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View Poll Results: Higurashi Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 33 | 46.48% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 30 | 42.25% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 8.45% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 1.41% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.41% | |
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2006-09-07, 11:33 | Link #21 | |
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2006-09-07, 12:52 | Link #22 | |
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2006-09-07, 13:27 | Link #23 | |
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21 episode, Rika said herself, that she is able to talk to Oyashiro-sama. |
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2006-09-07, 13:49 | Link #24 |
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Wasn't Rika already dead in episode 21? Maybe you mean 20 when she said she can hear Oyashiro-sama's voice? And she might be able "talk" to him in her head or just hear his voice, which is common enough among people certain mental disorders. I just doubt Oyashiro-sama is the person she is talking to in that tip.
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2006-09-07, 14:09 | Link #25 | ||
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2006-09-07, 14:27 | Link #26 |
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I didn't mean that Rika is crazy for sure but I suspects her talks with Oyashiro-sama are either in her thoughts or like a dialogue with himself. after all, we have heard her talk like Oyashiro-sama to Akasaka and to Shion after the injection (with the voice of Midori from Mai-HiME ). If Oyashiro-sama can possess Rika, what's the point of appearing in some "real" form in that tip? Oyashiro-sama crying just doesn't seem right. Although he might be saddened by the loss of his avatar. AARGH, this tip is killing me!
P.S. You'd be amazed how many wannabe prophets are complete lunatics.
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2006-09-07, 14:46 | Link #27 |
Gomen asobase desuwa!
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Oh how tragic this series does not get to Minagoroshi. It would answer ALL of your questions regarding that TIPS.
Fortunately, we won't spoil anything until the anime is finished. After that, we'll decide to let it all out (or not) in a separate thread. Perhaps a Q&A type of thing where me, LostBlue, and Sushi-Y will answer three questions IN THROUGH DETAIL (3 x 3 = 9 answers in total, and that's it.). Choose your questions wisely (i.e.: redundant questions like "was that Satoshi in the bag?" will be a waste because of someone failing to read the TIPS), cause three questions each, that's it and the thread will be locked. Weird questions like "just give me all the details" does not count. www Last edited by kj1980; 2006-09-07 at 14:58. |
2006-09-07, 14:51 | Link #28 | |||
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2006-09-07, 16:03 | Link #29 |
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I think an important question here is: Who is Frederica Bernkastel?
I suggest reading the Message from Frederica Bernkastel in the poems section. I'm not sure who has noticed yet or not how close the name "Frederica" sounds to "Furude Rika". However Frederica herself said that she is neither Rika nor Oyashiro-sama. What I think may be liikely is that Rika does have two identities, neither of which are Oyashiro-sama. One is our cute and innocent "Ni-pah" Rika and the other is Frederica Bernkastel. Frederica would be the mature/serious/cynical one with memories of other arcs, and all the TIPS that seem to be from Rika's point of view would actually be from Frederica's point of view. Oyashiro-sama could then be an entirely different presence that is trying to work with Frederica towards a happy outcome. |
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2006-09-08, 03:58 | Link #32 |
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I have to say, with lesser shows getting shorter (or longer) second seasons, Higurashi would have to be close to top of the list in getting its last two major arcs animated in a short tv followup or oav. At least, from a deserving pov.
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2006-09-12, 02:02 | Link #34 |
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I just signed up here because after having played/read the sound novel #6, ep22/23 so far have angered me beyond belief and made me hate Studio DEEN and their awful story decisions even more than I had before from other shows.
I have never seen an adaptation of anything in my entire life that was so disgraceful to the original source material and that was so painful to watch. >_< I can't believe they are getting away with this bastardization of the original sound novel and I wonder how the doujin creators feel about this. If I were them I'd probably want to publically seperate myself from the anime, much like what happened with the film version of The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. If they realized they couldn't fit the story in the amount of eps they had, they should have just made their own ending up or given more time to the other arcs while doing #6 in a seperate OAV or series. At this point there's no way to fix it and that's just extremely disappointing. In the novel, the later events in ep23 were built up so well in terms of both plot and understanding of the characters and why they would act the way that they did, that the major scene in the ep brought me to tears when I read it in the novel and was one of those scenes that will leave a strong impression for years. Yet in the anime it was a joke and everything in 22/23 had skipped around so much there was zero emotion and it was just pointless. Oh and the art in the episode was beyond awful. Seriously some of the worst faces I have seen in anime. Guess they felt like the script wasn't a big enough insult to the fans so they had to go further. I hate Studio DEEN |
2006-09-12, 02:55 | Link #35 | ||
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For one, I don't think Ryukishi07-san would complain: it's a rare honor for a doujin game to be animated in the first place, I don't think he's going to be picky about it. For original fans like us, it's certainly disappointing when we see memorable scenes/events in an anime adaptation rushed or skipped, but it's really an unavoidable thing. Deen chose to focus on the "suspense/horror" aspect of the novel scenarios, and sacrificed everything else. Perhaps it would've been better if they only did one or two scenarios and sacrifice no plots? Maybe they should've considered the importance of the game's memorable music tracks and used those instead? Maybe they should've just stuck to believable facial expressions instead of making our characters do all those annoying face warps? The anime certainly don't do the game justice, but think about it this way: if it weren't for the anime, most people here probably wouldn't even know about the existence of this series. It's ok to complain about how an episode messed up on this and that (I do it all the time), but it's nothing to hate the animation studio for (Deen's F/sn anime wasn't too bad, for example). |
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2006-09-12, 17:38 | Link #38 | ||||
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But with all the stuff on fast-forward in this arc and the limited 5 EP bench-mark someone thought was enough for the "final" arc to the anime (that's in itself was quite stupid for one of the longest chapters), DEEN isn't doing that bad. Despite cutting 90% Kei's and Rena's speech and they did a fairly good job covering the points. So far this arc seems like reviewing the chapter on bullet points. What angers me about the anime is the animation. There's no excuse for that beyond budget. DEEN is capable of produce "cleaner" sakugas but this anime on the whole... then they give people supernatural strength & powers & elastic faces that distract from the story. *sigh* I mean just sub-contracting the animation to [whatever horrid company did this EP] isn't what gets me. But when the "added" things distract from the series that's really disappointing. But I do love DEEN for picking it up. I never heard of the series until then. Now to fax this entire forum to Kyo-Ani's desk 誰か、英語読める人いますか?いいえ じゃ、捨ててきなさい はぁぃ~ Quote:
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2006-09-12, 18:39 | Link #39 | |
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Also, I noticed the first 2 DVDs have been released in Japan. Do they fix up any of the animation at all? |
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2006-09-13, 16:34 | Link #40 |
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You know, when I read the Favorite Wine TIPS a second time, I noticed the person speaking said something about a burnt corpse. Takano? Then it mentions that young children shouldn't drink... And speaking of which, I've noticed that Tomitake and Takano are the two people that die every arc, at least, they're believed to be dead. Well, actually, Tomitake usually dies, and Takano gets burned/disappears. Rika and Takano are working together? She is suspicious. But that doesn't seem right...
Anyway, about the episode itself. I gave it a 9. I've realized the solution in this series with any family problems you have: Kill people that are causing it. Yep, murder is always your best solution. |
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