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hyl · 2012-07-30, 17:13

The content of the Harvey Dent act was revealed online almost 1 month before the movie was released as an advertisment or teaser for the movie.

Just google for "harvey dent act".

kenjiharima · 2012-07-30, 22:06

The one thing I wanted to extend more is how Bruce Wayne got back in Gotham without being detected and his spine healing process. He was in that pit about 5 months. Those prison doctors are damn good.

Sumeragi · 2012-07-30, 22:15

The doctor is the one who did surgery on Bane. I think that explains everything.

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-07-30, 22:16

I also had the impression that prison wasn't anywhere near America, hell the building you could see when he climbed out looked like the near or middle east or something. He did pretty well getting back with no passport, money, or clothing.

Sumeragi · 2012-07-30, 22:19

He had experience during his years of wilderness before he joined the League of Shadows.

Haladflire65 · 2012-07-30, 22:24

Also, someone mentioned that Bruce had a dislocated vertebrae, not a fully broken spine which would kind of have been harder to repair. Apparently that's what they actually do in real life with those, push it back into place (but less forcefully I guess?). I was a bit confused about that at first, wondering if Nolan made a blunder there, but I can accept that explanation. A lot of people's answers to how Bruce got back to Gotham was "Because he's the goddamned Batman"

Mr Hat and Clogs · 2012-07-30, 22:27

Still, he would have had to get money, forge a passport, and catch a plane. Sure he could have stole clothing, but stealing a few thousand for a ticket and a passport seems a bit much, maybe he just hid in the luggage compartment for 18 hours. Maybe the League has some underground transport system setup to ferry people around, or maybe he teleported. Point is though it seemed a little easy for him to get back. It would have been easier to believe if the prison was some old place outside of Gotham (cause it's got enough relics for it to be there).

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-07-30, 22:45

Also, both Bane and Batman are trained by the League of Shadows for years, right? So, they’re basically ninjas (or even more). Yet, when they fight, they only do a little more than blocks, jabs, elbows and upper-cuts (plus they're slow imo). With that kind of fighting skill, an action star like Bruce Lee or Jet Li will be more than enough to kick their assess

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Sumeragi · 2012-07-30, 22:51

Batman: Wears armor
Bane: Needs drugs to keep his pain down, which also makes him a bit sluggish

Probability: Both Lee and Li will most likely be defeated, since they cannot either break through the armor or are simply overpowered.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-07-30, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Batman: Wears armor
Bane: Needs drugs to keep his pain down, which also makes him a bit sluggish

And that’s the problem. With that thick layer of armor, Batman is near “not special”. He doesn’t have enormous power and his ninjutsu skill is heavily reduced by all the armors and cape he wears.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

Probability: Both Lee and Li will most likely be defeated, since they cannot either break through the armor or are simply overpowered.

Lee & Li won't be defeated if their slow opponent can never land a hit

. They'll figure something out while avoiding their lumbering enemies

.

Sumeragi · 2012-07-31, 00:00

I'm not going to bother too much, but I'll say that both Lee and Li will probably wear out first before they defeat Batman/Bane.

HasuMasu · 2012-07-31, 00:03

Well if you still have doubts...

Spoiler for Under the Red Hood:

dukenukem · 2012-07-31, 00:12

I was disappointed with the way poor bane just gets outed by catwoman.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-07-31, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detective-san

Well if you still have doubts...
*snip*

Det-san, I’m not talking about animated-Batman or comic-Batman, but TDKR-Batman. I’m well aware that animated & comic Batman is super-agile and ninja-like. Still, in TDKR, outside from his gadgets and little use of martial art skill, he’s just an (old) dude hindered by heavy armor and cape.

HasuMasu · 2012-07-31, 00:36

^ Batman is only as strong as the universe needs him to be.

And in the case of Nolan's universe, it doesn't need much.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2012-07-31, 01:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detective-san

^ Batman is only as strong as the universe needs him to be.

And in the case of Nolan's universe, it doesn't need much.

Yet you gave me a video example from the animated universe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detective-san

Spoiler for Red Hood vs Batman:

Anh_Minh · 2012-07-31, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyl

The content of the Harvey Dent act was revealed online almost 1 month before the movie was released as an advertisment or teaser for the movie.

Just google for "harvey dent act".

My point was that Gotham was supposed to need Batman. Turns out, all they needed was to be a bit tougher on crime.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2012-07-31, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

My point was that Gotham was supposed to need Batman. Turns out, all they needed was to be a bit tougher on crime.

Every city can rise, or fall, in a day. It just rarely happens due to inertia.

kenjiharima · 2012-07-31, 01:35

The one thing again that surprised me that his legs are healed and didn't he didn't need a cane anymore or a bionic leg brace to get out.

HasuMasu · 2012-07-31, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Yet you gave me a video example from the animated universe?

Yes exactly, now there is the discrepancy.

Here we see that in the animated universe an over-the-top fight is required...and that's what we get.

Now in the Nolanverse such is not needed...or even practical, so it's not there.

That says less about Batman and more about whichever universe he's in.

2012-07-30, 22:06	Link #642
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	The one thing I wanted to extend more is how Bruce Wayne got back in Gotham without being detected and his spine healing process. He was in that pit about 5 months. Those prison doctors are damn good. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2012-07-30, 22:16	Link #644
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	I also had the impression that prison wasn't anywhere near America, hell the building you could see when he climbed out looked like the near or middle east or something. He did pretty well getting back with no passport, money, or clothing. __________________

2012-07-30, 22:24	Link #646
Haladflire65 Senior Member Artist Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Normandy SR-2 Age: 29	Also, someone mentioned that Bruce had a dislocated vertebrae, not a fully broken spine which would kind of have been harder to repair. Apparently that's what they actually do in real life with those, push it back into place (but less forcefully I guess?). I was a bit confused about that at first, wondering if Nolan made a blunder there, but I can accept that explanation. A lot of people's answers to how Bruce got back to Gotham was "Because he's the goddamned Batman" __________________

2012-07-30, 22:27	Link #647
Mr Hat and Clogs Did someone call a doctor Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 40	Still, he would have had to get money, forge a passport, and catch a plane. Sure he could have stole clothing, but stealing a few thousand for a ticket and a passport seems a bit much, maybe he just hid in the luggage compartment for 18 hours. Maybe the League has some underground transport system setup to ferry people around, or maybe he teleported. Point is though it seemed a little easy for him to get back. It would have been easier to believe if the prison was some old place outside of Gotham (cause it's got enough relics for it to be there). __________________

2012-07-30, 22:45	Link #648
Obelisk ze Tormentor Black Steel Knight Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indonesia	Also, both Bane and Batman are trained by the League of Shadows for years, right? So, they’re basically ninjas (or even more). Yet, when they fight, they only do a little more than blocks, jabs, elbows and upper-cuts (plus they're slow imo). With that kind of fighting skill, an action star like Bruce Lee or Jet Li will be more than enough to kick their assess . __________________

2012-07-30, 17:13	Link #641
hyl reading #hikaributts Join Date: Feb 2009	The content of the Harvey Dent act was revealed online almost 1 month before the movie was released as an advertisment or teaser for the movie. Just google for "harvey dent act".

2012-07-30, 22:15	Link #643
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	The doctor is the one who did surgery on Bane. I think that explains everything.

2012-07-30, 22:19	Link #645
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	He had experience during his years of wilderness before he joined the League of Shadows.

2012-07-30, 22:51	Link #649
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Batman: Wears armor Bane: Needs drugs to keep his pain down, which also makes him a bit sluggish Probability: Both Lee and Li will most likely be defeated, since they cannot either break through the armor or are simply overpowered.

2012-07-31, 00:00	Link #651
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	I'm not going to bother too much, but I'll say that both Lee and Li will probably wear out first before they defeat Batman/Bane.

2012-07-31, 00:03	Link #652
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	Well if you still have doubts... Spoiler for Under the Red Hood: YouTube https://youtu.be/Os3VkJzsCVg Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2012-07-31, 00:12	Link #653
dukenukem bleach fan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: desert of arizona Age: 41	I was disappointed with the way poor bane just gets outed by catwoman.

2012-07-31, 00:36	Link #655
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	^ Batman is only as strong as the universe needs him to be. And in the case of Nolan's universe, it doesn't need much. __________________

2012-07-31, 01:35	Link #659
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	The one thing again that surprised me that his legs are healed and didn't he didn't need a cane anymore or a bionic leg brace to get out. __________________ Vampire+Sisters