble, I guess I could've said I don't see that happening.

While in a way I agree... I do see it as possible, Clare also has many prerequisites for the position. She wants nothing more than to kill every last AB and to not have anyone else die while doing it (the perfect balance of commanding the fight and protecting the soldiers). Yet, unlike Miria she's never going to stop another from fighting as long as it's not suicidal for them to do such. She's also just as cleaver and quick to pick up on something external as Miria is. So she can do it... Though I don't see her running the day to day business either only the grand scheme and individual fights. So if she does take the lead it's more likely that she'll let Miria, Deneve, or Galatea run the day to day and only step in when needed. I guess you could say she'd trust the lieutenants.

Another way to argue this is by saying that it was Clare's idea to go to Rabona even though Miria was in command. When she has a plan she'll argue for it until them she'd let things run there course and observe.

Who knows if this will happen though... it wasn't my idea just one that I heard and thought it sounded good at the time.

[rafael1932]

Originally Posted by elyK

That's a hell of a way to get demoted. Clare and the other ladies are currently having a members only get together (it's an elite club) and I don't see her being available for that position and I don't know why she or anyone would want her to be the leader. I know she is strong and only getting stronger but strength doesn't make her a good leader. On top of that, her personality doesn't lend itself to that of a leader though that isn't to say that she won't be there for the rest of the ghosts if need be. Thru all of that babble, I guess I could've said I don't see that happening.

I agree with you, clare is more an foot soldier that does not think much and put herself into suicidal missions ( like going straight to lair of an abyssal – twice- cof..cof..stupid…cof…cof). I am not saying that she has no brain but she does not think before hand and is not a leader ( she preferred go all alone in dangerous situations like a lone wolf – the 2 time she went into that abyssal lair)
She is not a leader and making different people only makes the story richer
And yep miria was killed like a stupid. I would say that she became clare for a time but she did not had that yoki power of her…

edit: i mean protagonist armor that it

[An4rchy99]

Well I guess if indeed Miria was alive after all... we did waste a lot of tantrum shouting wtf Yagi and all due to the stupidness of the whole situation... And now that it has come to this (i.e. Miria might be alive) the story would again go back to another dialogue chapter or another attack of org chapter... both of which leaves our dark angel's fate unknown... oh well... I bet when finally Yagi decides to let her out of the cocoon she would blow us away

[Ulquihorror]

I wonder what the other warriors think of audrey now