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Marina2 · 2010-03-06, 12:11

Being a person who bad at science, reading this topic gave me a headace.

(Just look at those words.......)

There are many things that I confuse......please answer these questions.

1. Even His ability can "Auto-reflect" he an determine what he want/doesn't want to reflect right?

2. Normally, he doesn't set his ability to re-direction the light??? because if he did everyone will see him as "the black human shape" walking in the town. (so a "surprise" light attack may work on him...)

3. Can you give examples:
3.1 Which functions if his ability are automatic?
3.2 Which functions of his ability need to calculate?

I heard that Accelerator can't re-direction the magic like index's [Dragon breath] because it out the law,and he can't calculate how to reflect it. In this point why his ability isn't work automatically? This is the most confuse thing for me. It seems sometime he needs to calculate to reflect ,but sometime doesn't

- Can he make his ability work in many way at the same time? for example: if he face with many attack types at the same time which each of them require different calculation to guard, will he able to survive from that? (those attack may be some esper ability, just assume that there are something like that)

P.S. The author is very creative person. How did he think out the ability that its function is very basic (just re-direction) yet very strong at the same time.

Nya~n · 2010-03-06, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Marina2

P.S. The author is very creative person. How did he think out the ability that its function is very basic (just re-direction) yet very strong at the same time.

if the author is anything like ZUN, then the answer is LOTS OF ALCOHOL.

Seihai · 2010-03-06, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Marina2

1. Even His ability can "Auto-reflect" he an determine what he want/doesn't want to reflect right?

Yeah.
For example he could take a bath (contact with water) but still would be able to reflect a bullet if someone came in shooting at him.
I don't think he has problems with determining what to auto-reflect and what not.
But while sleeping I think he puts his reflection against everything in case someone decides to ambush him.

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2. Normally, he doesn't set his ability to re-direction the light??? because if he did everyone will see him as "the black human shape" walking in the town. (so a "surprise" light attack may work on him...)

Well, in the Last Order arc he mentioned he reflects all excessive UV light, hence he doesn't need pigments anymore.
That's the reason his skin and hair looks white / pale.

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3. Can you give examples:
3.1 Which functions if his ability are automatic?
3.2 Which functions of his ability need to calculate?

Excluding magic and Dark Matter, I think he doesn't need to calculate anything.
His auto-reflect should be a passive function fending off all kinds of vectors.
An active use of vector manipulation would make him start calculating, example is the time he overwrote Last Order's virus.

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I heard that Accelerator can't re-direction the magic like index's [Dragon breath] because it out the law,and he can't calculate how to reflect it. In this point why his ability isn't work automatically? This is the most confuse thing for me. It seems sometime he needs to calculate to reflect ,but sometime doesn't

Magic has different laws than Science, and because it is a rather unknown side to Accelerator, it should be hard for his auto-reflect to do all the work, depending on how the spells work.
So he needs to calculate the spells to add them to his filtering out of vectors.
The con of this is that there's a chance he gets taken out before knowing how the attacks work or simply can't reflect them (Toma's case).
I honestly don't like to put Accelerator against magic though, gets too complicated.
All we need to know is that he's a kickass ESP who likes to spare brain flesh of people who even use 'unknown' attacks. :P

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- Can he make his ability work in many way at the same time? for example: if he face with many attack types at the same time which each of them require different calculation to guard, will he able to survive from that? (those attack may be some esper ability, just assume that there are something like that)

Well, his ability is to manipulate vectors (which is overpowered because it's a rather generic thing), I don't think he still needs to calculate when a bunch of ESPs go against him. There aren't many abilities which aren't involved with vectors.
But in case he decides to do microcospic work which eats up a lot of his calculation abilities, he becomes vulnerable as you can see.

MrTerrorist · 2010-03-06, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Nya~n

if the author is anything like ZUN, then the answer is LOTS OF ALCOHOL.

I don't think so since the author created the series when he/she was around 14 years old.

tsunade666 · 2010-03-07, 01:26

is the author a girl or guy?

As for what accelerator needed to calculate to redirect. The sure one are magic and dark matter and he doesn't need to recalculate the power of the " railgun " while in dust explosion he said that he almost got toast despite the fact that their are no scratch. So I can say that he usually redirect an object that comes after him with a certain speed or exceed that speed will be redirected and the power behind it too. If it exceeds his initial settings then he needs to reconfigure it for it.

Seihai · 2010-03-07, 13:24

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

is the author a girl or guy?

No proof but I read that the author is female.

tsunade666 · 2010-03-08, 07:20

I also head she's a female and when she start writing it with the age of 14.

LastResolve · 2010-03-08, 20:32

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I heard that Accelerator can't re-direction the magic like index's [Dragon breath] because it out the law,and he can't calculate how to reflect it. In this point why his ability isn't work automatically? This is the most confuse thing for me. It seems sometime he needs to calculate to reflect ,but sometime doesn't

he cant redirect certain magic attacks that are unkown to him for example Innocentius is made of flames so it wont be a big deal for accelarator

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I also head she's a female and when she start writing it with the age of 14.

the novel writter is called kamachi Kazuma i think the one that illustrated the series is a girl but i aint sure

Miraluka · 2010-03-08, 21:18

Kiyotaka Haimura is the illustrator of this series.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-09, 06:54

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Originally Posted by LastResolve

he cant redirect certain magic attacks that are unkown to him for example Innocentius is made of flames so it wont be a big deal for accelarator

Not yet anyway, but if my theory is correct, he can update his power with the laws of magic. Assuming it's like the same as updating his power to include Dark Matter's unknown laws of physics.

tsunade666 · 2010-03-09, 07:33

but he needs first to see it first hand or better got hit. Learning it through your body is the best way. Like being hit by killer sun rays. Though it will takes some time to update ones AIM field. But if he goes black wings mode it will be an ease.

Marcus H. · 2010-03-09, 07:38

I think the only one who can beat Accelerator is Vento. 'Nuff said.

tsunade666 · 2010-03-09, 08:03

what vent? your overestimating Accel. Anyone in the god's right seat can beat accel.

AlaAlba · 2010-03-09, 08:08

yeah

I realy looking forward for the author to make him meet one of the magician.

no esper have fight magician so far, no?

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-03-09, 08:19

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

what vent? your overestimating Accel. Anyone in the god's right seat can beat accel.

Surely you can't include Terra of the Left

Miraluka · 2010-03-09, 09:26

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Originally Posted by AlaAlba

no esper have fight magician so far, no?

Far I know, the remaining sister in A.C. against Aqua; their attacks were useless and then thet got pwned. In the SS the again the sisters got pwned by the almost god magician Aurrelus, and in the same SS the 7th Level 5 Gunha Sogiita fought him, althought he was powerful lost very easy.

AlaAlba · 2010-03-09, 09:47

oh? SS 1? that sounds interesting. "lost very easily"

giorno · 2010-03-09, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Not yet anyway, but if my theory is correct, he can update his power with the laws of magic. Assuming it's like the same as updating his power to include Dark Matter's unknown laws of physics.

well, black wing accel should be able to update magic like he did with dark matter...the problem with dragon's breath is that if he's hit, he won't have a chance to update it into his redirection

also, i don't think accel can do anything about angelic magic and the likes...we'll see if he ever gets to fight fiamma...

tsunade666 · 2010-03-09, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Surely you can't include Terra of the Left

even though I hate to say this but I add that scum. Even though he likes to do dirty works and precisely because his like a cheating old man that he will be included. And its not like his magic is weak. His also strong but just a scum old man and he got ended up fighting touma.

giorno · 2010-03-09, 12:47

mmm...i don't know as much as you do about Terra or accelerator, but i think Terra shouldn't stand much of a chance against awakened accelerator, unless he can include accelerator's power in his magic?

on the other hand, pre-awekening accel(volume 3, so to speak) likely would get slaughtered by Terra...

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AlaAlba ... Join Date: Jan 2008	yeah I realy looking forward for the author to make him meet one of the magician. no esper have fight magician so far, no? Last edited by AlaAlba; 2010-03-09 at 08:20.

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Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Being a person who bad at science, reading this topic gave me a headace. (Just look at those words.......) There are many things that I confuse......please answer these questions. 1. Even His ability can "Auto-reflect" he an determine what he want/doesn't want to reflect right? 2. Normally, he doesn't set his ability to re-direction the light??? because if he did everyone will see him as "the black human shape" walking in the town. (so a "surprise" light attack may work on him...) 3. Can you give examples: 3.1 Which functions if his ability are automatic? 3.2 Which functions of his ability need to calculate? I heard that Accelerator can't re-direction the magic like index's [Dragon breath] because it out the law,and he can't calculate how to reflect it. In this point why his ability isn't work automatically? This is the most confuse thing for me. It seems sometime he needs to calculate to reflect ,but sometime doesn't - Can he make his ability work in many way at the same time? for example: if he face with many attack types at the same time which each of them require different calculation to guard, will he able to survive from that? (those attack may be some esper ability, just assume that there are something like that) P.S. The author is very creative person. How did he think out the ability that its function is very basic (just re-direction) yet very strong at the same time.

2010-03-07, 01:26	Link #125
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	is the author a girl or guy? As for what accelerator needed to calculate to redirect. The sure one are magic and dark matter and he doesn't need to recalculate the power of the " railgun " while in dust explosion he said that he almost got toast despite the fact that their are no scratch. So I can say that he usually redirect an object that comes after him with a certain speed or exceed that speed will be redirected and the power behind it too. If it exceeds his initial settings then he needs to reconfigure it for it.

2010-03-08, 07:20	Link #127
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I also head she's a female and when she start writing it with the age of 14.

2010-03-08, 21:18	Link #129
Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Kiyotaka Haimura is the illustrator of this series.

2010-03-09, 07:33	Link #131
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	but he needs first to see it first hand or better got hit. Learning it through your body is the best way. Like being hit by killer sun rays. Though it will takes some time to update ones AIM field. But if he goes black wings mode it will be an ease.

2010-03-09, 08:03	Link #133
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	what vent? your overestimating Accel. Anyone in the god's right seat can beat accel.

2010-03-09, 09:47	Link #137
AlaAlba ... Join Date: Jan 2008	oh? SS 1? that sounds interesting. "lost very easily"

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giorno Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	mmm...i don't know as much as you do about Terra or accelerator, but i think Terra shouldn't stand much of a chance against awakened accelerator, unless he can include accelerator's power in his magic? on the other hand, pre-awekening accel(volume 3, so to speak) likely would get slaughtered by Terra...