[Manga] Chapter 349 Discussion

[Hunter]

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[D a m i e n]

i m wondering why there is a chapter spoiler thread poping up every week the same day when no one has actually the raw and a bunch of fakes are running around. some people have to suffer pages of fake before they get to actually see the discussion about the real chapter.
no a complain just wondering why not wait for the official chapter to be available for most to avoid fakes from running around.

[DeDe]

Don't have to worry about fakes this week because this one comes from Hijamin.

Sort of confusing. We need a better translation.

Spoiler for chapter 349:

quick translation by brucelee and Sho of NF.

ナルト
Naruto
北アジトを目指すサスケ達3人
The sasuke 3 head for the North base
水月バテる
Suigetsu gets tired

休憩中に香燐、重吾の事を話す
While taking a break Karin talks about Juugo

大蛇丸に自ら捕まりに来たらしい。自らの殺人衝動を抑える為に
Apparently Orochimaru had personally locked him up to control his killing urges
大蛇丸は大蛇丸で重吾の能力（体液）から重吾の持つ殺人衝動の状態を引き起こす酵素に興味を持 った
Orochimaru had an interest in the enzymes coming from Juugo's special abilities (which were fluids coming from the body) that produced the killing urges.

それが呪印らしい（殺戮を繰り返し回り血の海の1ページと一人の男）
Apparently that's the CS. (1 page shows a boy standing in a slaughter amid a river of blood)

その一人の男が外へ抜け出してサスケの前に現れる
サスケ、一刀両断
That boy goes outside and appears in front of Sasuke
Sasuke makes a resolute decision (or slices him in two)

サスケ「さっさと重吾に会いに行くぞ」
Sasuke: Let's hury up and go and meet Juugo
香燐「アレ？誰なのこれ」
Karin: Eh? Who's he?

最後のコマはなんかぞわぞわ侵されている重吾らしい人で終わり（顔ちょっと出てくる
The final frame ends with the person that seems to be Juugo coming at them (a little bit of his face is shown).

[Rahan]

Is this supposed to be a full summary ?

Spoiler:

I guess we need better translations because it does not really much sense. Karin asked who is Juugo after talking about him.
Seems like not much happens (Suigetsu gets tired... who cares ?) Nice to see an explaination about the CS though and the confirmation Sasuke's men are evil (one Oro fangirl, one serial killer, and errr ... an exhibitionnist)

[xcad]

so the killing urges form the CS?

[Sabaku Kyu]

The spoiler doesn't reveal much, except that Oro apparently had to deal with Juugo personally and that Juugo's special ability is releasing enzymes. Weird. Himajin's summaries are always true but unfortunately, aren't too detailed. But yeah, hopefully a better summary will come out soon.

Originally Posted by D a m i e n

i m wondering why there is a chapter spoiler thread poping up every week the same day when no one has actually the raw and a bunch of fakes are running around. some people have to suffer pages of fake before they get to actually see the discussion about the real chapter.
no a complain just wondering why not wait for the official chapter to be available for most to avoid fakes from running around.

Some people don't mind sifting through the fake spoilers. I think it's better to have a separate thread otherwise, the spoilers will just appear in the current chp discussion and people will have to use spoiler tags if they want to discuss them. With a separate thread, people who don't want to bother with fake spoilers can continue to use the current chp discussion and people who want to discuss the spoilers don't have to bother with the tags.

[Luminion Lancer]

-So if the chapter proves to be as accurate as Sabaku Kyu mentioned then it would seem that the Cursed Seal was created by experimenting on Juugo. Interesting, now I want to know more about this guy. If he's half as bloodthirsty and savage in battle as the 4-Tailed-mode Naruto then I think I may have found yet another favorite character. But I do find it weird that the word "enzymes" are used. I am no Biology and Chemistry expert but aren't enzymes produced in the saliva to break down food? I'd understand if they used the word "adrenaline" but enzymes kind of throw the image off...

[Kenu]

Originally Posted by DeDe

Don't have to worry about fakes this week because this one comes from Hijamin.

Sort of confusing. We need a better translation.

The translation is not bad, it's the japanese summary which is brief and disjointed.


If this is true, it is very unlike the new Kishimoto to actually start explaining the history of introduced ideas.

Granted it is explaining something about his favourite character.

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto

- But I do find it weird that the word "enzymes" are used. I am no Biology and Chemistry expert but aren't enzymes produced in the saliva to break down food? I'd understand if they used the word "adrenaline" but enzymes kind of throw the image off...

That's true, but there's many different types of enyzmes and they're found in more than just the saliva. Using the general term "enyzme" is a little more believable than mentioning the specific hormone adrenaline since adrenaline itself doesn't cause killing urges, though it does prepare the body to fight. It's weird though, if the CS was derived from the fluids in Juugo's body, how was Oro able to transmit the seal to Sasuke through a bite from his teeth? I always thought the CS derived from Oro's own venom.

Originally Posted by Kenu

The translation is not bad, it's the japanese summary which is brief and disjointed.

If this is true, it is very unlike the new Kishimoto to actually start explaining the history of introduced ideas.

Granted it is explaining something about his favourite character.

He does it a few times. We've found out some history on the Rasengan, the origins of Zabuza's sword, further explanations about bloodlines, elemental justsu. He just chooses to explain some things in more detail than others.

[Luminion Lancer]

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

That's true, but there's many different types of enyzmes and they're found in more than just the saliva. Using the general term "enyzme" is a little more believable than mentioning the specific hormone adrenaline since adrenaline itself doesn't cause killing urges, though it does prepare the body to fight. It's weird though, if the CS was derived from the fluids in Juugo's body, how was Oro able to transmit the seal to Sasuke through a bite from his teeth? I always thought the CS derived from Oro's own venom.

-Yeah you're right. I guess using that word is fine when placed into that context. Regarding Orochimaru's ability to transmit that venom have you ever considered that he might have "sack" within his mouth to store that venom like the Spitting Cobra? That type of snake has loose portions of skin in it's mouth to send the venom flying or when bitting to inject it. Several snakes transmit their venom that way. Perhaps Orochimaru did it in a similar fashion but he had to intake the poison himself and then transmit it...

[yinstro]

yeah as said an enzyme is a substance which is a catalyst of chemical change. So if the enzyme effected something in the brain chemistry that causes intense killing urges, of course theres also some possibility iteffects chakra or infects it. Then theirs also the fact its a quick summary of 2nd hand script, may just not be the best word they used.

Anyyyhow the point is, i guess something he secretes or whatever. It does something weird and has something to do with the CS.

if ths turns out to be real, it seems kind of... ehhhh i could use seeing some other people or having something actually happen. And if the translation hits the nail on the head, why would sasuke want a guy who can't control his killing urges, and also makes other people unable to do the same. So much so, its to the point your average nobody who gives him a handshake has to be killed. Doesnt sound too useful or worth it, unless he has some method of sealing his abilities or something

[Hunter]

It isn't said Juugo can control his murderous urge, in fact it's seem to be the opposite.
If he is the source of the CS (which would explain the physical morphing and murderous intent that the CS trigger into its users), Sasuke might have some particular use of him related to his own CS.

[SpiRo]

I hope the news about freeing prisoners and death of Orochimaru will come to Konoha in this chapter..

I wanna see their faces

[Goshin]

the sad thing is even if naruto hears that sasuke has defeated orochimaru and is freeing peeople. he will still be determined to bring sasuke back to konoha naruto is going to look really pathetic if he does that.

then again he might remembers ero-sannin advice and forget about sasuke untill they meet again in the end.

[Kotengu]

So far Kishi has done a nice job with these new characters sasuke's collecting. Personally I didn't like sai or Yammato, I also didn't like choji till I saw him skinny. Now I like him even thou he's phat.

Juugo looks promising. Specially if he's the source of all CS experimentation. Sasuke still looks to have CS, and all that was really said about it was that it increased your abilites, but coroded your mind(if used too long). That would suck for sasuke who needs power, AND his facilites to take on the Genjutsu weilding Itachi.

As a matter of fact. How Bamf would Itachi really be if his genjutsu didn't even come into play? Yea he's a bit nastyer than kakashi, but it doesn't seem like he would be better than Guy, Kyuubi naruto, or CS2 Sasuke at this point.

[SpiRo]

Originally Posted by Goshin

the sad thing is even if naruto hears that sasuke has defeated orochimaru and is freeing peeople. he will still be determined to bring sasuke back to konoha naruto is going to look really pathetic if he does that.

then again he might remembers ero-sannin advice and forget about sasuke untill they meet again in the end.

It would be very stupid is they again wanna bring him .. but im more interested what Tsunade, Jiraiya and Kakashi will say on that .. or Akatsuki ..

Anyway Naruto wont be able to find him becouse he is always on the move .. but they will meet again sometime against Akatsuki ..

[Sasuke_Bateman]

Naruto and Co. better be in this chapter, i don't want to wait another week to hear Konoha's reaction.

[DeDe]

Juugo looks like he is also a warning from Kishimoto of what can happen if Sasuke keeps using the CS. So Sasuke will still need saving in a sense. Someone will have to convince Sasuke to stop using the CS.

Suigetsu getting tired is important since it reveals a weakness. When he hulks up, he probably expends a lot of chakra.

I guess Karin's abilities are being saved.

[yinstro]

well good news is its possible the whole CS thing could get an explanation. But like i said(or meant to say) a guy like him, can he even work in a team at all? well i suppose sasuke's mind control genjutsu sharingan may be the key to turning him into something useful on a team.

[Sinaura]

Seems like another boring, fruitless chapter this week.