2008-01-29, 00:57 | Link #1 | |
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ADV Films discussion thread
According to ANN, ADV has pulled from their main site all of their current titles including
Kanon Pumpkin Scissors Gurren Langan (NOOOOO) Sgt Frog (Which hasn't been released like GL) This doesn't look good. Edit by Moderator: This is a bit misleading. You should read the whole article: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...s-from-website Quote:
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2008-01-29, 01:57 | Link #5 |
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Well, looking at the situation with Geneon and what is going on with ADV, it is almost the same, that is one of the reason I think that Geneon was trying to make a deal with ADV, because both of them was hurting and now that Geneon is now gone, ADV might be next. I was reading the ANN fourms (even know that I dont see eye to eye with almost everybody on there) and they are freaking out about that, even that sale that RightStuf is having right now, and ADV pulling alot of titles, it is follow that path.
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2008-01-29, 02:12 | Link #6 | |
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The pulling titles is a bit worrying though. I was looking forward to Kanon... Of course I'm sure there's plenty of, "Zomg fansubs killed the industry!" comments there, as opposed to the real issue of anime companies, and entertainment companies in general, failing to adapt quickly enough to the demands of the market.
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2008-01-29, 02:14 | Link #7 | |
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This is a bit misleading. You should read the whole article:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...s-from-website Quote:
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2008-01-29, 02:53 | Link #8 |
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Yeah, that news bit is misleading, but pretty much every industry expert is on alert as of late. John Oppliger predicts at least two licencing companies will fold till the end of this year, FUNimation's Gen Fukunaga said they perceive problems on the ADV side, even Hey, Answerman! finally got his head out of the sand. ADV killing their linear service and the ADVocates charity assistance to anime clubs certainly doesn't help the overall atmosphere.
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2008-01-29, 03:18 | Link #9 | |
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Their ADVocates program might have just been canceled due to lack of interest. I know the anime club I was in never bothered to get permission or anything like that to screen an anime. I doubt we were very atypical. Companies should really be more forthcoming about things like this. Even if ADV isn't really in trouble, rumors that they are could have a negative impact on their bottom line, resulting in them really being in trouble. What happens if people decide they aren't sure that ADV will finish releasing a new title, so they decide to hold off buying it until they're sure it'll be fully released? That could hurt sales enough for ADV's percieved troubles to become real troubles. I understand that there are some things that are trade secrets, but a bit more openess in business would only be a good thing.* If you're going to cancel a long standing project without giving reason, people are going to naturally assume the worst. *That doesn't just apply to anime companies.
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2008-01-29, 04:47 | Link #10 |
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Periodic culling of the business sector is usually a healthy thing... but a meltdown, bleh!
The diminishment of reliability and credibility just makes the hobby sector that much more important. ADV having "no comment" certainly didn't calm anyone. (still waiting for Geneon:Karin to be rescued by someone... )
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2008-01-29, 05:13 | Link #11 | |
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And while this website thing is a little bizzare, there is no reason to scream that the sky is falling. Most of these titles are pretty recent so that it could be something as minor as a database corruption/reversion to last year. (No idea why they would "No comment" that though.) |
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2008-01-29, 05:26 | Link #12 |
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Something else will be interesting, IMHO.
The Japanese studios can't be interested in seeing the R1 market collapse. Therefore, if the old licencing conditions (forced single releases, high upfront payment) don't work anymore, they will have to adapt, whether they want it or not. The licences will have to become cheaper and less restrictive. On one hand, this means that the budget for Japanese anime labels will have less cash in their pockets from foreign-language releases, which will also tighten their budget calculations for new shows ==> less shows with tighter budgets. On the other hand, I'd expect that this might help the transformation for other formats: Full-season "collector" releases for affordable prices. And maybe (hopefully) eventually download-to-own anime, just like no-DRM music mp3 sales are becoming more and more prevalent. Japanese management consists of what is probably the most conservative bunch in the world, but even they should eventually get to see the light of day. |
2008-01-29, 12:33 | Link #13 |
I'm a sucker for Harem
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I know that it shouldn't be alarmist, but
Pulling New titles from Site, Running 25 for $100 sale. ADV UK Shutdown Newtype Shutdown TAN Shutting parts down. No comment from ADV on Title drop. So I think I'd better stock up on ADV titles that I do not currently own.
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2008-01-29, 14:12 | Link #14 |
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I hope this doesn't happen, if it did then it would be nice if they finished up on there current series, would love to finish my Kanon collection, since only 1st volume is out atm would suck if they stopped production :/
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2008-01-29, 14:58 | Link #15 | |
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2008-01-29, 15:03 | Link #16 | |
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All anime companies had the 40% off sale 2-3 times a year. But only Genon and then ADV ever had the 25/100 and 10/50 sales.
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