Japanese Culture

[ZephyrLeanne]

Originally Posted by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

Spoiler for answer:

How did Shanghai become 沪? Seriously??

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This is derived from Hu Du (沪渎), the name of an ancient fishing village that once stood at the confluence of Suzhou Creek and the Huangpu River [Shanghai was set up along its banks] back in the Tang Dynasty.

[bhl88]

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[Autumn Demon]

A translator note from Dennou Coil stated this:
"In Japan, every evening, each member of the family takes a bath in the same water, in a specific order."
Please tell me this isn't true or that it's rarely practiced.

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by Autumn Demon

A translator note from Dennou Coil stated this:
"In Japan, every evening, each member of the family takes a bath in the same water, in a specific order."
Please tell me this isn't true or that it's rarely practiced.

In Nagano, perhaps, where access to water is diffucult? Otherwise, no. Living in Kobe for 8 months of the year, I don't think so. We take showers to start with. You want to reuse the water? How? Pump it back into the water pipe??

[LeoXiao]

Originally Posted by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

In Nagano, perhaps, where access to water is diffucult? Otherwise, no. Living in Kobe for 8 months of the year, I don't think so. We take showers to start with. You want to reuse the water? How? Pump it back into the water pipe??

You can store it in buckets and use it to flush toilets, but that only works if you take a bath...

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by LeoXiao

You can store it in buckets and use it to flush toilets, but that only works if you take a bath...

^^ In big cities, like Tokyo, Yokohama, Nagoya, Osaka, Kobe and Fukuoka, showers are moe popular.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by Autumn Demon

A translator note from Dennou Coil stated this:
"In Japan, every evening, each member of the family takes a bath in the same water, in a specific order."
Please tell me this isn't true or that it's rarely practiced.

No no no..... they don't "take a bath" .... they take turns soaking in the same tub of hot water *after* they clean up using a shower unit, soap, shampoo, while sitting on a stool. They don't get into it without being clean. The shower unit might be a western unit or just a small space next to the bath.

Watch just about any anime with a trip to a public bath. Roughly the same thing happens in many homes -- just on a very small individual scale. The tub is for soaking, not bathing/cleaning. Refilling a tub of relatively clean water is just a ridiculous waste of water.

[Autumn Demon]

Which leads me to another question:
Is chlorine used in bath houses?

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by Autumn Demon

Which leads me to another question:
Is chlorine used in bath houses?

That's swimming pools, in bath houses, they use bath salts and the occasional sulfur.

[ZephyrLeanne]

Originally Posted by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

That's swimming pools, in bath houses, they use bath salts and the occasional sulfur.

^^ Which reminds me of the time the Tokyo government found that many bath houses were falsely naming themselves hot spring baths when they were using bath salts and sulphur.

[FateAnomaly]

Originally Posted by Vexx

No no no..... they don't "take a bath" .... they take turns soaking in the same tub of hot water *after* they clean up using a shower unit, soap, shampoo, while sitting on a stool. They don't get into it without being clean. The shower unit might be a western unit or just a small space next to the bath.

Watch just about any anime with a trip to a public bath. Roughly the same thing happens in many homes -- just on a very small individual scale. The tub is for soaking, not bathing/cleaning. Refilling a tub of relatively clean water is just a ridiculous waste of water.

Hmm wouldn't the water be cold?

[ZephyrLeanne]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

Hmm wouldn't the water be cold?

^^ Whoops, you mean the dipper bath? Yes, it's meant to be freezing. No, really, it has to be cold.

[RandomGuy]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

Hmm wouldn't the water be cold?

Japanese bathtubs that I've used (or at least the ones designed for a family rather than an individual) have a special mechanism that reheats the water if need be after it's cooled off. Dunno what they did before such technical innovations became commonplace, though.

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Japanese bathtubs that I've used (or at least the ones designed for a family rather than an individual) have a special mechanism that reheats the water if need be after it's cooled off. Dunno what they did before such technical innovations became commonplace, though.

^^ Hm. Well, I guess this isn't something I will understand since I take showers most of the time. Not a bath; I wonder how you get clean after being surrounded by your own dirt?

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by FateAnomaly

Hmm wouldn't the water be cold?

not really, the tub has always been designed from who knows when so the water can be re-heated.
The system is quite simple you have a sub-section connected to the main tub. The sub section is a mini boiler where heat is applied for the water to be heated up.
The warm water flows into the main tub and you'll always have a warm tub as long as you turn on the heat.
Heat source of the past was wood later to be replaced by natural gas.
By the way a normal house equiped with their own bath tub only got popularized in the late 60's and early 70's before that it was usually the public bath house.

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

not really, the tub has always been designed from who knows when so the water can be re-heated.
The system is quite simple you have a sub-section connected to the main tub. The sub section is a mini boiler where heat is applied for the water to be heated up.
The warm water flows into the main tub and you'll always have a warm tub as long as you turn on the heat.
Heat source of the past was wood later to be replaced by natural gas.
By the way a normal house equiped with their own bath tub only got popularized in the late 60's and early 70's before that it was usually the public bath house.

Wouldn't that mean moving the tub ONTO the wood stove? Man... that's gotta be heavy.

[Tri-ring]

Originally Posted by kyon.haruhi.suzumiya

Wouldn't that mean moving the tub ONTO the wood stove? Man... that's gotta be heavy.

???
The tub was stationary with it's own dedicated stove.
There were some interesting offshots like the Goemon buro. Which is nothing more than a overgrown pot.


This is a Goemon buro

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

???
The tub was stationary with it's own dedicated stove.
There were some interesting offshots like the Goemon buro. Which is nothing more than a overgrown pot.

Oh, right. I forgot there was a platform to get into the tub. And that leaves a space for the stove.

[Tri-ring]

This is a typical present day bath tub system.



Notice the small box installed on the otherside of the wall. That is the boiler and water flows freely between the main tub and boiler through the connecting tubes.
This is the basic design of Japanese bath tubs for homes.

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

Originally Posted by Tri-ring

This is a typical present day bath tub system.



Notice the small box installed on the otherside of the wall. That is the boiler and water flows freely between the main tub and boiler through the connecting tubes.
This is the basic design of Japanese bath tubs for homes.

I suppose it can act as a room heater as well?