2012-01-18, 20:34 | Link #301 | ||
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I'm usually pretty lenient about lolicon fanservice. I frequently give shows the benefit of the doubt over whether they were trying to be cute or sexual. And I've also elected not to complain about shows with significantly more lolicon fanservice like Ro-Kyu-Bu! or Astarotte's Toy because these shows are so tongue-in cheek about it. I saw nothing in this show that raised either defense: if the creators were intending the miu fanservice to be cutesy or tongue in cheek rather than sexual, they certainly failed to get that across. Sora's older so the fanservice of her doesn't really bug me on an age basis. But the portrayal of her obsession with Yuuta comes across as somewhat too crass and perverted, rather than cute or touching (as with Tomoka in Ro-Kyu-Bu! and a few others). I should not that I don't necessarily blame this just on the fanservice though. I actually thought that Yuuta seeing her in her underwear worked just fine despite her being cliched, since it has the potential to make her even more embarassed about her already awkward attraction to him. But the sum of her portrayal as a whole makes her attraction to an older guy feel crass compared to similar attractions seen in other shows. Maybe the staff just isn't very good with plot and character development, as I don't think they handled the plot twist well either. Quote:
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2012-01-18, 20:40 | Link #302 | |
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And no, I assure you it will not go into that territory.
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2012-01-18, 21:02 | Link #303 | |
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2012-01-18, 21:14 | Link #304 |
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One thing I want to say: People who think that there needs to be immediate reaction need to realize that many times the grief comes much later. While I haven't read the novels, I can guess that we'll be dealing with the grief issues further down the road. Therefore.....
Let's wait one or two more episodes before we go with the bad execution debates. |
2012-01-18, 22:00 | Link #305 |
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After people missing, their relatives always hope that their friends or family that were in an accident are ok or atleast alive. It probably hits the viewer harder to see immediately a funeral, which means that the hope of any survival has been destroyed.
So in short, i don't think it was a bad transition. |
2012-01-18, 22:18 | Link #306 |
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@hyl
It is hard to accept that... Until the bodies are recovered...I'm going with my Tom Hanks Cast Away mindset. The funeral still makes sense, because it is the more likely ending of the plane crash. But in the novel synopsis and all, it never once mentions the parents are dead. It says 行方不明, which is just "missing" I'm still hoping one or both of them come back... |
2012-01-18, 22:23 | Link #307 | |
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edit: forgot to mention that i haven't read the novels. Also i won't deny that they could have survived it (for a happy end), but that would be quite a miracle. Realistically i don't think many people survive plane crashes. (although it depends on when the plane crashed though) |
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2012-01-18, 22:26 | Link #308 | ||
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Of course there will be grief. Much like how his sister struggled to raise him, he will be struggling to support three kids. Quote:
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2012-01-18, 23:36 | Link #312 |
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dj- and others covered me already, plus it's getting out of hand to continue arguing on others' beliefs, reason has no place there. What I really would like, is to stop posting in the anime thread seeing 10 post after each episode about how outraged someone is with fan-service, as you call it. I and others stopped referencing another show here and took it into a social group... do the same, create the "anti-H witch-hunters", you can bash as much as you want shows there without insulting people who disagree, since discussion is not taking place here on this subject.
Now whether the show turns out as Rotte, we'll see... Rotte diverged a lot from the manga both thematically and plot-wise, and honestly I liked both, but for completely different reasons. PapaKiku can forget the heart-warming atmosphere of these two episodes animeting prequel of the manga and turn into an ecchi comedy or continue with the same mood... we'll see until the end of the month how it turns out. |
2012-01-18, 23:50 | Link #313 | |
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Of course, that scene can still come later, in a flashback. Or they may have other reasons for skipping it. I've not yet made up my mind. |
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2012-01-19, 01:05 | Link #314 | ||||
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OK. Creators show fanservice of these girls, not because it's sexually objectifying them in any way, but because it is the most perfectly natural thing to do. I know I tend to be overly cynical at times, but really ? Quote:
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2012-01-19, 01:41 | Link #315 | ||
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In some posts you come across as someone who is articulate and shows good line of thoughts. And then in some of your other posts you are just coming across as severely dismissive and judgmental. In my very humble observation, I think you should tweak your approach just a tiny bit cause you are certainly capable of it. To get us back into the topic, the preview already gives indication to the aftermath of the loss. I also found it amusing how the relative was announcing the fate of each of the three sisters. When it came to older sister, he almost paused for a second before continuing as if to cue in a drumroll before damning her to boarding school.
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2012-01-19, 01:48 | Link #317 | |
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There's nothing sexually objectifying in any part of the show, or at least I don't see it. Except for some comparisons with a certain porn anime through looks, I'm appalled some people can even find any.
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2012-01-19, 02:06 | Link #318 | |
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I know somewhere some blogger is typing review for this episode with : "Meh! forced drama!" or "Meh! aneshotaincestfanservice"
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I with you! It is not show or object that dirty, but thought Lets pray to Lady Bernkastel
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2012-01-19, 02:06 | Link #319 | |
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As for episode 2, couldn't get enough of Hina being so cute >.< Just went "DAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW" while watching this But WTF Yuuta, playing serious against a little girl >.> The ending really caught me by surprise, wasn't expecting this kind of development. I thought this was going to be lighthearted comedy but now it's going to be interesting how the story moves from here. Taking care of just one kid itself would be pretty demanding, I hope Yuuta has learned a lot after living all those years together with his sister after their parents passed away and is mentally tough enough for this challenge. Also expecting Raika to play a big role in their lives.
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2012-01-19, 02:09 | Link #320 | ||
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