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Which is quite displaced, since he puts everyone in the same lot.
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2012-08-31, 19:02 | Link #102 |
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Just hope this debacle ends soon, people learn their lesson, the show goes on, and the producer's mom's dog's favorite neighbor (or anyone remotely related to this incident) won't turn out to be a target of hate and boycott.
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Indeed...why isn't Oonuma and co doing some damage control? They are too good for them to deserve getting any unwarranted backlash like this
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2012-08-31, 19:57 | Link #104 |
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I'll be curious to see the actual sales figures regardless of that Amazon graph. Things like this can sometimes have exactly the opposite effect of what is expected. People might buy the show just because it has become notorious. This event might even increase KC's long-run value as a collector's item, or at least its perceived value at the moment.
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2012-08-31, 20:37 | Link #106 | |
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Could this have been stupidity as well? The thought that "any publicity is good publicity" and that somehow this would actually help Ichiki? Yeah, that's stupid, but then I've seen a lot of stupid stuff done by people trying to break into show business, I've even seen a lot of stupid stuff work for breaking into show business. Might a combination of "it will get him publicity," "stupid stuff like this makes you memorable," combined with a lower awareness for the damaging effect when it's not yourself going through the humiliation leading to someone thinking this was a favor? (A favor in which you also got to indulge your sadist side). It's hard for me to credit, but as I always remind myself, never underestimate the power of stupidity.
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2012-08-31, 21:34 | Link #107 | ||
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They pulled the prank because they figured they could get away with it. The producers and fellow seiyuu pegged Ichiki as a naive fool who'd go along with their abuse because he's clueless (as Kikuchi put it, a a hopeless person who's so easy to manipulate because he's desperate to be in the industry and doesn't realize that he'll never make it). The idea was to thoroughly humiliate him and then watch in glee as he went through with their instructions without refusing or fighting back. And they were right. They nearly got away with it, but something unforeseen (Tomokazu Sugita's reaction to the incident on his radio show) happened............ |
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2012-08-31, 21:40 | Link #108 | |
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As for the publicity thing well they say there is no such thing as bad publicity. I am not sure how Ichiki feels and I am not going to try to speculate. It's possible this might help him in the long run (it's getting him name recognition. Looking at his roles he is probably not a seiyuu people paid much attention to previously). But even if this might help his career in the long run, I don't think that takes away from the fact that he was publicly humiliated and made fun of by his peers/colleagues in the business. If good comes out of this then I don't think that takes away from the bad. They are separate in my mind. Now for it being an elaborate scheme to boost his career to begin with. I personally don't think so because the whole thing was very quiet at first. It only came out fairly recently.
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2012-08-31, 22:17 | Link #111 | |
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2012-09-01, 01:16 | Link #115 |
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Sugita's actions seriously remind me of Gin from Gintama, though the latter would no doubt give Terashima a kick in the ass rather than a mere cold shoulder.
Anyway, this whole incident has increased my respect for him. I think it's safe to say not many famous seiyuu would stand up for a much less popular seiyuu in this manner (cold shoulder and all)
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2012-09-01, 01:31 | Link #116 |
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And that "PR job" they just threw on him? Apparently he has to pay out of his own pocket for his expenses, no funding. Have fun going from Tokyo to Hokkaido out of your own money.
Sugita OTOH proved just how awesome he is. Here's to hoping this incident won't affect Tokyo Encounter, though. I prefer my wisecracking Sugita while playing obscure games.
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2012-09-01, 03:43 | Link #118 | |
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So it was Sugita that tweeted this whole incident out or a fan heard his radio...
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2012-09-01, 03:43 | Link #119 |
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This incident reminds me of a similar one that happens 2 years back and it involve the same parties. :-
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201010/28035135.html Basically it happened on a promo event for the anime adaption of Onii-chan no Koto nanka Zenzen Suki Janain Dakara ne!! hosted by Kitamura, Ichiki and Yamanaka. In the midst of the event, Yamanaka made a sudden announcement to revealed some recorded lines that borders on the likes from Eroge and H-anime which Kitamura and Ichiki didn't expected. Ichiki's lines take the blunt with them going "You had not even start to play Doctor And Nurses with your big brother here !" and "I just want to see how a naked girl is like !" boardcasting on a crowded street. Because this incident survive without people batting an eyelid, they decide to try something even harder hitting. That is how things comes to a head now. And I must say something about the Japanese mentality being reflected here. Like what a poster said a few pages back, a junior cowering to someone his senior, regardless of the amount of humiliations he must take is something expected in the Japanese society. It's fine as long as it is kept hidden, only when things get blown up like now did they try to mend fences. Too late for that. And I don't see things getting better when all these are over. Last edited by MakubeX2; 2012-09-01 at 03:54. |
2012-09-01, 03:50 | Link #120 |
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It's pretty much the same in entertainment industries around the world, be it in singing, acting, hosting, modelling, etc. Every budding artist goes through all sorts of incidents before they become famous.
I remember one of the top Taiwanese celebrities related how he was forced to pose with a live octopus on his head in front of a studio audience on a show that was also broadcast live to thousands of viewers. |
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