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Old 2012-07-04, 00:46   Link #1
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[MANGA] Bleach Chapter 499 Discussion

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Welcome to this weeks discussion thread. Spoilers haven't been released just yet from what I can tell. But I'm making this thread a little early since I probably won't wake up by the time the chapter's available. So until spoilers have been released, feel free to speculate here until then.
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Old 2012-07-04, 05:53   Link #2
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Oooookay. Did not see that coming. Ransou Tengai cropping back up (It's been so long since we last saw it, but man, for people who don't know what it does, it's the best 'play dead only to fuck you up when you have your back turned' move I've seen in this series) was a good surprise. Good to see Kubo didn't forget the Quincy's 'basic' abilities. I can see Chad got fucked up pretty bad from the surprise attack and Urahara has a giant arrow sticking out his back too.

That Quincy is an excellent troll. I suspect the Ishidas will show up soon enough to help Ichigo seeing as they would probably be the ones with the knowledge to break him out in the first place.
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Old 2012-07-04, 06:03   Link #3
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Hopefully we'll see some Squad Zero action sooner than later
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Old 2012-07-04, 06:21   Link #4
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lots of talk .. about ... nothing really... just recapping on skills and abilities.
maybe i should start reading bleach monthly and save myself the heartache on a weekly base
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Old 2012-07-04, 07:54   Link #5
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for some reason blut reminds me of luffy's gear second.
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Old 2012-07-04, 08:05   Link #6
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Wait...isn't that the tunnel between dimensions where Ichigo trained with his dad? The one where time passes differently from the outside? Then wouldn't Ichigo have more time to break the cage?
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Old 2012-07-04, 08:28   Link #7
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it's okay guys, ichigo got this.
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Old 2012-07-04, 08:33   Link #8
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Wait...isn't that the tunnel between dimensions where Ichigo trained with his dad? The one where time passes differently from the outside? Then wouldn't Ichigo have more time to break the cage?
no, the dangai is the path between the real world and SS/Runkongai
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Old 2012-07-04, 08:56   Link #9
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I liked the thought Kubo put into his analysis of the Quincy abilities (who are the new Quincy? Shit Ritter? Something like that...), and finding out the number of dead/dying was nice (at least until Kubo decides to bring them all back or confirm that they are not dead but "resting").

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I liked the thought Kubo put into his analysis of the Quincy abilities (who are the new Quincy? Shit Ritter? Something like that...), and finding out the number of dead/dying was nice (at least until Kubo decides to bring them all back are confirm that they are not dead but "resting").
I think I've dumbed down my expectations so much that smallest explanation provided by Kubo when it comes to the mechanics/how abilities work and I feel like the chapter couldn't possibly be better.
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Old 2012-07-04, 09:20   Link #11
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So, a desperate suicide move to lock Ichigo into whatever it is and win some time? (since he definitely won't be able to lock him forever. Ichigo always has an option of going into deep meditation for months, and restoring his previous abilities. Over time, he'd be able to figure out not just how to get out of that cage, but out of the dimension as well, I guess.


Anyway. I doubt that one arrow is enough to mortally wound Urahara, aaand... that bankai-stealing metallic plate is in his hands as well. Which means, his enemy cannot steal his bankai


Crossing my fingers to see Urahara's bankai in nearest future.

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Old 2012-07-04, 09:30   Link #12
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It looks like Orihime's boobs have been injured! CALL IN ZERO SQUAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2012-07-04, 12:05   Link #13
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So, they tried to take Ichigo's bankai, but already knew that it was not possible. And, they had planned for Ichigo to go HC way before this...and then they planned to try and take his bankai there, but already knew they couldn't? -__-
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Old 2012-07-04, 13:11   Link #14
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I think I've dumbed down my expectations so much that smallest explanation provided by Kubo when it comes to the mechanics/how abilities work and I feel like the chapter couldn't possibly be better.
lol me too! what should have been just a filler chapter becomes a great chapter... kubo barely has to try now and the chapter is good, he's a genius! ...I think... wait what?

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So, they tried to take Ichigo's bankai, but already knew that it was not possible. And, they had planned for Ichigo to go HC way before this...and then they planned to try and take his bankai there, but already knew they couldn't? -__-
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I think it's interessting, that Urahara not only knows the Quincies techniques, but even the names they use.
How did he learn those?
stop finding plot holes in one of the 'better' chapters in a while

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It looks like Orihime's boobs have been injured! CALL IN ZERO SQUAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
no worries, nel's on 'em
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Woot! the awesomeness that is Urahara is returning to his Domain at last.(kubo finally realized that the only to save this manga is being giving Urahara more screen time?). it's about time we see THE man in action. I don't think they will be able to steal his Bankai either(Human gigai?)

Lol, Soul Society got trolled . no quick rescue for YOU. they aren't even ashamed that they have to go crying to Ichigo.

Ichigo will finally escape from cage thinking he was too late only to find out he traveled into the past. a few moments before the attack
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Old 2012-07-04, 16:33   Link #16
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I think it's interessting, that Urahara not only knows the Quincies techniques, but even the names they use.
How did he learn those?
Urahara entered Hueco Mundo right alongside Ichigo and his friends. He's been hiding with Nell's fraccion while watching the battle the entire time. And Kirge hasn't exactly been very quiet during the duel either. Kirge's openly stated names to every Quincy technique Urahara mentioned in his report with the exception of the bankai stealing device (which has no known name yet). In fact, Kubo was actually thoughtful enough to flashback to panels of previous chapters depicting the exact moments Kirge announced Vollstandig and Blut respectively. So kudos to Kubo for being thorough in that regard.
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Old 2012-07-04, 18:07   Link #17
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I liked the thought Kubo put into his analysis of the Quincy abilities (who are the new Quincy? Shit Ritter? Something like that...), and finding out the number of dead/dying was nice (at least until Kubo decides to bring them all back or confirm that they are not dead but "resting").
shit ritter? seriously?! i can't stop laughing! you actually praised and bashed kubo at the same time!
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Old 2012-07-04, 20:08   Link #18
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Grimmjow should be arriving soon.

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Old 2012-07-04, 23:01   Link #19
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Good, Ichigo stopped. Now let Zero squad enter the damn equation.
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Old 2012-07-05, 00:08   Link #20
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"strength more than captain level" - cue zero squad?

Re: Grimmjow, I think that editor interview pegged a likely comeback, but he's too weak of a character to do anything major vs the Quincy. Maybe he could help out Ichigo next chapter, yeah.
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