Claymore Chapter 119

[Fenrir_valindri]

Originally Posted by creb

Edit: Also, pfffffffffffftbbbbb to everyone who dares to say Rox is more psychotic than Ophelia!

That is because she is, Ophelia at least had her own trauma to explain her actions and even "allowed" herself to be defeated by Clare once she realized she had awakened.

Roxanne has basically zero redeeming qualities, and has gone out of her way to ensure the demise of warriors simply because she grew disgusted with their techniques. This chapter really seals the deal, she allowed a warrior to be tortured/raped to death by an Awakened Being simply to provoke Cassandra and deprive her of her one friend.


Ophelia was just crazy, while Roxanne is truly psychotic.

[germanturkey]

Originally Posted by Nixl

@GermanTurkey She used the hilt of her sword to finish Cassandra, notice page 27 where Roxanne brings her sword hilt down on Cassandra and on the top of page 28 she removes it causing a blood spray.

ah. i wasn't aware that that's what it was called.

[Claymore!]

Well we all know that Ophelia is still the coolest and roxanne is just a poser.

The whole scenario with Cassandra and Roxanne is like what happened with Miria and Ophelia. Miria lost control and Cassandra lost because two differrent crazy people enraged them. But Ophelia is so much better .

[FlareKnight]

Definitely look forward to whenever Roxanne gets killed. It may make things more interesting to have someone that cruel and evil around, but doesn't mean I don't enjoy seeing them get taken down in a brutal fashion. Cassandra's whole life seems to be one great tragedy and the end just lined up with it. Hopefully this being brought back will at least give her one chance to get revenge for her friend.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Nah, that is nostalgia and personal bias coming into play. Ophelia allowed Hilda to awaken so she would get the chance to fight her later, and provoked Miria for the same reason. All of this is linked to her own obsession with Awakened Beings.

Roxanne doesn't even have the luxary of this excuse, she simply despised Cassandra and her technique. So she went out of her way to get her friends killed, then purposefully provoked Cassandra into starting a fight with her in the middle of the Organization.

Of the two scenarios, Roxanne comes out ahead by leaps and miles on the psycho/evil scale.

Ophelia just had a more likeable personality, while Roxanne is an evil bitch.

[An4rchy99]

@Claymore!

actually the major difference in Miria and Cassy situation was she did not have enough power. And she truly feared Ophy. Cassy on the otherhand did not know of such a fear and is probably on par or better than Roxanne.

I am sure someone would by now have analysed both the char's and say that Cassy was a weaker no.1.

If for example Yagi never revealed the circumstances for Ophy being what she was, she would still be deemed of just being too crazy and probably pure evil as well. But after we knew her past my perspective of her changed completely. I will just wait to hear what "sad" story Roxanne has to say she has become what she has become.

Who knows she might have been tormented as a child as well. I sure would love to see her demise as a claymore as well.

[rafael1932]

Roxane is a lot smarter too. She was aware that cassandra would attack her and made a plan before hand so everyone was dancing her music.

I do not fell pity about cassandra getting killed by those warriors. She only got what she deserved. If she was a truly good girl, she would not lose her mind just like that, she would try to get near roxane first.

Getting bored with miria. why hysteria don’t go to 50 % yoki release ? plot armor, right ?

also, i think that claymore will become poor when roxane finally dies - she will so miria can defeat the org

[TheRussianMeatClob]

Originally Posted by Fenrir_valindri

Nah, that is nostalgia and personal bias coming into play. Ophelia allowed Hilda to awaken so she would get the chance to fight her later, and provoked Miria for the same reason. All of this is linked to her own obsession with Awakened Beings.

Roxanne doesn't even have the luxary of this excuse, she simply despised Cassandra and her technique. So she went out of her way to get her friends killed, then purposefully provoked Cassandra into starting a fight with her in the middle of the Organization.

Of the two scenarios, Roxanne comes out ahead by leaps and miles on the psycho/evil scale.

Ophelia just had a more likeable personality, while Roxanne is an evil bitch.

Yeah Ophelia was just whats the word i'm looking for here.....Fun?

[MalakTawus]

I like Cassy so much!!!
I hope she'll be able to kill (or at least defeat) Roxy.
Anyway,even at the very end, Roxy didn't have the guts to have a real fight against Cassy,lol.

@rafael

I do not fell pity about cassandra getting killed by those warriors. She only got what she deserved. If she was a truly good girl, she would not lose her mind just like that, she would try to get near roxane first.

Wrong.In case you don't know,temporary insanity is something that can happen even to good people in determinate situations.

[Nixl]

Originally Posted by rafael1932

Getting bored with miria. why hysteria don’t go to 50 % yoki release ? plot armor, right ?

also, i think that claymore will become poor when roxane finally dies - she will so miria can defeat the org

I think it is pretty well implied by Dae that Hysteria is going to awaken and perhaps Roxanne as well. So, I would not worry too much as of yet.

[creb]

I'm going to lol if Yagi trolled us and it was Rox, not Cas, who awakens at the end of this chapter (I mean, the last page seems open to interpretation seeing as there's the trainee/crappy Claymore Rox was fighting standing in it ).

[limao]

also, i think that claymore will become poor when roxane finally dies

Bleh...It was already poor before she appeared so won't make any difference

I'm going to lol if Yagi trolled us and it was Rox, not Cas, who awakens at the end of this chapter (I mean, the last page seems open to interpretation seeing as there's the trainee Rox was fighting standing in it ).

It could be Miria too lol, but the odds are on Cassandra's side since she was falling apart (I can not see a stronger reason for awakening ) or maybe she just exploded and her pieces flew everywhere...who knows?

[Fenrir_valindri]

Originally Posted by rafael1932

I do not fell pity about cassandra getting killed by those warriors. She only got what she deserved. If she was a truly good girl, she would not lose her mind just like that, she would try to get near roxane first.

Not really logical here, she was enraged that her only friend was brutally tortured to death, and the person responsible for that was right there. The fact she basically accepted her fellow warrior's attacks as penance for cutting them on her way to Roxanne really makes her out to be far more noble then your giving her credit for.

Getting bored with miria. why hysteria don’t go to 50 % yoki release ? plot armor, right ?

Because it wouldn't help at all? The problem here IS speed, increasing her Yoki won't make her react faster, it would just make her move faster. This would only compound the problem she is having with Miria now. It is a matter of reaction time now, not actual speed. Not to mention that we don't know if she can use her "Elegent" technique if she goes over a certain amount of yoki, due to the precise movements.

Heck, she could be like Galatea and just be a vain, she does seem quite set on calling Miria's technique crude/ugly, so aesthetics are probably involved.

She simply can't react well enough to avoid Miria's attacks, which is the same reason Miria can't dodge hers.

[Claymore!]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

I like Cassy so much!!!
I hope she'll be able to kill (or at least defeat) Roxy.
Anyway,even at the very end, Roxy didn't have the guts to have a real fight against Cassy,lol.

I completely agree. Cassandra is a much more likable character than Roxanne. And don't forget that Roxanne is a prostitute. I also hope that Cassandra kills Roxanne without awakening (may be too late) because Cassandra was such a better character and she would make a fine addition to the rebellion.

[MalakTawus]

Thinking about it,now the situation could really evolve in ghosts' favour......Cassy and Roxy will keep themselves busy for some time, and even if i can't see Miria defeat Hysty in any way (unless Hysty makes some stupid mistake,lol) she'll probably be able to prolong that fight at least untill Deneve's group arrives......also for some strange reason i don't see Hysty truly interested in the fight,so i wouldn't be too surprised if at some point she decides to leave the battlefield and go away,lol.

.....the big problem would be if Hysty awakens too....

[Claymore!]

Originally Posted by MalakTawus

Thinking about it,now the situation could really evolve in ghosts' favour......Cassy and Roxy will keep themselves busy for some time, and even if i can't see Miria defeat Hysty in any way (unless Hysty makes some stupid mistake,lol) she'll probably be able to prolong that fight at least untill Deneve's group arrives......also for some strange reason i don't see Hysty truly interested in the fight,so i wouldn't be too surprised if at some point she decides to leave the battlefield and go away,lol.

.....the big problem would be if Hysty awakens too....

Yeah Hysteria almost doesn't seem to care very much. She almost seems like she is in a daze of somesort. Maybe the resurection wasn't as successful as we think. and if she isn't fully there it might be a lot easier for her to awaken.

[limao]

Oh, speaking of the Ghosts...they're taking a while to arrive lol

[claremore]

Originally Posted by Claymore!

Yeah Hysteria almost doesn't seem to care very much. She almost seems like she is in a daze of somesort. Maybe the resurection wasn't as successful as we think. and if she isn't fully there it might be a lot easier for her to awaken.

only for roxanne the resurrection was very successful, probably because she was never human from the beginning

[ellifeedn]

Would Cassandra fit in with the Ghosts?

[Nixl]

Originally Posted by ellifeedn

Would Cassandra fit in with the Ghosts?

Since I am pretty sure Cassandra is awakening, I do not think so. True be told, I think Roxanne may get her thrill out of fighting an awakened Cassandra and then dispose of her.