Danganronpa - Episode 6 Discussion / Poll

[White Manju Bun]

Originally Posted by Divini

That ED photo suddenly could have a deeper meaning. A photo in the past?

Thats why Naegi being in it and not dead bothers me. It very well could be a photo from the past.

[Triple_R]

The one issue I have with the "ED pic is a photo in the past" is that it would mean that all of these kids were mind-wiped to forget ever meeting each other. But then, if that was the case, why did Maizono recognize Naegi? It's an odd exception.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

The one issue I have with the "ED pic is a photo in the past" is that it would mean that all of these kids were mind-wiped to forget ever meeting each other. But then, if that was the case, why did Maizono recognize Naegi? It's an odd exception.

Maybe the "mind wipe" only affected the time where they made the first step into their new school, until they awoke inside the "game area". So in this case Naegi's and Maizono's memories are from before that time frame.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by White Manju Bun

Thats why Naegi being in it and not dead bothers me. It very well could be a photo from the past.

Also, Naegi is the mole.

[Sute443]

If we're discussing possible "mind wipes," are we thinking that the culprits have magical powers? It would explain a few things (how all of the captives could have been knocked out without any side effects, how Monokuma moves around) but that feels... cheap. Or are we going for mysterious drugs?

Also, is anyone else bothered by how the captives pay so much attention to the "clues" about the what's going on with the school? Even as an anime-only viewer, it seems pretty obvious that the culprits would only have left items they wanted the captives to find inside the school, so they wouldn't have left anything genuinely useful, right? Even if Fujisaki actually had time to program a full AI in the time between finding the laptop and getting killed (which I doubt), it isn't like the culprits would have left anything important on it, right?

[Calca]

Celes seems way too active this time around and is trying too hard. My money is on her.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dengar

The problem with this "proof" is that there's no guarantee that Celes is the only one who drinks tea. Lots of people drink tea. I drink tea, does that mean I'm the mole?

Yes and there are several character in DR who take the tea item as a gift, not to mention the oney you drink tea with anyway.
I'd also like to point out that it might be coffee.

[jeroz]

^it's fun to read that final sentence because of your avatar

Originally Posted by hamazura

and fukawa stalking and chuunibyo-ing in background

but is it really chuuni if she's the real deal? :P
Actually, Byukuya seems surprisingly calm with a serial killer stalker following him around

[frodonk]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Compared to chapter 2 case, the adaptation of chapter 3 is arguably easier. Regardless I will post a summary of the chain of events, and a list of the missing clues.

that's what I'm always looking forward to every week were there any clues left out this time? or was the episode complete aside from that scene you mentioned?

anyway, the fat guy had the camera that celes found, look at him in the ED.

there's also that locked room in the 3rd floor that asahina can't open.

and no, the super duper high school best girl isn't the culprit. SHE CAN'T BE!

I already knew celes was the mole, based on the tea cup in a previous episode, but I was also looking at the fat guy being the mole, but he's dead so that rules him out.

and who is yasuhiro?

also, we can easily explain why naegi is with all those dead people at the ED. he's the super duper high school ghost.

rather than list everything, I'll just state my conclusion:

Spoiler for Speculation:

celes and yamada teamed up to kill ishimaru, then celes killed yamada.

the laptop issue remains to be solved.

[jeroz]

well, the door which Asahina couldn't open seems to be the room where they later found the body in, so that's one "mystery" sorted.

I wonder why Yamada said the name of the idiot though, and where is he during all this anyway?

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by Sute443

Even if Fujisaki actually had time to program a full AI in the time between finding the laptop and getting killed (which I doubt)

He is the Super Duper High School Programmer who specialises in AI development. Of course he managed to pull it off in that timeframe.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by frodonk

that's what I'm always looking forward to every week were there any clues left out this time? or was the episode complete aside from that scene you mentioned?

anyway, the fat guy had the camera that celes found, look at him in the ED.

there's also that locked room in the 3rd floor that asahina can't open.

and no, the super duper high school best girl isn't the culprit. SHE CAN'T BE!

I already knew celes was the mole, based on the tea cup in a previous episode, but I was also looking at the fat guy being the mole, but he's dead so that rules him out.

and who is yasuhiro?

also, we can easily explain why naegi is with all those dead people at the ED. he's the super duper high school ghost.

rather than list everything, I'll just state my conclusion:

Spoiler for Speculation:

celes and yamada teamed up to kill ishimaru, then celes killed yamada.

the laptop issue remains to be solved.

The investigation has yet to start, all this was just chapter prologue.
Whether the clues got relocated is to be seen, they certainly got changed to make it less obvious though...
A very important clue that has been left out of the anime should have already been given in EP one, it is too late to tell now though, as it would unavoidably spoiler the entire case.
Even if we bring it in a bit more hidden it would make everything so glaringly obvious that you can drop next week's episode alltogether and wait for EP 8 if we anyone mentions it now.

Also mind that this is an animated version of the game, so the viewers are expected to look at the entire scene themselves even without anyone pointing at the clue with their fingers.


One thing I think I should mention though is the huge apparatus in the Physics lab

- Monokuma should have appeared at this point and:

Spoiler for The apparatus - Should have happened before Ishimaru's death:

trolling Ishimaru by stating its a time maschine, Ishimaru then wanted to go back in time to keep Oodawa from killing Fujisaki.
Then monokuma stated that it can only go back in time 5 seconds further trolling Ishimaru.
In the end Monokuma told the truth and explained that it is an air purifier

[Dengar]

There's enough circumstantial evidence to figure out what happened though, so I don't think it's all that important.

[White Manju Bun]

Originally Posted by jeroz

I wonder why Yamada said the name of the idiot though, and where is he during all this anyway?

Probably so he'd be convicted on the crime. Remember if everyone votes for the wrong person, the murderer wins. Celes wins and gets her money if Shaman guy goes down.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by White Manju Bun

Probably so he'd be convicted on the crime. Remember if everyone votes for the wrong person, the murderer wins. Celes wins and gets her money if Shaman guy goes down.

Wow... that would mean Yamada loves Celes so much that he'd not only forgive her for killing him but that he'd even try to help her get away with killing him.

That would be touching in a twisted sort of way.

[ThereminVox]

What a mess. And with the last case establishing that some of the class will tamper with evidence on a whim, it leaves me with no interest in working out the details, since they'll likely prove partially irrelevant anyway. The entertainment value will have to come from the assorted lunacies of the survivors

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dengar

There's enough circumstantial evidence to figure out what happened though, so I don't think it's all that important.

Aye - I dare to bet they will still use it as evidence though.

[Sute443]

Originally Posted by Dengar

He is the Super Duper High School Programmer who specialises in AI development. Of course he managed to pull it off in that timeframe.

Still not buying it. My working theory is that all the stuff like the letters, the laptop, and Alter-Ego were deliberately put out there by the kidnappers to mess with the captives.

If Fujisaki programmed Alter-Ego, where did he get enough voice samples of Oowada to construct the message for Ishimaru? Seems to me that something like Fujisaki deliberately collecting voice samples would have been worth mentioning, but it wasn't. But the kidnappers would have plenty of voice samples, since they have all the video cameras.

And there might be even better proof that someone besides Fujisaki is responsible for Alter-Ego: What floor is that particular changing room on? The door is different from the one to the sauna Oowada and Ishimaru battled in, and they treated the revelation of there being no security cameras like a new thing, so it seems possible that it could be on the newly-opened third floor. If that's the case, then the kidnappers are definitely behind Alter-Ego, because the third floor was closed until after Fujisaki died. It would have been impossible for him to set it up like that.

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Wow... that would mean Yamada loves Celes so much that he'd not only forgive her for killing him but that he'd even try to help her get away with killing him.

That would be touching in a twisted sort of way.

Or it could be that he loved Alter-Ego that much, and Celes was using it as a hostage.

[Ledgem]

Originally Posted by Sute443

And there might be even better proof that someone besides Fujisaki is responsible for Alter-Ego: What floor is that particular changing room on? The door is different from the one to the sauna Oowada and Ishimaru battled in, and they treated the revelation of there being no security cameras like a new thing, so it seems possible that it could be on the newly-opened third floor. If that's the case, then the kidnappers are definitely behind Alter-Ego, because the third floor was closed until after Fujisaki died. It would have been impossible for him to set it up like that.

This has also been on my mind. I was under the impression that the bath area was new, in part due to the revelation that there were no cameras there. However, I'm not so sure; Asahina went there on her way to get donuts at the start of the episode, and given how timid she has been, I can't imagine her wandering into a new area at night by herself. It also seems far too obvious and I highly doubt that the characters would have overlooked the fact that this was a new area that opened after Fujisaki's death, and thus that it would have been impossible for Fujisaki to hide the laptop there.

But the voice samples and all, chalk that up to this being a work of fiction. Similarly, where's the AC adapter for the laptop, and how could it be plugged in to a cubbyhole? Ta-da, fiction.

[Solitaired]

Originally Posted by Sute443

Still not buying it. My working theory is that all the stuff like the letters, the laptop, and Alter-Ego were deliberately put out there by the kidnappers to mess with the captives.

These students possess extreme talent. It is because they cut out all free time interaction events that you couldn't understand. They are not just talented, they are super duper freakingly talented. Genocider murdered more than 20 people and was never found, Byakuya's attitude comes from his super Heir status, Celes won millions through gambling, one look from Sakura and you know, Hagakure's predictions have a 30% accuracy, and you haven't seen all of Naegi's luck yet.

Alter Ego IS created by Fujisaki Chihiro because he is the best high school programmer.