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Old 2009-04-22, 15:53   Link #521
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whitepearl, i thought you needed one of every direction for that hand to work out. you paired your easts but you're missing a north. and in mahjong, the odds of anyone actually getting a hand like that is extremely slim. heck, the odds of getting a kan (or gong, as i know it) like Saki does is also slim.

anyways, ep3. Saki is a MONSTER. ridiculously good player. she plays for sport and manages to destroy Nodoka. i can't wait for the eventual match up between her and her sister.
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Old 2009-04-22, 16:20   Link #522
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He received the north tile from North's discard, as you can see in the result screen. He only wanted to make the point that out all the yakuman's that was the 'easiest' to get, provided that you get a good number of honor tiles on your starting hand. And getting a kan is not rare at all. It's extremely common to see at least 3 or 4 kans during the course of a mahjong match. It IS extremely rare for one to get a tsumo from the tile you get from the dead wall once you open your kan (a chankan), which is why I'd agree with you that she is a monster
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Old 2009-04-22, 16:37   Link #523
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Actually, one thing I'm not entirely certain on: What if you had a yakuman hand that independantly had more than 13 fan? Like, say, you had a 4 concealed pungs and declared riichi, where all 4 of the pungs were actually dora and/or ura-dora, giving you 12 fan for dora and 1 for the riichi, in addition to the 1 yakuman for the 4 concealed pungs hand.... Would that count as 2 yakuman? Or is that still only one yakuman? I mean, I suppose the chances of that are infinitesimal, but still... I'm not sure how that would be scored.
There was this Mahjong game released on the Famicom in 1989 by Natsume. Someone managed to get a hold of a ROM/emulator version and uploaded some video onto niconico where he generated yakumans through a cheat...he does get double yakumans and managed to get a dora 14 through cheating, lol

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2040483
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Old 2009-04-22, 16:38   Link #524
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ah, i missed the north there. anyways, i couldn't figure out how to get that website to work. i couldn't pick up tiles i wanted that other people discarded.
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Old 2009-04-22, 17:10   Link #525
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When you can pick up a tile the other people discard the game will tell you either to pick up the tile or to pass. The pass button is perfectly obvious, but maybe the pickup option is not so. You actually have to click on your tiles, the ones that combined with the discarded tile would make a chi, pon or kan.
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Old 2009-04-22, 18:44   Link #526
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If someone discards the winning tile, either click the RON button or highlight the set of text on the bottom right (the words that are white on the bottom of my screencap)...selecting that option will allow you to ron/tsumo automatically when you get the winning tile.

A little knowledge of hiragana and katagana is needed.

But yes, back to Saki...with the tournament starting in the next episode (or the one after?) are there any specific players to look out for? Episode 3 did seem to make allusions that we should be paying attention to select participants but I'm wondering if any of them have the same luck Saki has or if they possess some unreal talent.
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Old 2009-04-22, 19:41   Link #527
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i admit that there's some talent involved, but the way they talk about talent in Saki irks me. especially since so much of the game is based on luck. in my estimation and years of playing, its pretty much down to 30% talent of knowing what tiles to keep for what type of winning hand and 60% what you draw and 10% what the person next to you throws out.

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Old 2009-04-22, 22:47   Link #528
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If someone discards the winning tile, either click the RON button or highlight the set of text on the bottom right (the words that are white on the bottom of my screencap)...selecting that option will allow you to ron/tsumo automatically when you get the winning tile.

A little knowledge of hiragana and katagana is needed.

But yes, back to Saki...with the tournament starting in the next episode (or the one after?) are there any specific players to look out for? Episode 3 did seem to make allusions that we should be paying attention to select participants but I'm wondering if any of them have the same luck Saki has or if they possess some unreal talent.
Not really a spoiler: They ALL posses some unique talent.

Remember, this is essentially a shounen sports anime. That's the way it works.

Spoiler for manga based:
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Old 2009-04-22, 22:56   Link #529
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This anime is suprisingly fun, I also enjoy the characters and I have too say that this anime is very close too yuri, because Nodoka is always blushing around Saki... but i dont think its going too happen...

But I do know how too play Mahjong and I guess you could say, i think its average. But I dont like how the anime makes Mahjong look sooooooo stupid, I mean god the whole flashes and thunder when they make moves OMFG lame.
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Old 2009-04-22, 23:01   Link #530
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But yes, back to Saki...with the tournament starting in the next episode (or the one after?) are there any specific players to look out for? Episode 3 did seem to make allusions that we should be paying attention to select participants but I'm wondering if any of them have the same luck Saki has or if they possess some unreal talent.
Not much at the beginning, though. They will show us how Saki team crushes everyone easily, but don't worry, the progress will be very short if they follow the manga closely (I estimate it'll be 1 ep only for all 5 matches), and when it reaches a final, expect to see a 2 episode long match .

I'm waiting to see my lolis .

It may be hard for other people to swallow, but luck is also one kind of talent, especially when it comes to a game that luck plays a big factor in it like Mahjong.

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But I do know how too play Mahjong and I guess you could say, i think its average. But I dont like how the anime makes Mahjong look sooooooo stupid, I mean god the whole flashes and thunder when they make moves OMFG lame.
Sorry, but I thought it's cool, and this is one of the reasons I follow this show .
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Old 2009-04-22, 23:23   Link #531
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the special effects are win. especially the flash in the eye.
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Old 2009-04-22, 23:40   Link #532
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From episode 3, it looks like all the other teams in the prefectural qualification round are from all-girl schools. That makes Saki's school the only exception, since it's co-ed. Quite "surprising" that there aren't more guys interested in mahjong in this show . If only Kyou wasn't there...
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Old 2009-04-23, 00:22   Link #533
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Oh it can get higher...



Come to think of it, I did declare riichi but I don't know if that alone helped make the score that much higher...

nvm, I was dealer which *may* have been why the score was higher...

I still haven't memorized how to count fu and calculate scores from han...
ty, i guess mine shoulve been close to 32k bc a self draw. its too bad that those hands arent easier to get.

saki is a monster at mahjong but so far the title goes to akagi. he was very good and played with some rather risky odds O.O.
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Old 2009-04-23, 03:14   Link #534
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Did anyone notice in episode 3 around the 13:00 mark when Saki discards that five circle tile and Yuuki declares Ron on it that the five tile that Yuuki already has looks like it's from a completely different set. Yuuki's is all red, but the type of tile Saki just discarded was Black and Red. I wonder what gives with that.

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the special effects are win. especially the flash in the eye.
You haven't seen anything until Koromo shows up. If they do her properly it might as well be like having the flashy level equivalent of a Super Robot. Every one of her poses and effects looks like it's ripped straight from a mecha anime.
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Old 2009-04-23, 03:24   Link #535
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Did anyone notice in episode 3 around the 13:00 mark when Saki discards that five circle tile and Yuuki declares Ron on it that the five tile that Yuuki already has looks like it's from a completely different set. Yuuki's is all red, but the type of tile Saki just discarded was Black and Red. I wonder what gives with that.
That is a red dora, there is an explantion about it in the first ep.

EDIT: Hmm.....Can someone go and answer my question in Saki manga's topic?
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...t=80184&page=2

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Old 2009-04-23, 03:28   Link #536
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Well, they mentioned it at ep 1, so I don't know you miss it or just forget , but that's a red tile (works as 1 dora). Yuuki's one is a normal tile.

Saki's hand is fast. I can't switch the tiles in an instance like that.
Can't get enough Yuuki's voice, seriously.

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My bad, Yuuki's one is a red dora tile.
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Old 2009-04-23, 03:42   Link #537
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Ah, okay I see how that works. I've never played any game with those rules and missed the part on it in the first episode. Yuuki had the Dora tile though.
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Old 2009-04-23, 04:01   Link #538
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That is a red dora, there is an explantion about it in the first ep.
Why were the 5's chosen to be the special? Just because it's the middle tile? (I'm guessing 1-3 and 7-9 are out because they are on the 123/789 sides, 4 is shi, so that leaves 5 or 6.)
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Old 2009-04-23, 04:36   Link #539
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Yuki is so cute... She needs to appear more. Best Rie character ever.
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Old 2009-04-23, 07:29   Link #540
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Yuki is so cute... She needs to appear more. Best Rie character ever.
I guess you haven't seen her as Matsudaira Touko from Maria sama ga Miteru, but I'll admit Yuki's different from her typical role.

Any, what time is Saki broadcasted in Japan?
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