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FlareKnight · 2007-10-07, 15:49

Ah welcome back to Shana. First episode was a fine way to get the series started up again. Dealing with an odd ability to throw a person into a dream world. Yuji did alright in figuring out what was going on and getting out of it. Though doesn't seem like it's the end by a long shot.

It would be just like that guy to not catch or forget Shana's confession. Puts Shana back a bit with Kazumi's still sitting in his mind. But still her reactions to the question were great.

Solafighter · 2007-10-07, 16:02

Like expected, a good beginning of the new season.

But i wanted to click on the poll so quickly, that i cliked on "1 out of 10 : Painful"

i wanted to vote a 10/10.

The opening is fantastic!

Skyfall · 2007-10-07, 16:06

For the first episode, overall i am less than impressed. Not a bad way to introduce the horn girl with that weird ability, but having Yuji run around, seeing the events we have already seen while repeating how weird this is was not the most exciting thing ever

That aside, Yuji caught on quite quickly. Her reasons for having Yuji experience this 'dream' are still unknown, and i wonder what can she actually gain from this ... perhaps something related to his Reiji Maigo ... we shall see due time no doubt

Character design seems to have changed, and the changes will take an ep or two for me to get used to. Especially Yuji himself.

Now ... the bad part. I was fearing they would somehow pull a reset button ... and they did. Why couldn't they at least do it while not making it look like a dumb plothole ?

He didn't hear her confession ? My arse, this is just plain inconsistency to what we were shown last season. Yuji heard perfectly, then smiled at her ... now they made it seem the explosion happened before Shana could tell the final words ... this is just a poorly executed plot hole, nothing else. But hey - easier to drop it instead of straining the brain over this issue, right ?

OP is quite nice once the lyrics kick in, but the rock piece played before that feels terribly not fitting.

6/10 for the first episode ... can't bring myself to think of this more than just 'average'.

Whitemoon648 · 2007-10-07, 16:10

WOW such a good quality. So much better than the first season. In terms of quality it deserves 10, but overal for todays episode 9. But i was so impressed with the quality that i gave it 10

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pikanaria · 2007-10-07, 16:16

Yeah, I also thought the episode was just average but I got to hear "urusai, urusai, urusai!" so I'm all set for now ^^

Kisuke06 · 2007-10-07, 16:41

the animation was just great in this episode! And I hope it keeps like that for the whole series.

I have watched the first season long ago, but I remembered some of the events in this episode(like Shana making the teacher cry).

I give it a 9/10.

And I can't wait for Yuji's first battle(if it happens in this season).

Meloria · 2007-10-07, 17:04

Haven't yet watched the episode, but funnily enough I just finished re-watching the first season and now the first episode of season two comes out - good timing! XD

Midonin · 2007-10-07, 17:23

I finished Shana's first season no more than a week ago, so when Yuuji was going through what felt like the entire first season in 30 minutes, I thought, "well, at least it'll be a good recap". But they only got as far as the second arc before we snapped back into the second season and out of the first. Not bad for a small reminder of how things are, and Shana's cute as always.

The new OP is good, though I expect it'll be better in full. No song is truly listened to until you've heard it all, after all. The ED's not bad, but Shana's first ED is probably my favorite overall. I like the new rockish version of the eyecatch, and the preview music isn't bad either.

So, not a bad start, and I'm ready for another ride. This time, going along with it instead of catching up. 8/10, a few points taken off for the sort-of-recap.

Terrestrial Dream · 2007-10-07, 17:31

The first episode was ok, nothing special about it. Even though this was like a recap episode it was still nice to see Shana again. Hopefully that it will get better with next episode.

garra113 · 2007-10-07, 18:18

I just rewatched it and for some reason, It gave me this code Geass feeling in the beginning >_>. Anyone got the vibe xD? Sounds alot like the opening from MBAC also.

Edit:One more thing, when it showed the credit scene in the beginning on the sponsers, doesn't the girl in the back looks alot like Tear from ToA?

Echoes · 2007-10-07, 18:40

I thought this was an excellent way to start the series off, I didn't see it coming at all. Yuji's reasoning is surely a force to be reckoned with, he pinpointed the problem and solved it with such haste. The mysterious nature of the whole event kept me at the edge of my seat throughout the entire episode, and I'm very much looking forward to the next. I had high expectations for Shakugan no Shana II, and it more than lived up to them. Shana was amazingly cute when claimed to not remember what she had told Yuji, perhaps even more-so than she's been in the entire first season.

Splendid visuals, lovely opening and a plot that I'm sure to find enthralling, I can ask for no more, 10/10. Might be the show of the season for me.

Oh, and I loved the new character. She looks smashing.

kiseki_gurl · 2007-10-07, 18:48

Well like everyone said, I think this was a pretty good start to the new season. I was actually happy that Yuji didn't here Shana's confession. I mean what's the fun when the love triangle is solved :P.

But man, the recap reminded me how retarded the villans were from last season. Hopefully this new chick will be a little less retarded.

9/10.

HayashiTakara · 2007-10-07, 19:12

Well done recap episode. I give it a 7/10 since its nothing really to write home about.

Oh, did anyone else notice that in the opening animation that Yuji is wearing a soldier outfit? I have this feeling that Yuji is gonna become a major badass.

DazarGaidin · 2007-10-07, 19:25

You know, it is possible to have romantic drama with an actual couple.. :P I wish they woulda focused on their relationship from the first season developing further/dealing with that relationship (which would be interesting in itself especially given shana's inept social skills/experience). Maybe a lead up to HIM responding to her feelings equally?

The triangle was wearing thin and now they reset it...

HayashiTakara · 2007-10-07, 19:28

I don't really see it as a reset, Shana accepts the fact that she's in love with Yuji, that within itself is a huge leap forward considering that in the first season, she was completely confuse by her feelings and unable to coupe with it.

Archuka · 2007-10-07, 19:33

The good:
- It's in HD!
- The animation and the designs seem to have slightly improved.
- The introduction to the plot was quite good.

The bad:
- The animation still wasn't spectacular in action scenes. Or perhaps Shana just isn't that amazing with a sword.

- Kugimiya Rie as Shana still strains my ears at times.

...and the ugly:
- Yuji x Shana relationship reset plus major inconsistency with the previous season. I suppose they wanted to do more of the same rather than actually develop the story.

Also, I noticed I had forgotten much of the original plot. I can't remember why Bal Masqué wants Yuji's hougu so badly, for instance.

HayashiTakara · 2007-10-07, 19:36

Balle Masque wants the Reji Maijo because it can potentially produce an infinite amount of life energy, and with that energy they can become eternal (Hecate primarily)

Omfgbbqwtf · 2007-10-07, 19:38

Ah.. interesting way to start a season. Can't comment much about it besides....we get a glimpse of what the new enemy looks like and her ability.

ashlay · 2007-10-07, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archuka

Also, I noticed I had forgotten much of the original plot. I can't remember why Bal Masqué wants Yuji's hougu so badly, for instance.

all the crimson denizens always want hougu by default, they don't really need a good reason to want something powerful.

anyway, if Bal Masque's reasons for wanting the Reiji Maigo have changed since last season, we'll likely find out about it next week.

mpt37 · 2007-10-07, 20:26

Great to see that Eclipse and SS will be subbing this. As for the 1st ep:

Spoiler for ep 1:

View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 1 Rating
Perfect 10	30	16.48%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	46	25.27%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	54	29.67%
7 out of 10 : Good	35	19.23%
6 out of 10 : Average	10	5.49%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	3	1.65%
4 out of 10 : Poor	1	0.55%
3 out of 10 : Bad	2	1.10%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	1	0.55%
Voters: 182. You may not vote on this poll

2007-10-07, 15:49	Link #21
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Ah welcome back to Shana. First episode was a fine way to get the series started up again. Dealing with an odd ability to throw a person into a dream world. Yuji did alright in figuring out what was going on and getting out of it. Though doesn't seem like it's the end by a long shot. It would be just like that guy to not catch or forget Shana's confession. Puts Shana back a bit with Kazumi's still sitting in his mind. But still her reactions to the question were great. __________________ Anime-Evo

2007-10-07, 16:02	Link #22
Solafighter Hige Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: God only knows	Like expected, a good beginning of the new season. But i wanted to click on the poll so quickly, that i cliked on "1 out of 10 : Painful" i wanted to vote a 10/10. The opening is fantastic! __________________

2007-10-07, 16:06	Link #23
Skyfall Lost in my dreams... Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 37	For the first episode, overall i am less than impressed. Not a bad way to introduce the horn girl with that weird ability, but having Yuji run around, seeing the events we have already seen while repeating how weird this is was not the most exciting thing ever That aside, Yuji caught on quite quickly. Her reasons for having Yuji experience this 'dream' are still unknown, and i wonder what can she actually gain from this ... perhaps something related to his Reiji Maigo ... we shall see due time no doubt Character design seems to have changed, and the changes will take an ep or two for me to get used to. Especially Yuji himself. Now ... the bad part. I was fearing they would somehow pull a reset button ... and they did. Why couldn't they at least do it while not making it look like a dumb plothole ? He didn't hear her confession ? My arse, this is just plain inconsistency to what we were shown last season. Yuji heard perfectly, then smiled at her ... now they made it seem the explosion happened before Shana could tell the final words ... this is just a poorly executed plot hole, nothing else. But hey - easier to drop it instead of straining the brain over this issue, right ? OP is quite nice once the lyrics kick in, but the rock piece played before that feels terribly not fitting. 6/10 for the first episode ... can't bring myself to think of this more than just 'average'. __________________

2007-10-07, 16:10	Link #24
Whitemoon648 Sawa-Chan <3 <3 <3 Join Date: Dec 2004	WOW such a good quality. So much better than the first season. In terms of quality it deserves 10, but overal for todays episode 9. But i was so impressed with the quality that i gave it 10 . __________________

2007-10-07, 16:16	Link #25
pikanaria Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Yeah, I also thought the episode was just average but I got to hear "urusai, urusai, urusai!" so I'm all set for now ^^

2007-10-07, 16:41	Link #26
Kisuke06 I see... Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 34	the animation was just great in this episode! And I hope it keeps like that for the whole series. I have watched the first season long ago, but I remembered some of the events in this episode(like Shana making the teacher cry). I give it a 9/10. And I can't wait for Yuji's first battle(if it happens in this season).

2007-10-07, 17:04	Link #27
Meloria Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 34	Haven't yet watched the episode, but funnily enough I just finished re-watching the first season and now the first episode of season two comes out - good timing! XD

2007-10-07, 17:23	Link #28
Midonin Last Engage Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida	I finished Shana's first season no more than a week ago, so when Yuuji was going through what felt like the entire first season in 30 minutes, I thought, "well, at least it'll be a good recap". But they only got as far as the second arc before we snapped back into the second season and out of the first. Not bad for a small reminder of how things are, and Shana's cute as always. The new OP is good, though I expect it'll be better in full. No song is truly listened to until you've heard it all, after all. The ED's not bad, but Shana's first ED is probably my favorite overall. I like the new rockish version of the eyecatch, and the preview music isn't bad either. So, not a bad start, and I'm ready for another ride. This time, going along with it instead of catching up. 8/10, a few points taken off for the sort-of-recap.

2007-10-07, 17:31	Link #29
Terrestrial Dream 勇者 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tesla Leicht Institute Age: 34	The first episode was ok, nothing special about it. Even though this was like a recap episode it was still nice to see Shana again. Hopefully that it will get better with next episode. __________________

2007-10-07, 18:18	Link #30
garra113 CaramellDansen!!! Join Date: Apr 2006	I just rewatched it and for some reason, It gave me this code Geass feeling in the beginning >_>. Anyone got the vibe xD? Sounds alot like the opening from MBAC also. Edit:One more thing, when it showed the credit scene in the beginning on the sponsers, doesn't the girl in the back looks alot like Tear from ToA?

2007-10-07, 18:40	Link #31
Echoes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In line to confess his sins. Age: 36	I thought this was an excellent way to start the series off, I didn't see it coming at all. Yuji's reasoning is surely a force to be reckoned with, he pinpointed the problem and solved it with such haste. The mysterious nature of the whole event kept me at the edge of my seat throughout the entire episode, and I'm very much looking forward to the next. I had high expectations for Shakugan no Shana II, and it more than lived up to them. Shana was amazingly cute when claimed to not remember what she had told Yuji, perhaps even more-so than she's been in the entire first season. Splendid visuals, lovely opening and a plot that I'm sure to find enthralling, I can ask for no more, 10/10. Might be the show of the season for me. Oh, and I loved the new character. She looks smashing. __________________ MyAnimeList Reviews and stuff

2007-10-07, 18:48	Link #32
kiseki_gurl :.:A2M Staff Member:.: Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 31	Well like everyone said, I think this was a pretty good start to the new season. I was actually happy that Yuji didn't here Shana's confession. I mean what's the fun when the love triangle is solved :P. But man, the recap reminded me how retarded the villans were from last season. Hopefully this new chick will be a little less retarded. 9/10.

2007-10-07, 19:12	Link #33
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	Well done recap episode. I give it a 7/10 since its nothing really to write home about. Oh, did anyone else notice that in the opening animation that Yuji is wearing a soldier outfit? I have this feeling that Yuji is gonna become a major badass.

2007-10-07, 19:25	Link #34
DazarGaidin There there, Maggie-chan Join Date: Sep 2007	You know, it is possible to have romantic drama with an actual couple.. :P I wish they woulda focused on their relationship from the first season developing further/dealing with that relationship (which would be interesting in itself especially given shana's inept social skills/experience). Maybe a lead up to HIM responding to her feelings equally? The triangle was wearing thin and now they reset it... __________________

2007-10-07, 19:28	Link #35
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	I don't really see it as a reset, Shana accepts the fact that she's in love with Yuji, that within itself is a huge leap forward considering that in the first season, she was completely confuse by her feelings and unable to coupe with it.

2007-10-07, 19:33	Link #36
Archuka A territory most absolute Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Finland Age: 37	The good: - It's in HD! - The animation and the designs seem to have slightly improved. - The introduction to the plot was quite good. The bad: - The animation still wasn't spectacular in action scenes. Or perhaps Shana just isn't that amazing with a sword. - Kugimiya Rie as Shana still strains my ears at times. ...and the ugly: - Yuji x Shana relationship reset plus major inconsistency with the previous season. I suppose they wanted to do more of the same rather than actually develop the story. Also, I noticed I had forgotten much of the original plot. I can't remember why Bal Masqué wants Yuji's hougu so badly, for instance.

2007-10-07, 19:36	Link #37
HayashiTakara Chicken or Beef? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 41	Balle Masque wants the Reji Maijo because it can potentially produce an infinite amount of life energy, and with that energy they can become eternal (Hecate primarily)

2007-10-07, 19:38	Link #38
Omfgbbqwtf Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: UC San Diego Age: 34	Ah.. interesting way to start a season. Can't comment much about it besides....we get a glimpse of what the new enemy looks like and her ability.

2007-10-07, 20:26	Link #40
mpt37 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Great to see that Eclipse and SS will be subbing this. As for the 1st ep: Spoiler for ep 1: Loved seeing Wilhelmina acting like some overprotective parent of Shana's, even if it was only is Yuji's dream world. I'm a bit upset that they made it so Yuji didn't hear what Shana said just before summoning Alastor, but it did make for a cute scene at the end and it gave Shana a chance to use her 3x Urusai! Looking forward to the rest of the series. Last edited by mpt37; 2007-10-08 at 02:39.