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naantje · 2004-09-12, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Enodu_2

Lack of social skills? Very true.

Give me a break. I was rushing this in because of fucking Last of the Uchiha. If I actually sat down, took a breather, and wrote my reply, well, you wouldn't find this many mistakes.

correcting mistakes on the internet is for fucking nerds please. like ppl actually try and ues corect gramar and spellin'

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Enodu_2 · 2004-09-12, 16:00

Sasuke is by far the main character

Voltage · 2004-09-12, 16:19

::Looks around:: Did I just step foot into an English class?

Most likely all posts not related to the episode will be deleted by a moderator. I think I remember a certain flame war in a certain episode discussion thread that got two people banned.

Now back to the topic, I do believe Sasuke plays a role in this series, because it's his and Naruto's rivalry that create the story. If Kishimoto didn't think he was a main character he wouldn't have said that he was his favorite character in the manga.

Enodu_2 · 2004-09-12, 16:23

ya that's totally right

Shay · 2004-09-12, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Enodu_2

I understand that. Sasuke does play a large role in the story, but the topic is that he is the main character; which is not true. Sasuke is a very important character, but Naruto is the main character of the tale, and not Sasuke. Kishimito may be in favour of Sasuke, but that doesn't mean he is the main character...

BLAH, I quit this, I'm going deeper and deeper towards a nice ban. Last of the Uchiha wins, I give in.

There is no need to give in; Sasuke is not the main character, Naruto Is.

Enodu: Hmm yeah, I think it’s for the best.

Edit: LOL! Enodo you are one lucky mofo.

Enodu_2 · 2004-09-12, 16:38

Shay, I know, but dropping this is the best idea. Sigh, onto my homework

Shay: hahah, agreed

Shay: Indeed I am, but I'm sure I mentioned it was for the best ^^

eLstar · 2004-09-12, 17:54

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Originally Posted by BlackDove

You just don't quit, do you? Why do I have to read your "proove"'s for the third time now, while you reiterate the stupid shit you've just written in both posts above that one? What is the point in your posting?

Please don't answer, I don't think I'll be able to stand one of your newly invented words again.

Since you took the liberty to soundbite the crap you already wrote before, I'll do the same:

Hey that's quite clever of you BlackDove. Oh wait, that's not the word I was thinking of. What I really meant to say to you was that it was quite stupid of you.

Yeah that's right. Stupid for continuing a flame war when you clearly know that we don't condone it. Endou_2, since you decided to drop it and not be an idiot anymore, you won't be banned. Everyone else who made any stupid comment without taking it back like you did will be banned. Oh how I will miss this.

UserName · 2004-09-12, 18:01

I'll just say just because someone is the main character doesn't mean the story can't focus on someone else more so. Say the other character can have more air time and/or have almost every part of the story being influenced or related in some way to the other character.

And I think this is the case with Naruto.

NOTE: Sasuke is my least favorite character and I'm not too fond of Naurto's attitude also.

Veritas · 2004-09-12, 18:32

The series doesn't focus more on Sasuke than it does Naruto. Naruto has had several arcs already where Sasuke barely shows up. He's still a character integral to the rest of the series, like Kishimoto said. And your favorite character doesn't have to be a main character. Look at how some people diefy Ayame the Ramen Girl.

_Sin_ · 2004-09-12, 18:47

I think it's pretty irrelevant if Sasuke is a main character or not. Neither does it change his importance nor his fighting skills. Sasuke is very important for Naruto (the character, and consequently the show) since he is his first friend (I am excluding Sakure because she is his first love and Iruka because he is more of a father for Naruto). Moreover from that he is his rival who competes with Naruto about being the stronger one, consequently being benefical for Naruto.

I don't care if you define Sasuke's role as main character, secondary character, secondary main character or what not but you cannot deny the fact that he is vital for the story.

PS: The statement that I'm biased does not work here since I'm no Sasuke fan - at all. So if you want to discuss this, do it without flames but with facts and everything else that's normal for a friendly discussion or else I'll cry

Hunter · 2004-09-12, 18:57

Indeed Naruto appears more often than Sasuke (I mean of course), indeed in the end he's the one who wins, who beats the bad guys, etc.
But look at the story as a whole :

-During the first arc, Naruto shines two times (3 with the first chapter) : his trick to free Kakashi -which was along with Sasuke btw- and when he became Kyubized, ie 3 chapters.
The rest of the arc is mainly about Kakashi/Zabuza, Sasuke shares about the same time as Naruto (actually maybe a little more).

-The first part of the 2nd arc is fully about Sasuke, all the strong guys want to fight him, Oro the main bad guy appears for Sasuke, Kabuto tries to kidnap him, etc.
There is more about Lee in this part than about Naruto.
Then training month, here it's all about Naruto and it will remains like that until the end of the fight with Neji.
Sasuke appears, the war starts, this part is mostly about the 3rd and Oro then a little about Sasuke and at last Naruto closes the arc beating Gaara.

-The beginning of the 3rd arc where Naruto should have shined the most with the apparition of the new bad guys just for him, shows at the opposite the arrival of Itachi which represents a huge contribution to Sasuke's background.
During all this part, Naruto is almost a side character, it's all about Itachi & Sasuke.
Then training once again and thus about Naruto alone.
That lasts until the appartion of Tsunade, after that Naruto becomes once again almost a side character, it's all about the Sannin.

I don't speak of the last arc given that it would be a spoiler.

So that's it, indeed Naruto is the hero, indeed despite all that he has the most air time : the title of this series isn't Naruto for nothing.
But it's not for nothing either that Sasuke is considered as one of the main characters along with the hero, and not just an important side character.

Naruto is the main character, but Sasuke and the Sharingan are the backbone of the story, the Main bad guy Darth Oro wants them, the 2nd main bad guy is Uchiha Itachi, the twisted brother of Sasuke, Sasuke who worked with the hero under the command of Kakashi, member honoris causa of the Uchiha, etc.

Now it's perfectly possible that Kishimoto decides to open the spotlight on Naruto's past etc. but it will happens along with all the Uchiha thingy except if Kishimoto whipe off Kakashi and his past, Oro and his wish, Sasuke and his vengeance, without forgetting the little Itachi part of the Akatsuki, the group after the Kyubi.

Differently speaking more than very unlikely.

Enodu_2 · 2004-09-12, 19:38

My issue was that Sasuke is not the protagonist of the tale. The issue was resolved, more of dropped, so I'm back to happy mode.

Yoska · 2004-09-14, 12:51

Sasuke is more interesting than Naruto anyway.

Shay · 2004-09-14, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Yoska

Sasuke is more interesting than Naruto anyway.

I agree... I still don't like him all that much though.

gruvy_qc · 2004-09-14, 13:37

It's truee that Sasuke's story is more interesting than Naruto's one. In fact, it's more the story of Sasuke's family that is interesting. Sasuke only want to kill and Naruto only wnat to be aknowledged. Sasuke's family is much more mysterious....

Unit01 · 2004-09-14, 15:22

This episode was nice, great compared to the last episode. Finally some filler information people actually like

Well i liked this ep, slightly touching. The ending was nice as well

Spooky-Electric · 2004-09-14, 17:22

Am I missing something here? That episode wasn't filler. Some parts of it were, but the whole thing with Gai and Lee is from the manga. It just takes place at a later time than in the anime.

kwanseemun · 2004-09-14, 19:31

Its true that the Gai/Lee thing was from the manga, but they stretched it out alot, making it filler

HinatasFanBoy · 2004-09-14, 23:07

damn fillers shud stop soon, i mean one is fine every now and then but they're just milkin it, cud have shown that in fewer eps, jeez even the lee flashbacks repeated at least twice

UserName · 2004-09-15, 00:15

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Originally Posted by HinatasFanBoy

damn fillers shud stop soon, i mean one is fine every now and then but they're just milkin it, cud have shown that in fewer eps, jeez even the lee flashbacks repeated at least twice

You may soon need to stop calling it filler as it may be considered the 'anime storyline' which may be different from the 'manga storyline'...

I hope...

2004-09-12, 16:00	Link #102
Enodu_2 Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Sasuke is by far the main character Last edited by Enodu_2; 2004-09-12 at 16:35.

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Enodu_2 Member Join Date: Aug 2004	ya that's totally right Last edited by Enodu_2; 2004-09-12 at 16:34.

2004-09-12, 16:38	Link #106
Enodu_2 Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Shay, I know, but dropping this is the best idea. Sigh, onto my homework Shay: hahah, agreed Shay: Indeed I am, but I'm sure I mentioned it was for the best ^^ Last edited by Enodu_2; 2004-09-12 at 19:21.

2004-09-12, 18:01	Link #108
UserName Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	I'll just say just because someone is the main character doesn't mean the story can't focus on someone else more so. Say the other character can have more air time and/or have almost every part of the story being influenced or related in some way to the other character. And I think this is the case with Naruto. NOTE: Sasuke is my least favorite character and I'm not too fond of Naurto's attitude also. Last edited by UserName; 2004-09-12 at 18:56.

2004-09-12, 16:19	Link #103
Voltage 若い雷 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37	::Looks around:: Did I just step foot into an English class? Most likely all posts not related to the episode will be deleted by a moderator. I think I remember a certain flame war in a certain episode discussion thread that got two people banned. Now back to the topic, I do believe Sasuke plays a role in this series, because it's his and Naruto's rivalry that create the story. If Kishimoto didn't think he was a main character he wouldn't have said that he was his favorite character in the manga.

2004-09-12, 18:32	Link #109
Veritas The Last Visible Dog Join Date: Aug 2004	The series doesn't focus more on Sasuke than it does Naruto. Naruto has had several arcs already where Sasuke barely shows up. He's still a character integral to the rest of the series, like Kishimoto said. And your favorite character doesn't have to be a main character. Look at how some people diefy Ayame the Ramen Girl.

2004-09-12, 18:47	Link #110
_Sin_ Member of the Year 2004! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: "And if thou doest not well, _Sin_ lieth at the door."- Genesis 4:7 Age: 39	I think it's pretty irrelevant if Sasuke is a main character or not. Neither does it change his importance nor his fighting skills. Sasuke is very important for Naruto (the character, and consequently the show) since he is his first friend (I am excluding Sakure because she is his first love and Iruka because he is more of a father for Naruto). Moreover from that he is his rival who competes with Naruto about being the stronger one, consequently being benefical for Naruto. I don't care if you define Sasuke's role as main character, secondary character, secondary main character or what not but you cannot deny the fact that he is vital for the story. PS: The statement that I'm biased does not work here since I'm no Sasuke fan - at all. So if you want to discuss this, do it without flames but with facts and everything else that's normal for a friendly discussion or else I'll cry

2004-09-12, 18:57	Link #111
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	Indeed Naruto appears more often than Sasuke (I mean of course), indeed in the end he's the one who wins, who beats the bad guys, etc. But look at the story as a whole : -During the first arc, Naruto shines two times (3 with the first chapter) : his trick to free Kakashi -which was along with Sasuke btw- and when he became Kyubized, ie 3 chapters. The rest of the arc is mainly about Kakashi/Zabuza, Sasuke shares about the same time as Naruto (actually maybe a little more). -The first part of the 2nd arc is fully about Sasuke, all the strong guys want to fight him, Oro the main bad guy appears for Sasuke, Kabuto tries to kidnap him, etc. There is more about Lee in this part than about Naruto. Then training month, here it's all about Naruto and it will remains like that until the end of the fight with Neji. Sasuke appears, the war starts, this part is mostly about the 3rd and Oro then a little about Sasuke and at last Naruto closes the arc beating Gaara. -The beginning of the 3rd arc where Naruto should have shined the most with the apparition of the new bad guys just for him, shows at the opposite the arrival of Itachi which represents a huge contribution to Sasuke's background. During all this part, Naruto is almost a side character, it's all about Itachi & Sasuke. Then training once again and thus about Naruto alone. That lasts until the appartion of Tsunade, after that Naruto becomes once again almost a side character, it's all about the Sannin. I don't speak of the last arc given that it would be a spoiler. So that's it, indeed Naruto is the hero, indeed despite all that he has the most air time : the title of this series isn't Naruto for nothing. But it's not for nothing either that Sasuke is considered as one of the main characters along with the hero, and not just an important side character. Naruto is the main character, but Sasuke and the Sharingan are the backbone of the story, the Main bad guy Darth Oro wants them, the 2nd main bad guy is Uchiha Itachi, the twisted brother of Sasuke, Sasuke who worked with the hero under the command of Kakashi, member honoris causa of the Uchiha, etc. Now it's perfectly possible that Kishimoto decides to open the spotlight on Naruto's past etc. but it will happens along with all the Uchiha thingy except if Kishimoto whipe off Kakashi and his past, Oro and his wish, Sasuke and his vengeance, without forgetting the little Itachi part of the Akatsuki, the group after the Kyubi. Differently speaking more than very unlikely.

2004-09-12, 19:38	Link #112
Enodu_2 Member Join Date: Aug 2004	My issue was that Sasuke is not the protagonist of the tale. The issue was resolved, more of dropped, so I'm back to happy mode.

2004-09-14, 12:51	Link #113
Yoska フランキー Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Suomi Age: 38	Sasuke is more interesting than Naruto anyway.

2004-09-14, 13:37	Link #115
gruvy_qc (: Ecchi guy :) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Québec Age: 39	It's truee that Sasuke's story is more interesting than Naruto's one. In fact, it's more the story of Sasuke's family that is interesting. Sasuke only want to kill and Naruto only wnat to be aknowledged. Sasuke's family is much more mysterious....

2004-09-14, 15:22	Link #116
Unit01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	This episode was nice, great compared to the last episode. Finally some filler information people actually like Well i liked this ep, slightly touching. The ending was nice as well

2004-09-14, 17:22	Link #117
Spooky-Electric Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Am I missing something here? That episode wasn't filler. Some parts of it were, but the whole thing with Gai and Lee is from the manga. It just takes place at a later time than in the anime.

2004-09-14, 19:31	Link #118
kwanseemun Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada :D	Its true that the Gai/Lee thing was from the manga, but they stretched it out alot, making it filler

2004-09-14, 23:07	Link #119
HinatasFanBoy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bklyn 4 eva	damn fillers shud stop soon, i mean one is fine every now and then but they're just milkin it, cud have shown that in fewer eps, jeez even the lee flashbacks repeated at least twice