Soul Eater - Episode 38 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[v1cious]

pretty slow for the most part. Black Star fails yet again.... however as a manga reader, i'm very interested in the next episode.

Spoiler:

we get to meet Asura

[Kotobasuu]

Spoiler:

http://chiikaboom.livejournal.com/2922.html

I think that about sums up my reaction.

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler:

Well this kind of event was expected at some point. Was honestly waiting for the time he'd go overboard and do something like this. Set himself up on a path that up to this point had avoided too many major bumps. But lately the losses have begun building up. Before not getting a soul wasn't a huge issue. It wasn't that he couldn't beat whoever they were up against it was just him fooling around too much. But against Asura, Mifune, and Mosquito that's different. He threw what he had and couldn't win outright.

Situation was reflected pretty well in that dream. Usually its Tsubaki that worries about being left behind. But this time the failures have put dents into that supreme confidence that drives his efforts. Another fight against Kid who can be an absolute goal in terms of surpassing a god makes sense. Though oddly it was the feelings driving him that caused him to lose. After all he could have won with that soul attack early on. But messing up his soul caused it to not work.

It sure ended in a dramatic fashion. Though if Kid had that kind of power how lazy has he been in this series? Should have been able to knock Mosquito around no problem with that kind of strength.

Just about at a point where I can't use the manga to help me understand what's being said in the episode. Changes definitely being made here.

[Keiichi_chan]

Black Star fails yet again....

You're joking, right?
Even when he loses, he loses with such flair and manliness it's hard to fault him.

[lmd_84]

I'll be interested to see the subs in order to know

Spoiler:

a) what went on in general and b) the differences between the manga and anime version of the fight between Kid and Black Star. But when it comes down to the physical differences between the two, that was plain to see. Black Star challenged Kid, and got what he deserved in return for not knowing when to back down.

Seeing Kid fight without the Thompsons was something. We'd seen he's fast before, but that strength was insane , and I can't remember seeing him do anything else quite as simply violent as stamping Black Star into the ground. Makes me wonder what else he's hiding: the others have made clear progress in their combat skills that has been shown to the audience as it happened, whereas Kid has been left as-is since his introduction.

[Cytrus]

Well, Black Star lets himself get pounded into the ground because he himself no longer knows what he was trying to prove. But of course prolonging the fight at that point would have only extended his agony - he wouldn't be able to land any effective blow anymore in his state.

What I liked was changing this:

Nyges: You can't use black blade mode.
B*S: I will anyway <runs away>

to this:

Tsubaki: Nyges says you shouldn't use black blade mode.
B*S: I will anyway. It's a power I need.
Tsubaki: I know.

Kills two birds with one stone.

[Girl_who_cried_gnome]

man-

a- i need subs
b- i need to reread this chapter
c- kid with white slits for eyes shall give me nightmares on this night of Christmas eve

ITS EASY AS ONE, TWO, THREE

[lmd_84]

Originally Posted by Cytrus

Well, Black Star lets himself get pounded into the ground because he himself no longer knows what he was trying to prove. But of course prolonging the fight at that point would have only extended his agony - he wouldn't be able to land any effective blow anymore in his state.

'Let' himself? Could you explain that, please?

Because the way I saw it (having seen some subs) is that Black Star lost because of his lack of confidence following recent defeats. Despite how hard he pushed himself, and how strong/fast he has become since he last challenged Kid, it wasn't enough. Kid simply overpowered him following the 'death' comment.

Black Star brought the outcome of the duel on himself by not recognising - and why would he, necessarily - the reason why he's lacking the strength he believes he should possess and the victories it would give.

True to form, Kid was initially more concerned with ending the fight for the sake of fixing the ornamental horn thing. His reaction when he wanted Black Star to back down was...interesting. It wasn't about symmetry at that point, after all.

[Hir0]

Spoiler:

did they change BJ to head of Technology from Internal Affairs or am i hearing things?

There seems to be alot of change, I guess this will be the turning point for Anime-Original ending. Now I want to know what's the anime got for us lol

[Cub-Sama]

Spoiler for 38:

I loved the episode, been looking forward to the epic glimpse of White Star, because Black Star's family history and his father interest me more than everyone else apart from Shinigami-sama. Also considering how revered the Star Clan is if his father was leader (I think this was said somewhere) then imagine Black Star's potential if he always remained focus like Kidd and stopped being so Narutoish

[-Sho-]

It was entertaining ^^
But i think Black star think too much for surpass God .... its impossible theoricaly .... if he surpass God , he surpass all the characters ...
Wow White Star looks like he's a badass !

[Hisago]

Dang, Kid is scary when he gets serious...

Spoiler for next episode:

In the next episode Chrona gets more screentime again! And... runs away, it looks like. Well, at least s/he goes out at the end of a character-centric episode, which I guess is better than disappearing without a trace like in the manga.

[Sinestra]

Those 3 ending blows to Black Star were just horrible when Kid preform the AX kick i felt my own body cracking. Jesus i think a lot of people forget just how dangerous Kid is with his hand to hand skills. He seriously took Blackstar down but i understand why Blackstar did what he did it actually speaks a lot about his personality. I think now that hes gotten his self confidence back he could start to train a little harder to learn how to properly use the Demon Blade without destroying his body so much. White Star looked freakin bad ass with those crazy eyes its no wonder his son has talent.

next episode seems to be about Chrona i cant wait to see how that pans out.

[Cub-Sama]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Those 3 ending blows to Black Star were just horrible when Kid preform the AX kick i felt my own body cracking. Jesus i think a lot of people forget just how dangerous Kid is with his hand to hand skills. He seriously took Blackstar down but i understand why Blackstar did what he did it actually speaks a lot about his personality. I think now that hes gotten his self confidence back he could start to train a little harder to learn how to properly use the Demon Blade without destroying his body so much. White Star looked freakin bad ass with those crazy eyes its no wonder his son has talent.

next episode seems to be about Chrona i cant wait to see how that pans out.

I think those eyes are the manifestation of the Star Clan's wavelength and blood, meaning Black Star is becoming more like them in terms of wavelength and personality (desire to become the strongest). But if they were some of the strongest warriors how did Shibusen kill ninjas, won't they sen you coming? Look at how strong Black Star goes when he uses the Assassination Laws, and he is still a kid imagine his father or his clan using them! It's like the Star Clan is the Uchiha Clan of this series instead they were wiped out by Shibusen instead of a misgruntled son

[Guardian Enzo]

"Adults remember the past fondly, and children use the future to escape." That's actually rather profound, if you think about it...

Marvelous ep, I thought. Great insight into Black Star and Kid (who are both much more interesting than the Maka/Soul pairing, frankly). Kid managed to come off as almost tender even as he was smashing Star into the pavement, amazingly. I thought we saw much more of his depth in this ep than any other.

As for B*S*, I've come to look at him as the archtypal male in many ways. He attacks (literally) every problem with the male side of his psyche - front-on assault, move forward, get stronger, kick ass or get ass kicked, dust ass off and do it again. The other side of him is still there but it's so deeply buried he never even lets it enter his equation, and only Tsubaki sees it. It seems as if his lineage reinforces this, and he needs someone to take him under his wing and guide him to the right path. But how do you do that with a guy who accepts no outside guidance? Oddly, Mifune would be the perfect sensei for B*S* - he posesses formidable power but always controls it precisely, plus he loves children and loathes the evil work he's forced to do. Could it happen?

[Cub-Sama]

I want more insight into the Star Clan I wouldn't be surprised if to be recognized as a member of the clan, the child has to slaughter 30 people in 1 day and consume their souls.

[Reincarnated]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

"Adults remember the past fondly, and children use the future to escape."

...Which is very true. This is one of what I love about Soul Eater. Many meaningful advices.

Oooh gotta miss the anime. next Monday will be no episodes ;_;

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

As for B*S*, I've come to look at him as the archtypal male in many ways. He attacks (literally) every problem with the male side of his psyche - front-on assault, move forward, get stronger, kick ass or get ass kicked, dust ass off and do it again. The other side of him is still there but it's so deeply buried he never even lets it enter his equation, and only Tsubaki sees it. It seems as if his lineage reinforces this, and he needs someone to take him under his wing and guide him to the right path. But how do you do that with a guy who accepts no outside guidance? Oddly, Mifune would be the perfect sensei for B*S* - he posesses formidable power but always controls it precisely, plus he loves children and loathes the evil work he's forced to do. Could it happen?

Have to agree that Mifune seems to fit perfectly for a mentor/teacher to Black Star. In a sense he has taken that role in a limited fashion. Has given advice at various points adn especially when he defeated Black Star in the rematch. In terms of pointing out the necessity of understanding the other presence inside Tsubaki and to not get impatient in getting stronger. Just too bad that there is only so much that Black Star will listen to from others especially when it comes from losing to them. Do hope Mifune at some point does get a teacher position since he would do well with it. Though have to think that will come after at least one more rematch with him and Black Star.

[KanaKaishou]

So, I noticed over the past 2 episodes that the series has taken a MUCH darker tone (where the manga is constantly aware of the humor in things). I like it. And it's not over the top with changes, too. It's subtle changes, and reasonable ones. I'm really interested to see if they can put this all together. The entire series seems to be a reflection on the razor edge between genius and madness.