2012-11-15, 16:30 | Link #381 | |
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But to answer your question, nothing is happening to Naruto. Just like the last two years, the fall season is filler season. Fillers are a necessary evil that is needed for reasons that have been explained a thousand times and then some. |
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2012-11-22, 06:43 | Link #385 |
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So yeah, this was the best filler episode that there ever was, at least as far as production quality goes. Some really high profile animators involved and some really good fighting scenes. Too bad the episode slowed down in the second half to follow the story of a couple of kids no one cares about, but it's definitely worth watching for the first half.
Next week's episode looks great, too. |
2012-11-22, 11:22 | Link #387 |
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Finally some Naruto, but seems like it's just a filler again.
Doing some random mission... I can't say it was bad watching a usual Naruto-on-a-mission. It was more nostalgic and reminded me of the old days. At least the enemy was pretty good and connected to the current war. The second part was sort of a story of its own..
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2012-11-22, 14:43 | Link #388 |
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So we have 5 no name fodder edo tensi plus Hayate a mere special jounin and Hidan (who at least is good for fun and fluid fight scenes) for the good guys to beat so that's good at least.
The reason we get so many fillers in Naruto is that for the first 2 arcs (kazekage rescue and Sai & Sasuke) they tried slowing the pace and it was HATED in Japan so they sped it up starting with the Hidan and Kakazu arc but had to start using filler lots and lots of filler. Here's an example kazekage rescue arc 37 chapters and 32 episodes Sasuke defeating Orochimaru to Pain arriving outside Konoha 76 chapters and 36 episodes (excluding filler) It is after all easier to skip filler epidoes than padding within canon episodes afterall. One last thing, why is a waterfall ninja wearing a konoha style flak jacket with the symbol for Uzushiogakure rather than a waterfall flak jacket? |
2012-11-22, 15:11 | Link #389 |
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^ And Deidara. If the other zombies got out, they'd have zero chance. 8 Zombies and Kabuto are still too much for Team 7 since Naruto doesn't have KM yet.
So Tsunade is awake, but Kabuto still looks human. Good luck trying to find out when this was suppose to take place. So Kakashi, Shikamaru and Gai will be backup. You knew they were going to have Shikamaru face Hidan again. |
2012-11-22, 15:24 | Link #390 | |
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2012-11-22, 15:55 | Link #391 |
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What did I just watch?
The first half was seemingly cannon but aired of sequence. It almost feels like one of the movies. Second half comes along and it might as well be a different series. In the end I liked the episode, but the continuity is all screwed up. |
2012-11-22, 16:26 | Link #392 | |
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Here we go again....
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2012-11-22, 20:17 | Link #394 | |
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Unfortunately, the guy that "ruined" Naruto vs Pain had nothing to do with this episode (he directed and animated the latest ED all by himself, though!). And by the way, it's not one guy that makes or breaks an episode. Lots of people work on a single episode, and the most important roles are generally split between different people. Here's some information for you. The director/storyboarder for today's episode was Toshiyuki Tsuru. He's directed episodes 17, 19 and 48 of the original Naruto series, and episodes 82, 85, 123 and 166 of Shippuden. He's also directed most of the Naruto/Shippuden openings, plus some endings. He's also the guy who is writing this mini filler arc, which is a first. The animation director for today's episode was Hirofumi Suzuki. He's the animation director of choice for Tsuru's episodes/OPs/EDs. You don't see him anywhere else as far as Naruto goes. Key animators for today's episode include Norio Matsumoto (a fighting animation legend, you must have heard of him), Shingo Yamashita (one of the most unique animators in the industry right now, did the recent Shin Sekai Yori ending), Hiroyuki Yamashita (the best of the Naruto in-house animators, really good at action too) and Tokuyuki Matsutake (an animation veteran, you pretty much only see him on Toshiyuki Tsuru's episodes as far as Naruto goes). There is no sign of Atsushi Wakabayashi, the guy who was director, animation director and did the storyboard for the Naruto vs Pain episode you hated so much. Norio Matsumoto and Shingo Yamashita were actually 2 of the 4 key animators that animated the Naruto vs Pain episode, but they did a much smaller part on today's episode. Last edited by neshru; 2012-11-23 at 09:43. |
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2012-11-23, 22:32 | Link #396 |
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That Naruto vs Pain episode still had some incredibly good drawings (mainly during the last part, the Norio Matsumoto one). I think the sketchiness was more of a result of Shingo Yamashita's style (he did the first part) and possibly of Kenichi Kutsuna's style (the did the part in the middle) than an actual will to leave things sketchy for the sake of the animation.
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2012-11-24, 11:29 | Link #397 |
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This episode was very much like a movie, and it will be about as long as one of the movies when you figure the length of the episodes. It should be interesting to see what questions it answers between after Pain and Kabuto's immense power jump.
I should also comment on last week's episode. I liked the sweet ending between Omoi and Ringo. |
2012-11-24, 13:59 | Link #398 |
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Based on the recent posts in this thread i watched the filler episode and i hope they'll use this quality of animation for the real story too. The best parts of the war will come and it would be annoying if they screwed it up with crap animation after they showed us in this episode what they are capable of if they really care about an episode. The filler story seems to be acceptable even if there are some stupid parts in it. For example why would Konoha let Naruto go on a mission when they clearly know that akatsuki is after him. Then we have some dumb moves from Naruto too, he just attacked Kabuto mindlessly instead of thinking of a plan, he should have some clone hidden nearby which is collecting natural energy in the next episode. One thing that would totally ruin this filler is if the guy who beat Pain is dumbed down both in power and mentally. I hope if they have quality of animation that means they have a decent filler story for once.
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2012-11-24, 21:12 | Link #399 | ||
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In the end it's not like Naruto was acting particularly out of character, so I don't see the problem. I'm cool with Rasengan attacks out of nowhere when they look bad-ass like this. |
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