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Bern-san · 2012-12-02, 17:24

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

About cameos Watanui appeared in Blood-C disguised as a fox. In the Blood-C movie he makes a physical appearance,

And he also appeared during the first chapters of Drug&Drop and Kohaku from Wish made a cameo in the latest chapter. To think that when he made his first cameo in Legal Drug he was running an errand for Yuuko... Which makes me wonder about the timelines in Clamp universe.

About the new series, I hope we get an explanation for the egg that Doumeki had and well... Want some Yuuko. Clamp loves reincarnation so I want to see her reunite with Watanuki.
As much as I like Watanuki I'm not sure if I'd like to see more chapters of him granting wishes, there's already Drug&Drop with that kind of plot of dealing with supernatural stuff so it would be a bit repetitive.

Mad Pierrot · 2012-12-10, 14:28

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Originally Posted by Bern-san

And he also appeared during the first chapters of Drug&Drop and Kohaku from Wish made a cameo in the latest chapter. To think that when he made his first cameo in Legal Drug he was running an errand for Yuuko... Which makes me wonder about the timelines in Clamp universe.

About the new series, I hope we get an explanation for the egg that Doumeki had and well... Want some Yuuko. Clamp loves reincarnation so I want to see her reunite with Watanuki.
As much as I like Watanuki I'm not sure if I'd like to see more chapters of him granting wishes, there's already Drug&Drop with that kind of plot of dealing with supernatural stuff so it would be a bit repetitive.

I don't think Yuko will be back unless reincarnated cos that will be a big contradiction to her comments. While I liked xxxHolic Ro the lack continuity kind of bothered me. It's like if after Tsubasa ended, xxxHolic lost an objective. The series could have ended in volume 16 or actually show us the OVA Adayume to bring more closure to the printed series.

Bern-san · 2013-03-03, 06:37

Spoiler for xxxholic rei ch 1:

NeutralZero · 2013-03-03, 06:57

looks like more of a filler but then again its CLAMP we're talking about...

AstroNerdBoy · 2013-03-03, 11:22

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Originally Posted by NeutralZero

looks like more of a filler but then again its CLAMP we're talking about...

It was a means of reintroducing the characters of Watanuki, Yuuko-san, and Doumeki as well as Moro and Maru.

The real question is whether this is a dream of Watanuki's, or if they'll have everything after Watanuki's injury and recovery be wiped thanks to a wish made, or whether everything after Watanuki's injury was just a dream, including the horrible linkage to Tsubasa.

Bern-san · 2013-03-05, 12:18

If they decide to change everything, then what about Watanuki's cameos as the shopowner in other works like Blood-C or Drug&Drop? It would be an even bigger mess.

KaguraSenju · 2013-03-08, 23:53

Chapter 2

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Von Himmel · 2013-03-09, 00:11

I just found the site that has the translation and starts reading it. I thought no one translated it anymore

There's a part where Yuuko said that 'once fate is intertwined, it will go round and return once more. It kinda feels like some metaphor of time loop... and then there's that 'necessity' instead of the unusual hitsuzen. Oh and have I mentioned the part where Watanuki starts wobbling at the end of ch 1?

Something is not right here

ahelo · 2013-03-09, 08:21

So from what I've gathered, here are some "proofs" in which this is a seuqel:
1. No Mokona - i could mean that somehow Watanuki used Mokona for something
2. Doumeki can get in the shop + Watanuki's eye being normal (With Clamp and their details, I'm pretty sure this MEANS something)
3. Watanuki being slightly nicer to Yuuko than how he was pre-XxxHolic Rou - Somehow I'm getting the vibes of him wanting to cherish the moment.
4. Watanuki getting dizzy towards the end of chapter 1. That's definitely a plot point.
5. As what everyone's saying, it's particularly interesting that Yuuko doesn't use the word hitsuzen and even more peculiar that Watanuki doesn't notice her not using it.

What I speculate from all of this is that Watanuki wished for his life with Yuuko to come back somehow and he's spending it wisely. Or it could just be a reboot with CLAMP taking out all the Tsubasa parts (MOKONA WHERE ARE YOU?) but I seriously doubt that this is a reboot. There's definitely something fishy going on.

But for now, before we get CLAMP'd again, we should just enjoy some nice old xxxHolic mystery.

Von Himmel · 2013-03-09, 08:33

Now that I think about it...if Watanuki wants to have his normal life back with Yuuko, it's 'necessary' to have guests appeared in the shop since his normal life with Yuuko is him doing errands for Yuuko.

Bern-san · 2013-03-09, 08:33

Yes, from the start everything felt strange so I'm sure Watanuki made something or this is some sort of strange dream but we will probably return to Watanuki shop-owner at some point.

SoloPanda · 2013-03-24, 10:13

from the start the whole thing seemed strange... that thing Watanuki kept saying "If it makes you happy then it's fine" really seems odd for him for some reason. and honestly the whole time I get this wierd feeling of suspense. That little conversation between Domeki and Yuko was odd too.

teja208 · 2013-03-24, 11:19

It's as though Rei story line is a different time loop/world line from the original.

Watanuki in this time loop could be a clone.

Black Mokona is the price Watanuki (the shop owner) paid in exchange for creating a new time loop for some TRC related reason.

ahelo · 2013-03-30, 12:22

In chapter 3, Yuuko and Doumeki talks about a customer and how he/she is still unaffected by what's going on. I really can't help but speculate that they're talking about Watanuki here (though I could be completely incorrect).

AstroNerdBoy · 2013-04-03, 06:01

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Originally Posted by ahelo

In chapter 3, Yuuko and Doumeki talks about a customer and how he/she is still unaffected by what's going on. I really can't help but speculate that they're talking about Watanuki here (though I could be completely incorrect).

I made mention in my blog post (which will go up Thursday) that I think the Doumeki egg may be involved here somehow. Even if not, I agree that both Doumeki and Yuuko-san are either talking about Watanuki or are keeping something from him.

ellifeedn · 2013-04-06, 21:10

The tension is starting to build.

Bern-san · 2013-04-07, 07:32

I still have a weird feeling each time Yuuko says necessity instead of hitsuzen.
I really hope the first customer realizes what the other one is doing, I pity her.

AstroNerdBoy · 2013-05-06, 08:43

Did something happen to the Rei manga that I'm not aware of? I don't think I know of anything after chapter 6, but that doesn't mean anything.

SoloPanda · 2013-06-24, 22:01

Ok in chapter 10 page 4

Watanuki says "Go go, a little work for the good of our school."

Does anyone else think he looks just like the Watanuki towards the end of the series? Yuuko said something about unraveling a knot. I think Watanuki stayed so long and became so powerful that his time became jumbled and they are trying to make him realize what he is or something to fix the situation.

Von Himmel · 2013-06-25, 05:29

^
Yeah he kinda looks like that too to me. Also:
>wish
>Watanuki keeps answering
>come back

It really looks like a hint that this is a genuine sequel and that Watanuki got involved in something wrong that made the world like this. But then again, this is Clamp.. there's no way they're going to drop huge hints like that intentionally at this part of the series

2013-03-03, 06:37	Link #763
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Spoiler for xxxholic rei ch 1: Okay... So what is CLAMP doing? It is White Day and Watanuki prepares a cake for Yuuko who is as fabulous as always. Doumeki appears in the store to bring alcohol for Yuuko and someone he knows has a wish? Basically this looks like it is set before Watanuki lost his eye but there is no trace of Mokona and the cover has a suspicious title so what could happen is that this is a dream or some sort of alternative reality. __________________

2013-03-05, 12:18	Link #766
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	If they decide to change everything, then what about Watanuki's cameos as the shopowner in other works like Blood-C or Drug&Drop? It would be an even bigger mess. __________________

2013-03-08, 23:53	Link #767
KaguraSenju Quiet. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: With Titania.	Chapter 2 Spoiler: I found the translator's note to be quite interesting. Who knows what it means for her not to use "hitsuzen" but...I find it even more strange that Watanuki didn't catch it, given Yuuko constantly spams that word at him. I had forgotten how rough it was to wait a full week for a new chapter of HOLiC to come out ;___; I want to know what's going on with this new client, but I want answers to the overall setting more! __________________ We don't die for our friends, we live for them.

2013-03-09, 00:11	Link #768
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	I just found the site that has the translation and starts reading it. I thought no one translated it anymore There's a part where Yuuko said that 'once fate is intertwined, it will go round and return once more. It kinda feels like some metaphor of time loop... and then there's that 'necessity' instead of the unusual hitsuzen. Oh and have I mentioned the part where Watanuki starts wobbling at the end of ch 1? Something is not right here __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2013-03-09, 08:21	Link #769
ahelo Criminal Unrequitor Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2010	So from what I've gathered, here are some "proofs" in which this is a seuqel: 1. No Mokona - i could mean that somehow Watanuki used Mokona for something 2. Doumeki can get in the shop + Watanuki's eye being normal (With Clamp and their details, I'm pretty sure this MEANS something) 3. Watanuki being slightly nicer to Yuuko than how he was pre-XxxHolic Rou - Somehow I'm getting the vibes of him wanting to cherish the moment. 4. Watanuki getting dizzy towards the end of chapter 1. That's definitely a plot point. 5. As what everyone's saying, it's particularly interesting that Yuuko doesn't use the word hitsuzen and even more peculiar that Watanuki doesn't notice her not using it. What I speculate from all of this is that Watanuki wished for his life with Yuuko to come back somehow and he's spending it wisely. Or it could just be a reboot with CLAMP taking out all the Tsubasa parts (MOKONA WHERE ARE YOU?) but I seriously doubt that this is a reboot. There's definitely something fishy going on. But for now, before we get CLAMP'd again, we should just enjoy some nice old xxxHolic mystery. __________________ Traveler on Revenge / Ahelo Sigs / Saimoe Report! Signature by ganbaru

2013-03-03, 06:57	Link #764
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	looks like more of a filler but then again its CLAMP we're talking about...

2013-03-09, 08:33	Link #770
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Now that I think about it...if Watanuki wants to have his normal life back with Yuuko, it's 'necessary' to have guests appeared in the shop since his normal life with Yuuko is him doing errands for Yuuko. __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2013-03-09, 08:33	Link #771
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Yes, from the start everything felt strange so I'm sure Watanuki made something or this is some sort of strange dream but we will probably return to Watanuki shop-owner at some point. __________________

2013-03-24, 10:13	Link #772
SoloPanda Not A Loli-con.... Join Date: May 2011 Location: Beyond the looking glass	from the start the whole thing seemed strange... that thing Watanuki kept saying "If it makes you happy then it's fine" really seems odd for him for some reason. and honestly the whole time I get this wierd feeling of suspense. That little conversation between Domeki and Yuko was odd too.

2013-03-24, 11:19	Link #773
teja208 Critical fanboy Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Anywhere with anime and anime discussion is fine	Random Thoughts It's as though Rei story line is a different time loop/world line from the original. Watanuki in this time loop could be a clone. Black Mokona is the price Watanuki (the shop owner) paid in exchange for creating a new time loop for some TRC related reason.

2013-03-30, 12:22	Link #774
ahelo Criminal Unrequitor Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2010	In chapter 3, Yuuko and Doumeki talks about a customer and how he/she is still unaffected by what's going on. I really can't help but speculate that they're talking about Watanuki here (though I could be completely incorrect). __________________ Traveler on Revenge / Ahelo Sigs / Saimoe Report! Signature by ganbaru

2013-04-06, 21:10	Link #776
ellifeedn Thinker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York	The tension is starting to build.

2013-04-07, 07:32	Link #777
Bern-san Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009	I still have a weird feeling each time Yuuko says necessity instead of hitsuzen. I really hope the first customer realizes what the other one is doing, I pity her. __________________

2013-05-06, 08:43	Link #778
AstroNerdBoy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004	Did something happen to the Rei manga that I'm not aware of? I don't think I know of anything after chapter 6, but that doesn't mean anything. __________________ --> AstroNerdBoy's Anime and Manga Blog - Come on by to read my blather about anime and manga! 🤪 --> AstroNerdBoy on YouTube! - Where I mostly do gaming videos. Help me hit my subscription goals by subscribing today! 😁 --> AstroNerdBoy on Twitch! - Currently, streaming every Friday night at 9pm ET/6pm PT. Impromptu streams when FGO events are going on. Love to see you there! 😆

2013-06-24, 22:01	Link #779
SoloPanda Not A Loli-con.... Join Date: May 2011 Location: Beyond the looking glass	Ok in chapter 10 page 4 Watanuki says "Go go, a little work for the good of our school." Does anyone else think he looks just like the Watanuki towards the end of the series? Yuuko said something about unraveling a knot. I think Watanuki stayed so long and became so powerful that his time became jumbled and they are trying to make him realize what he is or something to fix the situation.

2013-06-25, 05:29	Link #780
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	^ Yeah he kinda looks like that too to me. Also: >wish >Watanuki keeps answering >come back It really looks like a hint that this is a genuine sequel and that Watanuki got involved in something wrong that made the world like this. But then again, this is Clamp.. there's no way they're going to drop huge hints like that intentionally at this part of the series __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」