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wontaek · 2011-02-20, 22:42

http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/c...reliminary.php

Group placement is announced. Also notice that start date has now moved to Feb. 27th

Last Sinner · 2011-02-20, 23:25

Groups 9, 11, 13 and 16 look like the 'Groups of Death' to me. Especially Group 13...

Ash Falls Town · 2011-02-21, 00:06

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Originally Posted by wontaek

Group placement is announced. Also notice that start date has now moved to Feb. 27th

Darn this gives me less time to watch Higurashi.

Spoiler for Higurashi Question:

Spoiler for Preliminary Voting Plans:

Spoiler for Preliminary Predictions:

Ithekro · 2011-02-21, 00:18

Hanyuu does not appear until the second season in any real capacity...aside from being referenced perhaps. Never seen until the second season.

Kotohono · 2011-02-21, 00:44

Let's see I think group 1 and 13 will be the two most fierce, even if Mio is the champion from last year, Merry, Elsie, and Tsukusa in her group won't make it easy if I had to guess

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Spoiler for My plans for Voting Order:

Spoiler for Predictions:

Last Sinner · 2011-02-21, 00:51

Made a more detailed discussion of the groupings in my blog. Short version list here of who qualifies from their respective group:

Spoiler for Predictions for qualifying:

Note that is is nowhere near my personal preferences. I'm being purely logical about that list.

hinakatbklyn · 2011-02-21, 09:34

Spoiler for Voting Pattern, My choices:

Spoiler for Objective Predictions:

broken270 · 2011-02-21, 11:57

Less than one week left? Let's get this thing started, then!

Spoiler for Prediction:

Zeroryoko1974 · 2011-02-21, 12:25

My planned votes.
1. Mio
2. biribiri
3. X(0_________0X)
4. Azu-nyan
5. Ika Musume
6. Ui
7. Yuki Nagato
8. Mahiru
9. Victorique
10. Mikan
11. Eucliwood Hellscythe
12. Yui-nyan
13. Nessa
14. lol it's doll service vs evil pink spore yet again. Vote DESU
15. Kuroneko
16. Tenshi

DasDingus · 2011-02-21, 16:02

Spoiler for Predictions:

Ithekro · 2011-02-21, 23:58

Soon. All to soon all moe' will be unleashed. The world will never be the same.

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2011-02-22, 05:32

i'm all for the k-on girls here. well, i'm on homura as well. XDD

my best bet goes to mio though. I just love that girl <3

broken270 · 2011-02-22, 11:44

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Soon. All to soon all moe' will be unleashed. The world will never be the same.

And I think we have a decent variety of girls this year as well. I wonder how we are going to choose 50 out of all of these girls.

DasDingus · 2011-02-22, 18:05

After watching the new oreimo episode today I was thinking about where Kirino might end up in this year's ISML. Kuroneko is going far, I don't think anybody disputes that but I find Kirino to be a curious case. She has a ton of strong supporters as evidenced by her strong showing in the nomination period but at the same time many people can't stand her as evidenced by her winning the worst character in the AS 2010 Choice Awards. What I'm wondering is if these "high negatives" could doom her in ISML and similar saimoe competitions. The argument would be that a voter that otherwise has no strong opinion about her opponent is likely to vote against her just out of distaste for her character. Obviously the option is there to abstain but I can definitely see Kirino's opponents gaining votes because of who they're up against. Logically this would mean that against any reasonably popular character the odds will be against Kirino more so than any of the other powerful newcomers who don't have nearly the level of negativity surrounding them that Kirino has. So I ask those more familiar with how such things have played out in the past, does an effect like this exist? Do you think it will hurt Kirino's chances down the road as the field is narrowed and she doesn't have any cupcakes to go up against?

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2011-02-22, 19:34

if kirino is up against anyone, i'm sure i'd anti-vote her.XD i'm gonna vote for the other one just to despise her. XDD

popular characters such as in k-on are subject to assassination. just take yui for example,during saimoe though. since a lot hate k-on,they chose to go for nadeko instead w/c was painful to watch for me.DX i'm not really sure if it's like that,but i could only speculate.

anyhow,in ISML, chances are, kirino won't make it. XD

Ithekro · 2011-02-22, 19:41

Depends on the fan bases and what countries they are in. Also depends on what sort of demographic shifts we get this year. On the low end I expect about 3,000-6,000 voters once things get rolling again, with upwards of 10,000 in Single Elimination. At this point we shoul have at least 2,000 voters paying attention.

Wolfnagi · 2011-02-23, 02:36

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Originally Posted by DasDingus

After watching the new oreimo episode today I was thinking about where Kirino might end up in this year's ISML. Kuroneko is going far, I don't think anybody disputes that but I find Kirino to be a curious case. She has a ton of strong supporters as evidenced by her strong showing in the nomination period but at the same time many people can't stand her as evidenced by her winning the worst character in the AS 2010 Choice Awards. What I'm wondering is if these "high negatives" could doom her in ISML and similar saimoe competitions. The argument would be that a voter that otherwise has no strong opinion about her opponent is likely to vote against her just out of distaste for her character. Obviously the option is there to abstain but I can definitely see Kirino's opponents gaining votes because of who they're up against. Logically this would mean that against any reasonably popular character the odds will be against Kirino more so than any of the other powerful newcomers who don't have nearly the level of negativity surrounding them that Kirino has. So I ask those more familiar with how such things have played out in the past, does an effect like this exist? Do you think it will hurt Kirino's chances down the road as the field is narrowed and she doesn't have any cupcakes to go up against?

That might be true but remember this,
Her winning the worst character is AS-only
Since ISML is definitely not AS, her negativity might be different.
Take Louise, for example. Some people might hate her for being bitchy on the same level as Kirino yet she still managed to show a quite good performance on ISML.
My best bet is Kirino gonna be another Hitagi.

@Ithekro: I think that we might have 2x the voters from last year.
I been stalking Facebook ISML page (which is full of K-ON fags, unfortunately -.-" )
And they really stalking ISML like hell.

Last Sinner · 2011-02-23, 06:12

Any character in ISML can fall upon their own sword. If any faction tries too hard to push someone to victory, the other factions generally have stirred up enough resistance. Need I mention what happened to Shana in DE in two consecutive years? Opinions can be changed by one single result. K-ON is still undeniably popular. But that could very much go against them at some point. Winners of ISML tend to drop significantly the year after they win, as do other characters within their series. A lot of voters don't watch that far back from when they started watching anime. You'd expect K-ON characters to still have a good showing. But the general voting population doesn't like consecutive winners.

Nothing is set in stone. There will be a multitude of twists and turns before this season is over.

Ithekro · 2011-02-23, 17:30

K-On will have a new episode come out in a month or so. So they will have a slight flutter of new material this year, followed by their movie long after this year's ISML is decided...in December.

broken270 · 2011-02-23, 20:03

I know it starts on Sunday, but when do we know which three are fighting against each other in each group?

2011-02-20, 23:25	Link #182
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Groups 9, 11, 13 and 16 look like the 'Groups of Death' to me. Especially Group 13... __________________

2011-02-21, 00:18	Link #184
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Hanyuu does not appear until the second season in any real capacity...aside from being referenced perhaps. Never seen until the second season. __________________

2011-02-21, 00:51	Link #186
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Made a more detailed discussion of the groupings in my blog. Short version list here of who qualifies from their respective group: Spoiler for Predictions for qualifying: 1 - Mio 2 - Mikoto 3 - Shana 4 - Azusa 5 - Hinagiku 6 - Taiga 7 - Yuki 8 - Yuri 9 - Yui 10 - Nagi 11 - Tomoyo 12 - Saber 13 - Kirino 14 - Kagami 15 - Kuroneko 16 - Kanade Note that is is nowhere near my personal preferences. I'm being purely logical about that list. __________________

2011-02-21, 09:34	Link #187
hinakatbklyn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Spoiler for Voting Pattern, My choices: 1. Merry 2. Mikoto > Ayuzawa Misaki > Last Order 3. Saten Ruiko > Yuno > Himeji Mizuki 4. Izumi Segawa > Charlotte Dunois > Amae Koromo > Azusa 5. Hinagiku > Kurimu > Kiriya Nozomi > Shiori 6. Konjiki no Yami > Huang > Taiga 7. Funimo > Shouko 8. Haruhi > Index > Kuroi 9. Yui Hirasawa > Lala > Victorique 10. Yuuki Mikan > Nagi 11. Yui Kotegawa > Ayumu > C.C. 12. Homura > Yui > Haruna 13. Kyou > Fate 14. Minatsu > Kagami > Nagisa > Rena 15. Ookami > Kuroneko > Yuuki Kataoka 16. Rin > Mio Isurugi > Kanon > Nadeko > Kanade Spoiler for Objective Predictions: 1. Mio or Merry 2. Mikoto 3. Shana 4. Azusa 5. Hinagiku or squid Girl 6. Taiga 7. Yuki. Sora's own series could decide her fate as to whether she has a chance 8. Haruhi. Index could win if facing both Haruhi and Yuri at the same time. 9. Yui Hirasawa or Victorique 10. Nagi or Rose. Izumi or Tsumugi could advance if facing both Nagi and Rose at the same time 11. Eucliwood. Tomoyo will challenge 12. Can't decide 13. Kirino. I'm worried she might turn this group into a no contest even with Fate and Kyou 14. Kagami. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if anyone in this group advanced. 15. Kuroneko 16. Kanade. I doubt a seiyuu split will stop Kanade even with Rin, Mio and Kanon in the same group. __________________

2011-02-21, 11:57	Link #188
broken270 Defying gravity Join Date: Jul 2010	Less than one week left? Let's get this thing started, then! Spoiler for Prediction: 1. Mio (I would like it if Merry pulls an upset, maybe even Elsie or Tsukasa). 2. Mikoto (I do not believe anyone is blocking her way other than Misaki). 3. Shana (Certain unless a major IS boost overcomes lack of airtime and possibly Rie fanbase). 4. Azusa (I do not see anyone blocking her way. Maybe Nymph for Suigintou, but less likely). 5. Hinagiku (I would like it if Ika-Musume pulls an upset). 6. Taiga (Again, unless a major IS boost overcomes lack of airtime and possibly Rie fanbase). 7. Yuki (Unless Sora pulls a major upset). 8. Haruhi (Unless Yuri pulls a major upset or Index takes advantage of this). 9. Victorique (Maybe Yui will win, but for now, Victorque due to recency). 10. Rose (Then again, Nagi should have no problems getting in, but choosing Rose due to recency). 11. Eucliwood (The strongest winter series girl out there. Tomoyo may have a hard time with her). 12. A legitimate free-for-all. Going for the upset in Homura's part. 13. Kirino (I doubt Kyo or Fate can do something about her) 14. Aoi (The most dangerous dark house out here. Kagami and Nagisa may put up a fight, but I doubt it would work). 15. Ruri (Hitagi and Mafuyu may not stand a chance against her). 16. Kanade (Even with the split, I think Kanade can overcome Nadeko. Mio and Rin are other factors, but she should be able to handle it).

2011-02-20, 22:42	Link #181
wontaek Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Planet Earth Age: 54	http://www.internationalsaimoe.com/c...reliminary.php Group placement is announced. Also notice that start date has now moved to Feb. 27th

2011-02-21, 12:25	Link #189
Zeroryoko1974 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	My planned votes. 1. Mio 2. biribiri 3. X(0_________0X) 4. Azu-nyan 5. Ika Musume 6. Ui 7. Yuki Nagato 8. Mahiru 9. Victorique 10. Mikan 11. Eucliwood Hellscythe 12. Yui-nyan 13. Nessa 14. lol it's doll service vs evil pink spore yet again. Vote DESU 15. Kuroneko 16. Tenshi __________________

2011-02-21, 16:02	Link #190
DasDingus Dango Daikaizoku Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Southern California	Spoiler for Predictions: 1. Mio probably wins this although Merry may put up a fight. I don't see Elsie doing a lot until TWGOK S2 starts airing. 2. Mikoto and I don't think it's that close 3. Shana. I think Houki finishes 2nd here. 4. Nobody's giving anybody but Azusa a chance here. I think Charlotte pulls the upset. 5. Hinagiku 6. Taiga wins this going away. Ui, Kuroko and Rin in some order 2-4, I have no clue what order. 7. Yuki, not close. 8. I want to take somebody other than Haruhi here because I don't feel like Disappearance gives her the bump it gives Yuki but I just don't see an obvious contender to take her spot. I guess haruhi by default. 9. Victorique. She's fresh in people's minds and I don't see Yui as the powerhouse that Mio or Azusa is. 10. No clue for this group. 11. Eucliwood. The farther we get away from Clannad airing the harder it'll be for Tomoyo or Kyou to win a group. 12. Yui. 13. As much as it kills me, Kirino. Kyou isn't much of an obstacle and I see Madoka as being too dark for any of the characters to really do much here. 14. No fall or winter shows. No real strong past candidates. I have no clue. 15. Kuroneko 16. Kanade in a rout. __________________ Twitter\|MAL\|Blog

2011-02-21, 23:58	Link #191
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Soon. All to soon all moe' will be unleashed. The world will never be the same. __________________

2011-02-22, 05:32	Link #192
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	i'm all for the k-on girls here. well, i'm on homura as well. XDD my best bet goes to mio though. I just love that girl <3

2011-02-22, 18:05	Link #194
DasDingus Dango Daikaizoku Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Southern California	After watching the new oreimo episode today I was thinking about where Kirino might end up in this year's ISML. Kuroneko is going far, I don't think anybody disputes that but I find Kirino to be a curious case. She has a ton of strong supporters as evidenced by her strong showing in the nomination period but at the same time many people can't stand her as evidenced by her winning the worst character in the AS 2010 Choice Awards. What I'm wondering is if these "high negatives" could doom her in ISML and similar saimoe competitions. The argument would be that a voter that otherwise has no strong opinion about her opponent is likely to vote against her just out of distaste for her character. Obviously the option is there to abstain but I can definitely see Kirino's opponents gaining votes because of who they're up against. Logically this would mean that against any reasonably popular character the odds will be against Kirino more so than any of the other powerful newcomers who don't have nearly the level of negativity surrounding them that Kirino has. So I ask those more familiar with how such things have played out in the past, does an effect like this exist? Do you think it will hurt Kirino's chances down the road as the field is narrowed and she doesn't have any cupcakes to go up against? __________________ Twitter\|MAL\|Blog

2011-02-22, 19:34	Link #195
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	if kirino is up against anyone, i'm sure i'd anti-vote her.XD i'm gonna vote for the other one just to despise her. XDD popular characters such as in k-on are subject to assassination. just take yui for example,during saimoe though. since a lot hate k-on,they chose to go for nadeko instead w/c was painful to watch for me.DX i'm not really sure if it's like that,but i could only speculate. anyhow,in ISML, chances are, kirino won't make it. XD

2011-02-22, 19:41	Link #196
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Depends on the fan bases and what countries they are in. Also depends on what sort of demographic shifts we get this year. On the low end I expect about 3,000-6,000 voters once things get rolling again, with upwards of 10,000 in Single Elimination. At this point we shoul have at least 2,000 voters paying attention. __________________

2011-02-23, 06:12	Link #198
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Any character in ISML can fall upon their own sword. If any faction tries too hard to push someone to victory, the other factions generally have stirred up enough resistance. Need I mention what happened to Shana in DE in two consecutive years? Opinions can be changed by one single result. K-ON is still undeniably popular. But that could very much go against them at some point. Winners of ISML tend to drop significantly the year after they win, as do other characters within their series. A lot of voters don't watch that far back from when they started watching anime. You'd expect K-ON characters to still have a good showing. But the general voting population doesn't like consecutive winners. Nothing is set in stone. There will be a multitude of twists and turns before this season is over. __________________

2011-02-23, 17:30	Link #199
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	K-On will have a new episode come out in a month or so. So they will have a slight flutter of new material this year, followed by their movie long after this year's ISML is decided...in December. __________________

2011-02-23, 20:03	Link #200
broken270 Defying gravity Join Date: Jul 2010	I know it starts on Sunday, but when do we know which three are fighting against each other in each group?