2014-09-20, 16:46 | Link #5021 | |||
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I'm not saying Ilya doesn't have issues with Sakura in HF. I know she does, because she outright states that she does. I just think it's ludicrous to claim that she hates Sakura so much that she starts making subtle digs about how dangerous she is when singing a Nursery Rhyme.... Quote:
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His Sakura-hating is honestly ridiculous. He's now got to the point where he's actually projecting it on to characters in the VN and, even, onto Nasu himself. I wouldn't be surprised to hear him arguing that Shirou actually secretly hates Sakura and just thinks she's good in bed or something next....
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2014-09-22, 07:56 | Link #5023 | |
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That Shirou meme, if you call it a Japanese idiom. I've only heard that from Fate/stay night. I've never heard something similar from other anime/mangas from a time when you can call me an otaku. Also, Saber only survive Gae Bolg, but she didn't avoid getting hurt. After that attack, you would just feel fortunate Saber is blessed with good fortune. Shirou is partnering with Rin, so you have to take Archer into account, how will Archer counter against it? And the in game discussion about Lancer never talked about avoiding Gae Bolg by getting out of range, so I have to assume that's not possible. Have to get with the flow of the game. Anyway, besides the flow of the game, even I don't think running to get out of range would work anyway. It just wouldn't work against the cause and effect curse. Plus, it's hard to be out of Lancer's range. Then you have to ask, how fast can Lancer do his Gae Bolg. I have to say pretty fast, being Gae Bolg is anti-personnel. |
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2014-09-22, 08:39 | Link #5024 | ||
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As for Saber recognising Ilya, Nasu stated outright that Saber did not know that Ilya was Kiritsugu's daughter. She did recognise the appearance, most likely, but she assumed it was just another Einsbern homunculus. Quote:
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2014-09-22, 08:40 | Link #5025 | |
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In the Fate route Shirou said "People die if they are killed, that is how it is supposed to be" (though in the game he never said that out loud, but just thought about it instead) after giving Avalon back to Saber. He was merely commenting on the fact that he only survived many fatal wounds due to Avalon and would not be saved by it again, due to not having given it back to its original owner. In the UBW route Rin said the same to Shirou after he lost Saber due to Caster. She wants to make him give up on the HGW by remembering Shirou that he no longer has the protection of a servant, while, without noticing it herself, trying to convey to him that she is unable to "revive" him again as she did in the prologue. In the normal HF ending Sakura says the line again to deal with the fact that Shirou really is dead and will not miraclously come back to life. And yes, it is cultural thing that non-japanese will most likely not understand. Just think of it as something like a phrase by a greek philosoph, like Socratese's "I know that I know nothing".
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2014-09-22, 10:08 | Link #5027 | |
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2014-09-22, 16:06 | Link #5028 | |
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2014-09-22, 22:18 | Link #5029 |
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It was Saber's luck that saved her from Gae Bolg's curse at the beginning, that's the scene phishmeister68 was talking about. That and her instincts. Of course Avalon would give Gae Bolg the finger, but she didn't have Avalon at that time. The Luck parameter decides whether you have a chance to dodge Gae Bolg and Saber has Rank B with Shirou as her Master.
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2014-09-23, 04:15 | Link #5031 | ||||
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Let me share this mail first. I'll make a post about what I think later.
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This is after I made a post that contain a portion taken from the VN. No, unlike Gae Bolg, that allows you to find a countermeasure once you find out it will go for the heart, there are no possible counters for Assassin’s secret technique even when you know about it. If there is a countermeasure, it is only not to let him use it. To beat it, she must attack him with her strongest blow before Assassin uses that technique--- |
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2014-09-23, 09:58 | Link #5034 | |
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Avalon~ Trololol~
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2014-09-23, 10:12 | Link #5035 |
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It looks a bit childish to just say one word and not taking phishmeister68 serious. I recommend reformulating your post in an actual argument or opinion. It will make your post more comprehensible and stronger.
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2014-09-23, 10:17 | Link #5037 |
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Multi-refraction isn't all that great since it basically just means you'll have to take the attack, just because your hit doesn't mean your dead, and if you have the capability to tank it outright or even heal from it your fine.
Gae Bolg you can't block or avoid you have to be out of it's range so it can't be cast. Archer can do it because he can trace gae bolg and has seen it before, but a proper heart strike is a killing blow regardless of durability and you can't regenerate anywhere else it hits. |
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