2009-06-29, 10:09 | Link #2041 |
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Then what exactly is that "mechanism x" ? What is the miraclous device that can lock the door from the outside without using key ?
Battler's theory is very simple. The culpit is not there, the adult come in and lock from the inside, then get killed. It's very different with your "mechnism x". Locking from inside without using key is a very common thing. You can find locks like that everywhere.
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2009-06-29, 10:17 | Link #2043 | |
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And what's the definition for an Auto-lock? Because there was stated in red that no room other than Kinzo's one has it. |
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2009-06-29, 10:22 | Link #2044 |
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Well anyway I can understand this whole thing if you say you are planning ahead imagining that such kind of mechanisms would be denied. But I still think it's a bad choice to make unnecessary moves.
Also trying to solve a problem starting from the assumption it has a complicated solution might cause you to miss a way easier solution.
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2009-06-29, 10:29 | Link #2045 | ||
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I'm talking about Battler's theory, that's before 34 denied it.
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2009-06-29, 10:57 | Link #2046 | |
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If it all pointed to one solution already, then there'd be no need for discussion (and quite frankly, a lot of us would be bored and disappointed). The options won't be narrowed to one until Ryu07 reveals the "truth"... it's more like what he makes it to be. |
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2009-06-29, 11:33 | Link #2047 |
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I was just thinking, but if the door on Kinzo's door has an autolock, can the culprit change that door itself with most of the doors where a closed room mystery happens?
It's not like there was much focus on the doors themselves, and I also don't think there is anything unique in appearance regarding Kinzo's door. Edit: Plus now we also know Kinzo is dead, so I think he hardly going to miss his own door.
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2009-06-29, 13:37 | Link #2050 |
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Was there a red ever disproving that anyway?
Well it's not like the culprit cannot do it to be honest. Just changing the doors takes like an hour or so I reckon, and the perpetrator can do it before the murders so it won't conflict with the red I think. (fair enough not all the closed rooms can be solved like that though) Albeit it is quite silly to imagining that someone is purposely murdering someone in a room where he deliberately changed the door beforehand. It still makes more sense than Battler's small bomb theory or several other I've read explaining the closed rooms.
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2009-06-29, 14:17 | Link #2052 |
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You know, sometimes it feels like Ryukishi's truth is not entirely determined by him :P I remember an interesting theory mentioning that Battler could somewhat influence the events of the games. That would be kinda neat if it were true.
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2009-06-29, 15:03 | Link #2053 | |
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Although I wonder if such method is valid when it is stated in red that the windows can't be closed from outside.
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2009-06-29, 16:30 | Link #2058 | |
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But it's true that certain bits are inserted into the game based on what the players are saying. |
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2009-06-29, 17:02 | Link #2060 |
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Something I wonder: how high up does loyalty go to the family between Genji, Shannon and Kanon? Is it maybe based on ranking? I'm replaying EP 2 and Genji told Shannon and Kanon not to tell Natsuhi about Jessica making arrangements for four people to stay in one room. Is it because Jessica is technically a higher rank than Natsuhi is, since she's directly related to Kinzo?
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