2012-06-11, 23:09 | Link #1201 |
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Ryuumonbuchi didn't even make it to the finals in the previous year's tournament. There's no actual reference in the manga to Teru and Koromo having ever played against each other--I believe the one statement mentioning the both of them said by an announcer in one chapter some time ago was a mistranslation.
For the record, here's what we know about Ryuumonbuchi's performance the previous year: they made it up to the semi-finals, but got stopped by Rinkai in the Vice-Captain round. Ryuumonbuchi were in third when Touka awakened into her "Cold Touka" mode/ability, freaking the player in Rinkai's Vice-Captain spot, Megan Davin, out; enough so that she purposely knocked out the school in last place (i.e. taking them below zero, and ending the match) to halt her rampage. Koromo, accordingly, didn't even get to play. I personally think Koromo would make a good match for Teru. At least, even considering any other "monsters" we've seen since the prefectural finals, Koromo still seems the closest to Teru to me in terms of sheer dominance over the board, and aura. |
2012-06-11, 23:10 | Link #1202 |
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Thats because while Ryuumonbuchi was defeated, and Teru still kicked her around like an old soccer ball in their match, Koromo STILL had the highest point total accumulated for the entire tourney. The first series mentions this fact repeatedly (MVP this and MVP that).
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2012-06-11, 23:16 | Link #1203 | |
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It'd make more sense for Koromo to have not gotten a chance to play in National either by the previous 4 team members winning before Koromo was needed ahd/or Ryuumonbuchi lost before Koromo's turn.
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2012-06-11, 23:17 | Link #1204 |
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Ahh so thats why she still has no friends...(Until that "Rinshan user"(a.k.a Saki) shows Koromo what is tanoshii Mahjong all about. )
Back on episode 8, Teru's ability has something to do with increase points get.(A.k.a the fu and the han) The mirror somehow makes it such that she knows what the other 3 are doing. By using the mirror ability, she can find out their weakness and like Rei said, kick them like old soccer balls. Ask yourself this. Will you get proud when you get MVP?(Answer this and I will tell you why I ask this question.)
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2012-06-11, 23:22 | Link #1205 |
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Bottom Line: If Koromo lost - then she had no right to parade around "unbeaten".
As far as I am concerned, Saki was the first person who beat Koromo and turned Koromo around by inducing her with a heft dose of "tanoshii". Quite frankly, Koromo couldn't find friends because she made opponents miserable. Off the top of my head, I can't cite which episode - but I'll point to episode 19 for starters. Oh wait, maybe even Hajime's flashback in episode 12 (?). I'd treat it as a consolation -- after getting my ass beaten. MVP doesn't mean squat if you don't win.
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2012-06-11, 23:23 | Link #1206 | |
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Before that, have a Innovator Geass. Spoiler for ep 9:
I will quote the suggestions from me and Triple_R's 12th suggestion when a new episode airs.
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2012-06-11, 23:28 | Link #1207 |
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Saki is generally well-written, imo, but I guess it's not immune to the odd plot hole.
Yeah, Koromo making such a big deal out of Saki beating her is hard to understand if Koromo got beat by Teru before. I suppose it could be the means of defeat in both cases - Saki's epic comeback was the stuff of magic, whereas perhaps Teru simply steamrolled Koromo from the 2nd hand to the final hand. Edit: Maybe Saki was the first person to defeat "Full Moon" Koromo? Maybe Teru defeated a Koromo with, er, less advantageous weather conditions, so Koromo didn't think as much of it.
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2012-06-11, 23:31 | Link #1208 |
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Nowhere in the anime is it mentioned that Koromo was unbeaten during the Nationals. Indeed there are only a few things known about her stint in the Nationals -- that she had the highest point score, she was prone to high-value hands, and she won by her special move only ONCE.
Plus, this is Teru. Koromo playing prior to Saki made people miserable, Teru destroys the dreams of the people she plays against. I can't speak for the manga of course, as its kind of hard to browse with office filters in place, ahaha. Triple_R: Touka says as much in the anime -- the prefecturals for that year was the first time Koromo was playing at "full power" as it were. An alignment of favorable conditions, for sure.
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And no one knows what will happen if Koromo faced Teru but, Koromo needs it to be night with a full moon to use most of her abilities like her "no tenpai field" and "haitei". She can still use haitei a bit without the full moon power but its not that effective which is why when Koromo curb stomped Shizuno, Touka said that it wasn't even half of Koromo's true power considering it was noon at that time. Before the prefecture no one knows Koromo's true power since Koromo has not yet played during a full moon on official tournament. Its mentioned that this did not happen in the previous nationals or prefecturals which is why Kana who played Koromo previously and Yumi who researches everything got blindsided by Koromo's strength. Quote:
The thing is I have a feeling that there is two tournaments a year. One of it would be the Spring prefecture tournament and Summer national tournament and the other would be perhaps the Winter cup or whatever tournament wherein there will be changes in the rosters since the seniors can't participate due to graduation. I have a feeling this still unnamed tournament is where Senriyama got bumped into number two position... Quote:
Koromo might be able to do something but Teru is vanguard so Koromo can't play Teru at her full power so no Iishanten Hell. To be honest the only person that was implied to have managed to hang in there with Teru was Saki herself, considering whenever they played Saki got consistent +/- zero against her family. Its technically not winning but considering that most of Teru's opponents seems to be racking negatives against her leaving the table with the points you started with is a plus point.
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2012-06-11, 23:46 | Link #1211 |
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night_sentinel: Was mostly going by memory of the anime here, so there's bound to be inconsistencies, and I do remember that Ryuumonbuchi only watched the finals, but I also recall that Fujita-pro specifically mentioned Teru and Koromo playing against each other. Somewhere around chapters 55-60 of the manga perhaps, during the four-school training camp?
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2012-06-11, 23:50 | Link #1212 | |
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2012-06-11, 23:52 | Link #1213 | |
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Spoiler for manga mistranslation:
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2012-06-12, 00:16 | Link #1215 |
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I'm going to now share something admittedly a bit silly with you guys.
I've often compared Saki to pro wrestling because it often has that same pro sports entertainment magic feel to it. Not to mention many 80s/90s pro wrestlers seem to have these superpowers going for them. Here's some comparisons that those of you familiar with late 1980s to early 1990s WWF might get a kick out of. Otherwise, please skip over it, as the Saki/Hulk Hogan comparison is probably all you'll get. Spoiler for Saki/WWF comparison:
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2012-06-12, 00:21 | Link #1216 |
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Well. Of course. While the mahjong events within this series are within the realm of possibility - by virtue of being legal with the rules -- the odds of them happening are about slim-to-none. Because of that, these supposed scenarios are encapsulated within these character personalities and linked within their "abilities". Then make it all flashy!
With that, these characters and their "abilities" are pitted against one another in a fictional ALL OUT DEATHMATCH BRAWL. Now on PPV! EDIT: Btw, I don't watch WWF. XD EDIT:
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2012-06-12, 00:31 | Link #1217 |
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you probably know this already but..
(天)江 衣 Amae Koromo 宮永 (照) Miyanaga Teru (大)星 淡 Oohoshi Awai (神)代 小蒔 Komaki Jindai 天 照 大 神 天照大神 Amaterasu. The Japanese Sun Goddess All of the following people have been said to be monster class
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2012-06-12, 00:46 | Link #1219 | |
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I know I haven't really posted in this thread, so this will seem completely random, but... well, I just can't resist.
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*e* I can't believe I forgot to mention you forgot something, Triple_R... Spoiler for Saki/WWF:
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2012-06-12, 00:51 | Link #1220 |
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Btw, thats the reason why Toki never sleep with the head facing Ryuuka.
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