(L) Girls und Panzer

[EagleBlue]

I have to give props to the Leopon team, they actually did maintenance their Tiger while moving.

[Myssa Rei]

Oorai's best option really is to make a break for it. They don't actually have to face

Spoiler for You know what:

the Maus

(remember, this is a Flag match, not Annihilation), and trying to fight it will just delay them in that area long enough for the rest of Kuromorimine to catch up.

[Tak]

KMM's secret weapon gives the term barely legal a whole new meaning...

- Tak

[Panzerklein]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

First one is a modern fake, second one does not have enough blueprints for replication.

It's just a joke, why so serious .

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Tak

KMM's secret weapon gives the term barely legal a whole new meaning...

- Tak

Spoiler for Legal:

Well, it's technically completely legal: Ever since we got the translations for the Senshado rules, we've known that the Maus is well-within the limits of Senshado use since it had a working prototype that was completed in 1944, well beyond the time and engineering limit for vehicles in Senshado. The surprise was that they actually had the gall to add it in here

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Panzerklein

It's just a joke, why so serious .

I am always serious.



I wish that someone made the E-50. Now THAT would have been perfect.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Panzerklein

It's just a joke, why so serious .

Sume is obviously not the joker, duh

- Tak

[arkhangelsk]

OK, watching the thing now on a 640x360 rip. My thoughts as follows.

Spoiler for Big Master Spoiler:

OK, very long list.

Spoiler for 02:05:

I was right, and Oarai is indeed past the CPA of the ambush by the time Erika clipped something and they are forced into a clumsy pursuit. Wonderful ambush, Maho. Let's see if you did do something right next.

On the screen, we see they have a Tiger I, 2 Tiger IIs and at least 8 Panthers. Tank #12 and onwards are conveniently clipped off the screen.

Spoiler for 03:00:

We finally see how Miho is going to use the smokescreen. The only thing I have to complain about it is, Miho, you could have saved a lot of tanks in previous battles if you had used those smoke generators before. Erika, the dumbsh*t doesn't even realize the purpose. For a school that supposedly prides itself on its hardcore martial values, Nishizumi sure doesn't teach about the historic value of smoke on the battlefield.

Spoiler for 04:00:

OK, this is clever, dragging the Porsche Tiger along... in the smoke too.

Spoiler for 04:20-04:48:

Nice smokescreen there, the same one you see in the PV

Spoiler for 05:00:

Maho has her tanks fire along a barrage line ... to no real effect, of course.

Spoiler for 05:22:

We finally see the Hetzer hiding in some bushes... and immobilises 2 tanks. Obviously, they learn something from the Pravda fight and this time withdraw clean.

Spoiler for 06:02:

By now, with astounding speed, Oarai tanks find themselves in their defensive positions... and only Maho seems to have any inkling what's happening

Spoiler for 07:34:

Maho, apparently starting to worry that her tanks are going to somehow lose the firefight despite them having a lot more effective guns, decides to move up a Jagdtiger.

Spoiler for 08:11:

Erika, when you say that, do you realize that if you aren't encased in a King Tiger, your team might well be dead already?

Spoiler for 09:40:

It is said that the advantage of Germans tanks is that they had superior situational awareness with their radio and 5-man turrets. KMM is not using these advantages.

Spoiler for 09:54:

One of the KMM platoon commanders is Alice-lite.

Spoiler for 10:05:

KMM tanks, you need to stay calm. The Hetzer cannot shoot you yet. Why are you rushing things?

Spoiler for 11:21:

Maho can't get her line in order, and Oarai escapes.

Spoiler for 12:00:

Yeah, the Auto Club is really an entire series of unspoken awesomes in this story. Getting five rusted out tanks into operational condition within one night, modding, and now for the first time they get their on-screen Moment of Awesome doing on-the-run repairs...

Spoiler for 12:22:

Obviously, the authors understand Erika is horribly unpopular and give this embarassment to her.

Spoiler for 12:26:

We hear something interesting. All these heavy vehicles are supposed to be anti-Pravdan. A historical shout-out, but do you really need all that many Panthers and King Tigers, when what you really need to do is handle the ones you have better?

Spoiler for 12:44:

At this point, most of the KMM tanks still seem to be in disorder, far away off screen.

Spoiler for 14:00:

There is no need to get into a flashback yet, Miho. This time there really is plenty of time to get out of the tank in the worst case.

Spoiler for 15:20:

Well, it is not always obvious, but Miho can be quite the athlete when she wants to be.

Spoiler for 16:18:

Oh, among many of Yukaris military-related skills - using the coincidence rangefinder...

Spoiler for 16:52:

Perhaps, Erika. Let's see if you can make use of their naivety.

Spoiler for 17:03:

Obviously, Maho has had it with her tank commanders' limitations and resorts to directing a particular tank to do the engagement. At least the gunner does get a near miss.

Spoiler for 18:30:

The Porsche Tiger's great weight is used, for once, to advantage...

Spoiler for 19:27-19:58:

Oh, yeah, there is a Pz III and Oarai really never learns in some ways. Sigh.

Spoiler for 20:37:

Yeah I know, Yukari. I know it is very touching for a tank otaku to see a Maus moving around almost with the slightest bit of agility. Now think about what you are supposed to do.

Spoiler for 21:49:

A 128mm/55 gun is no match for the protective power of the "carbon lining".

Spoiler for 22:39:

Amusingly, they start doing that song in Battle of the Bulge. What's its name?

By the end of the show, Oarai pulls some impressive moves while KMM confirms my impression of being a much-overrated team that depends on its heavier vehicles for any success. They mustn't be allowed to win.

[Zaku_II]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

I am always serious.



I wish that someone made the E-50. Now THAT would have been perfect.

Spoiler for Spoilers:

But the E-100 is the way to defeat the Maus

[Myssa Rei]

arkhangelsk: It's Panzerleid, however it's NOT the one from the OST, as it's missing the clapping. Here instead we get a lot of foot-stomping. Equally good though.

[willx]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

OK, watching the thing now on a 640x360 rip. My thoughts as follows.

Spoiler for Big Master Spoiler:

OK, very long list.

Spoiler for 02:05:

I was right, and Oarai is indeed past the CPA of the ambush by the time Erika clipped something and they are forced into a clumsy pursuit. Wonderful ambush, Maho. Let's see if you did do something right next.

On the screen, we see they have a Tiger I, 2 Tiger IIs and at least 8 Panthers. Tank #12 and onwards are conveniently clipped off the screen.

Spoiler for 03:00:

We finally see how Miho is going to use the smokescreen. The only thing I have to complain about it is, Miho, you could have saved a lot of tanks in previous battles if you had used those smoke generators before. Erika, the dumbsh*t doesn't even realize the purpose. For a school that supposedly prides itself on its hardcore martial values, Nishizumi sure doesn't teach about the historic value of smoke on the battlefield.

Spoiler for 04:00:

OK, this is clever, dragging the Porsche Tiger along... in the smoke too.

Spoiler for 04:20-04:48:

Nice smokescreen there, the same one you see in the PV

Spoiler for 05:00:

Maho has her tanks fire along a barrage line ... to no real effect, of course.

Spoiler for 05:22:

We finally see the Hetzer hiding in some bushes... and immobilises 2 tanks. Obviously, they learn something from the Pravda fight and this time withdraw clean.

Spoiler for 06:02:

By now, with astounding speed, Oarai tanks find themselves in their defensive positions... and only Maho seems to have any inkling what's happening

Spoiler for 07:34:

Maho, apparently starting to worry that her tanks are going to somehow lose the firefight despite them having a lot more effective guns, decides to move up a Jagdtiger.

Spoiler for 08:11:

Erika, when you say that, do you realize that if you aren't encased in a King Tiger, your team might well be dead already?

Spoiler for 09:40:

It is said that the advantage of Germans tanks is that they had superior situational awareness with their radio and 5-man turrets. KMM is not using these advantages.

Spoiler for 09:54:

One of the KMM platoon commanders is Alice-lite.

Spoiler for 10:05:

KMM tanks, you need to stay calm. The Hetzer cannot shoot you yet. Why are you rushing things?

Spoiler for 11:21:

Maho can't get her line in order, and Oarai escapes.

Spoiler for 12:00:

Yeah, the Auto Club is really an entire series of unspoken awesomes in this story. Getting five rusted out tanks into operational condition within one night, modding, and now for the first time they get their on-screen Moment of Awesome doing on-the-run repairs...

Spoiler for 12:22:

Obviously, the authors understand Erika is horribly unpopular and give this embarassment to her.

Spoiler for 12:26:

We hear something interesting. All these heavy vehicles are supposed to be anti-Pravdan. A historical shout-out, but do you really need all that many Panthers and King Tigers, when what you really need to do is handle the ones you have better?

Spoiler for 12:44:

At this point, most of the KMM tanks still seem to be in disorder, far away off screen.

Spoiler for 14:00:

There is no need to get into a flashback yet, Miho. This time there really is plenty of time to get out of the tank in the worst case.

Spoiler for 15:20:

Well, it is not always obvious, but Miho can be quite the athlete when she wants to be.

Spoiler for 16:18:

Oh, among many of Yukaris military-related skills - using the coincidence rangefinder...

Spoiler for 16:52:

Perhaps, Erika. Let's see if you can make use of their naivety.

Spoiler for 17:03:

Obviously, Maho has had it with her tank commanders' limitations and resorts to directing a particular tank to do the engagement. At least the gunner does get a near miss.

Spoiler for 18:30:

The Porsche Tiger's great weight is used, for once, to advantage...

Spoiler for 19:27-19:58:

Oh, yeah, there is a Pz III and Oarai really never learns in some ways. Sigh.

Spoiler for 20:37:

Yeah I know, Yukari. I know it is very touching for a tank otaku to see a Maus moving around almost with the slightest bit of agility. Now think about what you are supposed to do.

Spoiler for 21:49:

A 128mm/55 gun is no match for the protective power of the "carbon lining".

Spoiler for 22:39:

Amusingly, they start doing that song in Battle of the Bulge. What's its name?

By the end of the show, Oarai pulls some impressive moves while KMM confirms my impression of being a much-overrated team that depends on its heavier vehicles for any success. They mustn't be allowed to win.

Can't wait to see this episode, although I will be very disappointed if KMM truly displays such operational incompetence. Maho "should" have firm command of her troops and if she doesn't that is quite a shame.

[Gravitas Free Zone]

I would say that KMM resorting to the [spoiler] would actually increase the chances of Ooarai being given, at the minimum, the moral victory, even if they lose the actual finals match.

I mean, there's the "unspoken rule" and then there's... this.

[arkhangelsk]

Maho did about two things right in this whole episode.

Spoiler:

One, she brought the Maus. Their team needs it though they shouldn't.

Two, she manages to predict Miho will eventually run into the city and places the Maus there.

And that's it.

[willx]

Originally Posted by Endless Knackwurst

I would say that KMM resorting to the [spoiler] would actually increase the chances of Ooarai being given, at the minimum, the moral victory, even if they lose the actual finals match.

I mean, there's the "unspoken rule" and then there's... this.

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

Maho did about two things right in this whole episode.

Spoiler:

One, she brought the Maus. Their team needs it though they shouldn't.

Two, she manages to predict Miho will eventually run into the city and places the Maus there.

And that's it.

Hm, this looks more and more likely that it's setting it up for a combo Pyrrhic and Moral victories for the respective teams..

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

By the end of the show, Oarai pulls some impressive moves while KMM confirms my impression of being a much-overrated team that depends on its heavier vehicles for any success. They mustn't be allowed to win.

Having not seen it yet: My guess is that they're bringing TOO much when compared to the usual layout. The large TDs are supposed to be for defense and long-range engagement, which really isn't what you can do against a small team. Seems like Maho had been under pressure to bring out the full inventory which the team itself is not used to.

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

Maho did about two things right in this whole episode.

Spoiler:

One, she brought the Maus. Their team needs it though they shouldn't.

Two, she manages to predict Miho will eventually run into the city and places the Maus there.

And that's it.

Spoiler for Some stuff hammered out via research and helpful /A/:

Actually the Maus being at the city makes a bit of sense, since historically the thing is SO HEAVY that it wouldn't be able to properly maneuver on rough terrain, which is to say anywhere that wasn't paved over. It was too heavy for any of the bridges built during the time, and needed a custom-made rail line to transport.

See this article on the matter.

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by willx

Hm, this looks more and more likely that it's setting it up for a combo Pyrrhic and Moral victories for the respective teams..

Spoiler for Yep:

To give you an idea just how bad things were, the whole Kuromorimine team barring Maho and Erika panics when the Hetzer drives and PARKS in their line. They PANIC. And the Hetzer wasn't even aiming at them, it just parks parallel to their tanks as they were climbing the hill to attack Ooarai's dug-in position. You could pretty much HEAR Maho facepalming.

[EroKing]

[Gravitas Free Zone]

Originally Posted by TheEroKing

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something something my eyes are up here something something And Darjeeling could use some sunscreen.

[Myssa Rei]

Oh, hey, Katyusha actually says something interesting this episode:

Kuromorimine's heavies are their trump cards against Pravda.

What the HECK does Pravda have that requires THIS monster? IS-3s? ISU-152s? IS-7s and 8s?!?