2012-07-26, 19:50 | Link #2463 |
Yuri µ'serator
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Eh I imagine she'll be a AD based assassin type champ from her appearance, like Talon maybe?, Though hard to say how she could possible be OP or not when we have no idea what her kit will be .
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2012-07-26, 20:14 | Link #2467 |
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Hmm.... an AP jungler initiator. Well, wonder how she's gonna itemize considering jungle doesn't give much gold, as having enough AP to do damage while being tanky enough to live through an initiation is going to be tricky.
Well at least we have a decent jungler who can go AP. The void that was left out with the new jungle by making fiddle not jungle well anymore is pretty large, as sometimes I've got two idiot solos who decides to go either tank and/or ad for both lanes...
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2012-07-26, 22:25 | Link #2468 |
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Shield + AoE dmg should be good enough, maybe she can go jungle with a mix of AS, flat AP and armor. She'll probably be needing to b before ganking though...as for her ultimate, moonlight is only spread with Q, so you'll have to be close already and it should still cost enough mana to avoid spamming on runners.
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2012-07-27, 08:10 | Link #2469 |
Osana-Najimi Shipper
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No, I meant itemization. Your typical AD-based jungler has access to good mid-tier off/def based items like wriggles/wit's end, or stuff like phage/hexdrinker can build something useful later on when you do get the gold.
AP on the other hand has access to top tier off/def items, like Zhonya/abyssal, but they are too expensive for the amount of money the jungle gives you. I know because I regularly play AP amumu jungle, and it's VERY tough to stay ahead of the damage curve (while still building AP) unless you snowball.
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2012-07-27, 09:38 | Link #2470 |
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Diana is intriguing. Sounds like itemisation experimentation will take a while to figure out what works for her, but I defintiely need a jungler in my mix as any jungler I've picked up before just hasn't worked for me. I'll take her next.
Wit's End doesn't take much longer to build than Wriggle's. Plus it is a good item to build up MR with and boost the potential of her passive cleaves.
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2012-07-27, 10:49 | Link #2472 | |
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I've seen more Shyvana than Mundo in the GGchronicle tourney, and M5 used her quite a bit in the last online tourney whose name I can't remember, so definitely not under used.
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Also for the record, 2150 vs 1600 is actually a lot of gold to a jungler.
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2012-07-27, 14:56 | Link #2478 |
Yuri µ'serator
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I always gank before going b or 6 unless lanes are doing well or all pushed as even without boots you can still get ganks off top or mid(or rarely bot) with good positioning since they won't have wards this early usually; and I only start boots on Udyr, and sometimes Shyvana; I don't like boots start on skarner, yi, fiora, or sej you get way too low during 1st clear with it. I don't go b til I get something (having at least 800g) or I am get too low on hp generally.
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2012-07-27, 15:51 | Link #2479 |
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I usually run boots + pots in all my junglers, considering counterjunglers and vast majority of laners start with them. Ganking depends on the champ and the lane positions, but I really want to have at least a gp10 item ASAP if playing tanky support. In general, if the champ I'm using need wriggles in the item build, I gank more. If I need 6 to gank effectively (malphite, amumu) I try to power level.
Well, at least where I'm playing, it's so damn hard to get a kill off a gank because almost everyone buys a ward first time back. Best success I have is ganking mid after 4 to force flash, then play the guessing game which side of the river they're warding when they come back. Considering correctly guessing which side is already 50/50, and a lot of times ap carries are just farm, push, and then roam champs like Morgana, it's success rate isn't exactly that high. I don't even bother with bot lane most of the time before the 10 mins mark, as the people I usually play against has the support ward both the river and the bush. You know it's pretty sad when you consider a gank to be successful is when you manage to blow their flash, and have them proceed to play like a pussy before it comes back up again.
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2012-07-28, 00:28 | Link #2480 |
Yuri µ'serator
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So I've started playing Lulu as AP a bit lately rather than just support, and I have to say I am finding to be pretty strong in mid lane lane, her early game harass is pretty strong, and she bring plenty to team fights despite her not huge damage ratios.
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