Persona 4

[I-Love-Konata]

Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

Something I noticed?

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Yeah, Souji changes his Persona the same way as Elizabeth. As opposed to Minato's simple "fragments fly from the head" switching...

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That is because Minato is the Wild Card with all the Personas and Souji is not.... Or so that's what I think....

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by I-Love-Konata

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That is because Minato is the Wild Card with all the Personas and Souji is not.... Or so that's what I think....

I think it just boils down to different styles of summoning and switching persona. I don't think the creators were trying to make anything special out of Souji's style being similar to Elizabeth's style of switching personas

[DragoonKain3]

I personally wouldn't look too much into it, considering other models have been reused as well. It was just Atlus's way of getting the game out faster, since they could just copy/pasta a lot of the stuff in P3 onto P4 and save themselves money/time from making them all from scratch.

[MeganeShounen]

Just defeated the Secret Boss a while ago...

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Yep. Margaret's HP is insanely high, and when she casts Megidolaon or heals herself, all her resistances are set to Strong.
Fortunately, she does that just once.

Her battle pose is pretty cool too. Floating in the air, with various Persona cards floating around her.
Heck, even Rise had to admit that Margaret looked fabulous.
(Also, LOL @ Rise asking Souji on where he met such a person... ahh, jealousy?)

[I-Love-Konata]

Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

Just defeated the Secret Boss a while ago...

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Yep. Margaret's HP is insanely high, and when she casts Megidolaon or heals herself, all her resistances are set to Strong.
Fortunately, she does that just once.

Her battle pose is pretty cool too. Floating in the air, with various Persona cards floating around her.
Heck, even Rise had to admit that Margaret looked fabulous.
(Also, LOL @ Rise asking Souji on where he met such a person... ahh, jealousy?)

I remember how my friend and I agreed that Margaret will spawn out many many P4 doujins ever since we activated the Empress Arcana.. "I am interested in you" lol

[Shadow Kira01]

It would be so much more epic if..

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Considering that P3's secret boss battle, P4 MC will now be using Elizabeth, her sister's method of summoning personas, so wouldn't it be better if Margaret uses an evoker to summon a persona? Then again, this won't make much sense since the ones in Trinity Soul don't use cards or evokers to summon their personas.

Then again, I wouldn't know how Margaret summons her persona, since I still haven't played P4 since I last lost to Ameno-sagiri 2 weeks ago. *facepalm*

[Oppius]

I know this is an off-topic but I would love to see how the Persona 5 (maybe on PS3 or XBOX 360) may look like someday and I have few suggestions for it.

Main Setting:

No longer set in Japan. Its not I hate Japan but I think Japanese cities and rural towns are overused in video games and of course, anime/manga. The fourth game has strong Japanese rural setting but I want more than that. The fifth game need to be set in rural town of Europe or North America like Canada, France, Germany or United States but my personal vote would be Canada because I never play any single game which takes place in that country despite being the second largest country in the world. I would love to see the fifth one takes place in a port town of Canada which is more colorful and livelier than previous games(with the capabilities of PS3 or XBOX 360 of course). The main problem using Canada(and any other countries that is NOT Japan) is the Japanese voice actors may not pronounce the English names and other terms correctly. Sorry if I offended any Japanese forumers here but this is what I learn from my experience.

Premises:

Very much like previous ones but this time you are no longer a high schooler. Instead you play as a college student. You also can choose gender of your MC would be and each gender, male and female, have different people they can meet in Social Links. Like the fourth one you can have part-time jobs but you you can quit the college and find a permanent job.

[MeganeShounen]

Implementing a two-gender choice for the Protagonist would probably take a lot of resources in the game, since there would be double the character design data.

It's probably possible to do it in a next-gen console though. With more interactive Commu Link experience.

[TobiaSR32]

Originally Posted by MeganeShounen

Implementing a two-gender choice for the Protagonist would probably take a lot of resources in the game, since there would be double the character design data.

It's probably possible to do it in a next-gen console though. With more interactive Commu Link experience.

Should they make P5, I think we just might see that.

[Crimrui]

I actually felt like playing P3 FES now after obtaining P4's true ending, but when I started I realized how friendship isn't strongly showed in it like in P4. That Junpei started to annoy me now which didn't happen before. Guess Yosuke had too much influence on me. =)

If they make a P5 I would definitely want to see a collage student and ending with a desired social link.

[I-Love-Konata]

Originally Posted by Crimson Cloud

I actually felt like playing P3 FES now after obtaining P4's true ending, but when I started I realized how friendship isn't strongly showed in it like in P4. That Junpei started to annoy me now which didn't happen before. Guess Yosuke had too much influence on me. =)

If they make a P5 I would definitely want to see a collage student and ending with a desired social link.

Junpei is nicknamed as Stupei after all

[Shadow Kira01]

I hope Persona 5 will have be a continuation of Persona 3 and Persona 4. As mentioned in P4 as to the whereabouts of the former Velvet Room assistant, shouldn't P5 have some sort of relation to that? The idea of making her the protagonist would be a bad idea since her personas were..strong?

Due to the fact that shadows are the manifestations of the people's negativities, the series can be continued as many times as possible, as long as there are enough funds to do so. It can also be sticked to the ps2 by utilizing dual-layer technology which some other game companies had came up with.

Originally Posted by I-Love-Konata

Junpei is nicknamed as Stupei after all

Actually, that's a pun added after the localization. It only works with English.

Originally Posted by Crimson Cloud

I actually felt like playing P3 FES now after obtaining P4's true ending, but when I started I realized how friendship isn't strongly showed in it like in P4. That Junpei started to annoy me now which didn't happen before. Guess Yosuke had too much influence on me. =)

If they make a P5 I would definitely want to see a collage student and ending with a desired social link.

The friendship between P3 MC and Junpei wasn't strong at all, if you consider "The Answer" as part of Persona 3.

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Junpei took the middle ground and was willing to fight both Yukari's team and Akihiko's team. If their friendship was strong, they wouldn't had the will and intention to fight each other over the idea of fighting Death a second time. Due to a weak friendship to start off with, they were not determined to fight Death a second time together because half of the members of SEES believed that the only reason why they won the battle against Nyx was because MC had sacrificed himself rather than them actually winning. The theme of P3 was death and survival.

In P4 however, things aren't the same. Both MC and Yousuke are from the city, while everybody else were Inaba residents to start off with. The city life is not the same as the urban village life as that things aren't the same in a variety of ways. More over, the P4 team had started working with each other because they are all students of the same school and had gained their powers through facing the false beliefs of others (Mayonaka TV; Midnight Channel). Originally, it was believed that the Shadow Self is the true self of a person and their true desires, but after the Namatame incident (hopefully, you didn't agree with Yousuke in murdering him to revenge the dead).. You would realize that things are not what it seems. The Midnight Channel is created through the thoughts of various people other than the individual whose Shadow has lost control or rather to say, the Shadow is the Self manifested by the thoughts and beliefs of people who know them. This is difficult to understand unless you head for the true ending path.

In P3, Mitsuru recruited members with persona abilities to resolve a problem caused by her grandfather. In P4, village teenagers gathered together, saving each other (everybody was tossed into the tv including MC except that MC saved himself due to his persona and sword whereas everybody else did not obtain a persona until facing their shadow self), building friendship, and facing off with a mysterious serial murder culprit with the objective to prevent more murders, as well as protect their little town from a hazardous mist. Under different circumstances, the situation is obviously different and thus, the relationship between the members are also different. In P3, it was like comrades working together whereas in P4, it is friends working together. The theme of P4 is friendship and insanity, which is different than P3's death and survival. Nonetheless, both games follow the tradition of the Shin Megami Tensei series' theme of darkness and post-apocalyptic.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Amex_Yohko

I know this is an off-topic but I would love to see how the Persona 5 (maybe on PS3 or XBOX 360) may look like someday and I have few suggestions for it.

Main Setting:

No longer set in Japan. Its not I hate Japan but I think Japanese cities and rural towns are overused in video games and of course, anime/manga. The fourth game has strong Japanese rural setting but I want more than that. The fifth game need to be set in rural town of Europe or North America like Canada, France, Germany or United States but my personal vote would be Canada because I never play any single game which takes place in that country despite being the second largest country in the world. I would love to see the fifth one takes place in a port town of Canada which is more colorful and livelier than previous games(with the capabilities of PS3 or XBOX 360 of course). The main problem using Canada(and any other countries that is NOT Japan) is the Japanese voice actors may not pronounce the English names and other terms correctly. Sorry if I offended any Japanese forumers here but this is what I learn from my experience.

Premises:

Very much like previous ones but this time you are no longer a high schooler. Instead you play as a college student. You also can choose gender of your MC would be and each gender, male and female, have different people they can meet in Social Links. Like the fourth one you can have part-time jobs but you you can quit the college and find a permanent job.

Do think it'd be nice for Canada to get something nice like this . Don't think anything good has been done with a Canadian setting. But of course it comes down to the people designing the game. If they don't know enough outside of Japan they probably don't want to do it and misrepresent the setting. Haven't minded the Japanese setting since they did a nice job with it in P4 especially. Besides for those living in cities the country is an alien setting no matter what country its based in .

If the gender was a choice they'd have to make it for a next gen system. Since you'd have to rewrite the dialogue for each one and there is a lot of dialogue in these kinds of games. Still it's not a bad idea. Besides while graphics aren't the most important thing it'd be interesting what they would do with a bit more power. Not to mention depending on the system might find space for multiple language options.

Still they've done a great job on the PS2 and might just stick with it.

[Shadow Kira01]

Which personas are needed to perform a backward fusion process to get Izanagi with a better skill set? Personally, I am looking forward to getting Izanagi with the following skills:

Brave Blade
Maziodyne
Elec Amp
Elec Boost
Absorb Wind/Null Wind

The other 3 skills would be bonus.

[DragoonKain3]

Yowzer... banking on getting exactly 5 out of 5 inheritance slots? I'm not denying it's impossible, but that's going to be highly improbable considering you're inheriting high ranked skills, and there's going to be bound some lower rank skills there that would act as noise.

And if you didn't know already, normal fusion of the same arcana results in a rank down. Thus, Yomotsu-Shikome + Ose (and every fool below him) should result in Izanagi. Only problem with this though is that you need all 16 skills between Yomotsu-Shikome and the other fool to be unique in order to get 5 inheritance slots.

And AFAIK, it's impossible to triangle fusion Izanagi, because of how triangle fusion is calculated.

That's also not going into how are you going to level up Izanagi to the point where he's actually useful...

[Oppius]

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[Shadow Kira01]

Originally Posted by Amex_Yohko

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Unbelievable!

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That's a very bad idea from creativity!

[MeganeShounen]

@Amex
Woah. Definitely not my thing.
I didn't like what they did to Yukiko and Risecchi....

[I-Love-Konata]

Originally Posted by Amex_Yohko

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Epicness that words cannot describe.. lol

[solarknight123]

Originally Posted by Amex_Yohko

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Wow I think I just nearly died of laughter!