2011-11-18, 03:00 | Link #2402 | |
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Yeah that's totally a valid reason for letting people die.
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Yeah, good luck getting one in the middle of a battlefield.
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2011-11-18, 03:01 | Link #2403 | ||
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I think its just consequence and a series of events that's making him that way. Let's not forget he has issues also understanding people, a major personality quirk for him. Hindsight, he's come a long ways from that one cute kiddo in episode 1. But he isn't no where near to be taken in as a badass. Yet. |
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2011-11-18, 03:10 | Link #2404 | ||
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2011-11-18, 03:12 | Link #2405 |
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I'm not going to dump all over this show, because I do find it sort of enjoyable and I don't discount the importance of a series looking as great as this one does. But it's definitely held back by a lack of anything really original. If I was to use one word to describe the situations and characters, it would be "generic". It's like the beer that showed up in supermarkets in the 90's that just said "BEER" in black letters on an otherwise blank white can.
The result of all that is that I feel as if I'm watching a rerun, even when I'm watching a new episode. The show always does what you expect it to do and goes where you expect it to go. There's a comfortable familiarity to that, especially when it's competently executed, as this series is. But it also makes it impossible for me to feel anything for the characters or care too deeply about what happens to them. We don't really get any reason to feel or care, because the characters just react emotionally to whatever's happening - we never get any real background on who they are or how they got that way.
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2011-11-18, 03:18 | Link #2406 | ||
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They're not going to kill children, they're going on a dangerous mission to destroy a dangerous weapon. If you say it's too dangerous, I would point out that every mission is dangerous, if it was easy they would have already won. Quote:
No even worse, he wanted to walk away in the middle of all this.
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2011-11-18, 03:19 | Link #2407 | |
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2011-11-18, 03:26 | Link #2408 | ||
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I don't expect everybody (and certainly not a young "fresh recruit" like Shu who initially refused to join Funeral Parlor back in Episode 2) to be entirely comfortable with such figures, and to not say anything about them. Quote:
Unfortunately, a better solution simply wasn't there, and perhaps that was part of the reason why Shu eventually relented.
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There was nothing around to save her due to the devastation. She was badly injured, and dying painfully. He mercy killed her to relieve her of her pain. It is common in war movies.
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So unlike Gai to screw the prediction up so badly. (yes it was a stealthy deus ex machina, lets just forget about it) Quote:
Well I wouldn't put it past the show to use hollywood logic and make it sound like it would blow up the entire city or something. Quote:
Even if he was injured if he's strong enough to jump on mechs surely he can carry a wounded girl on his shoulder or something. The fact she was still concious was good enough of a reason to try and save her. With regard with all the meta-complaing. I'll just say this, being on some "good" side doesn't give you no license to troll or trashtalk other people.
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2011-11-18, 05:30 | Link #2411 | ||
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2011-11-18, 05:39 | Link #2412 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Why should they not? And why won't they get registered? An act of rebellion? Rebels are to be executed, no questions asked. If you believe that your rebelling is from a valid cause, then I cannot say anything else than "prepare to die".
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2011-11-18, 06:19 | Link #2413 |
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The recent discussions are really nowhere close to what we call constructive. In order to prevent any further and needless name calling and whatnot, I'm locking this thread for few hours, in order to clean things up and hopefully letting people chill out a bit.
That said, I'm afraid we will deal with such matters in a much harsher manner from now on. EDIT: Alright, it has been 6 hours. Thread is now open.
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2011-11-18, 14:19 | Link #2415 |
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I think Kaiohsin has it when he says that Yoshino is just writing around whatever cool thing he wants to happen each week. The details of the story are just there to set up cool scenes. And I don't mind, since I find the scenes and the personalities cool.
I disagree as usual with the idea that these are "shallow" characters just because we aren't handed tons of info about their backstories, or a shallow story because it isn't fully fleshed out. And I feel the emotion without it having to be blared all over the place. Nor do I need artificial tension. This is not a popcorn show at all. It would be a total failure as a popcorn show, obviously. I think the fact that it is noitaminA is something that has to be remembered. Whatever it is doing (and I'm still not sure, lol), it is not a conventional shounen or mecha show at all. But much as I am enjoying the show, I still am not impressed with Yoshino Hiroyuki as a writer. Give me Okada Mari any time, lol. Yoshino did Mai-HiME and My-Otome, neither of which I liked. He was closely involved in Code Geass, which I didn't like. He did Sora no Woto, which failed its cast, for me. And he did Dance in the Vampire Bund, which I loved, but mainly for the things that were not Yoshino's department. The two shows he did which I have no problem with were Macross F and Denpateki na Kanojo, which was good, especially the first episode, and especially for the work of the VAs. The staff member here with whom I am happy is, Araki Tetsurou (Death Note).
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2011-11-18, 14:23 | Link #2417 | |
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Also, if that really happened, I'm reminded of a certain image posted earlier where they switched places.
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2011-11-18, 14:33 | Link #2419 |
Yuuki Aoi
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I watched Canaan and enjoyed it, but found it kind of disjointed. I guess I'm weird, but I find these characters easier to relate to. However, I think it's a good comparison to this show, since it also didn't seem to be aimed at a standard shounen audience.
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