Full Metal Panic Novel Discussion

[FeistyDreams]

Originally Posted by <KS11>

Hi guys,

No news at all on anything?

Originally Posted by Kaoru842

no new news?

Uhmm... Nope, not really. FMP!Another made its manga debut this month in Newtype Ace, the artist is Taichi You, which is a name that is completely impossible to Google in English successfully. I just get a bunch Tai Chi stuff >.> *ahem*

Been searching for scans, since I'm unable to justify buying the magazine right now, but no luck. Will have to wait until it's printed in volumes and I can buy those. The artist does a good job keeping faithful to Shikidouji's style. It's obviously enough different, but it's close enough to leave nothing up for speculation, from what I've seen. He does a good job. At least at the character design. I'd have to read it to find out how well he did overall, of course >.> ^^;;

Sigma 16 is out November 9th. The cover is Kalinin with the Arbalest behind him.

Another v.2 is supposed to be out in winter, right now there's news that it'll be out Dec. 20th, but until Kadokawa shows the date, can't be sure. Seems like it's the target date, though, if nothing else.

That's, uhm, that's it. Nothing exciting. *shrug*

[<KS11>]

Thank you so much! ^^ it's not your fault if we don't have any real news but once in a while is worth asking.. :P

Where did you find the cover of sigma 16? No matter where i look i can't find anything..

[FeistyDreams]

I first saw it posted at Ueda's twitter, but you can also find it at Fujimi Shobo's FMP page. Ueda had posted a little while ago the sketches for Kalinin and the Arbalest. I just didn't know at the time that they were what the next volume cover would be.

[<KS11>]

Wow thanks again!

[Tactics]

Can somebody help me ?
Where I can find the fan-translated version of the last volume ( novel ) ?

[<KS11>]

If you look back on these pages you may find the SPOILER that you seek.

I hope that you get the message when i say this..

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I dunno if I should be asking this but has anybody translate the FMP Another novel?

[FeistyDreams]

Haven't seen any translations of Another around myself. Been keeping my eyes open and searching every now and again, but nothing.

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

That's a shame. I want to read it.

"off to listen to Claris - Don't Cry"

[FeistyDreams]

The release date of December 20th for FMPA2 has been confirmed ^^

[Saulomo]

I have read FMP! Sigma 1-13. Where do I start with the novels?

[FeistyDreams]

Originally Posted by Saulomo

I have read FMP! Sigma 1-13. Where do I start with the novels?

Zutto/Always Stand By Me 1&2 are all that's left. Odoru/Dancing Very Merry Christmas was skipped in Sigma and then revisited in volume 15 (and 16, when it comes out next month) as a flashback, so you may want to read that one first, but it isn't necessary to know what's going on. It might just be confusing, so you may want to read it after Stand By Me instead. *shrug* Either way.

[Saulomo]

I've read parts of them, so I think I should be fine. Thanks a lot for your response.

[<KS11>]

Originally Posted by FeistyDreams

The release date of December 20th for FMPA2 has been confirmed ^^

That's good

I would like to read it too, but without an english version is impossible for now :P

[Saulomo]

The spoiler below will reveal the ending, so do not open unless you've read the whole thing.

Spoiler:

I was very suprised by the ending. I honestly thought that Sousuke would die and it would be a sad ending with Kaname being all whiny, or the alternate world would be completed, and Sousuke and Kaname would meet there.

[Cenit]

Originally Posted by Saulomo

The spoiler

Wtf dude nobody asked you about that. Delete that spoiler - we all all know the ending for over a year now and ppl who don't will just walk into a trap.

[Saulomo]

Any English translations for FMP! Another 1?

[Sumeragi]

If I may say so, I really think people should consider the purpose of this forum and then go about asking for things.

[xzx]

Hey I've seen the anime and I liked it - I thought of reading the LN but I want to know if these things are true first though.

SPOILER

Kaname and Leonard do kiss more, but it is easy to miss in the novels because Chidori doesn't make such drama out of it when when her first kiss was stolen. -- How many times and are they all stolen or does she kiss him freely (starting to like him)?

Though when Leonard and Sousuke meets Leonard brags that he and Chidori kisses a lot its probably just to spite Sousuke off rather than the truth, but we cannot be completely sure that it is a lie because the story isn't shown all that much from Chidori's viewpoint and most of the time she is having troubles with her whispered double so her sense of reality is off a little.

And while we can ignore the part where Leonard talks how Chidoru passionately embraces his neck during the kisses they share, because the way Chidori is portrayed she is much more messed up and quite impassionate for the most part, there is a possibility that they might have had few more kisses there and here but because Chidori is messed up due to her Whispered self it is not easy to tell how things really are because we get to see less and less of real Chidori as time goes by thus getting less and less of her POV.

The best part about it is that the only thing that Sousuke gets after fighting so hard to get to her is Chidori shooting him in the head and siding with Leonard, luckily he wasnt real Sousuke but Chidori really did want to kill Sousuke (and thats after all that promise the next time we will meet we will definitely kiss, lol).

The more annoying is not the actual kisses but that the relationship does grow between Chidori and Leonard. Can't say its love but Chidori is hesitant about leonard and at one point Leonard was wounded and Chidori had a chance to run try Sousuke escaping Leonard but she chose to stay with wounded Leonard (and what is more painful for the reader that she wasn't influenced by her Whispered side while making that hesitation/choice).Sousuke breaks all Tessa fans hearts by saying taht he doesnt love Tessa as much as he does chidori (In merry Christmas volume) but he doenst get all that much love back. And things keep getting worser and worser for him, it is particularly annoying since when you see a portion about depressed/going through hardships Sousuke you get an close interaction between Leonard/Chidori and thats for the last few volumes straight.

Chidori is messed in her head because of her whispered side but her relationship with Leonard does build up as she starts to understand and know him much better


Even when her first kiss was stolen - while Chidori wanted to give the her first kiss to Sousuke and was depressed by it being forced out of her forever, she did in fact enjoyed the kiss (it was well portrayed in the novels) so it also adds somewhat double feeling to the whole issue either... is it true and which novel is it?

These are the things I heard from another forum - I just want it confirmed (especially the underlining parts) cause I don't wanna waste my time reading something that will make me angry ty.

[FeistyDreams]

Originally Posted by xzx

Hey I've seen the anime and I liked it - I thought of reading the LN but I want to know if these things are true first though.

Going to say here... Whatever forum this was, the people are very, very confused about what they read....

Originally Posted by xzx

Kaname and Leonard do kiss more, but it is easy to miss in the novels because Chidori doesn't make such drama out of it when when her first kiss was stolen.

Spoiler:

Yes, Leonard forces more kisses on Kaname. It's not really right to say "Kaname and Leonard kiss more" because that implies it being two-way. Other than when Kaname is possessed by Sophia, none of their kisses are consensual, and they are made a deal of. When Kaname is possessed, it isn't fair to say that it's Kaname kissing Leonard. It's her body, but NOT her mind, NOT her desire.

Originally Posted by xzx

Though when Leonard and Sousuke meets Leonard brags that he and Chidori kisses a lot its probably just to spite Sousuke off rather than the truth, but we cannot be completely sure that it is a lie because the story isn't shown all that much from Chidori's viewpoint and most of the time she is having troubles with her whispered double so her sense of reality is off a little.

And while we can ignore the part where Leonard talks how Chidoru passionately embraces his neck during the kisses they share, because the way Chidori is portrayed she is much more messed up and quite impassionate for the most part, there is a possibility that they might have had few more kisses there and here but because Chidori is messed up due to her Whispered self it is not easy to tell how things really are because we get to see less and less of real Chidori as time goes by thus getting less and less of her POV.

Spoiler:

Leonard does not mention the kisses. Sousuke probably would have killed him then and there if he had, and Leonard, as much of a bastard as he is, is a MANIPULATIVE bastard, and knows people, and knows that telling Sousuke about those kisses would have a severely detrimental effect on the achievement of his goals.

We get enough from Kaname's point of view to know exactly what's been going on with her, both before and after her possession.

Originally Posted by xzx

The best part about it is that the only thing that Sousuke gets after fighting so hard to get to her is Chidori shooting him in the head and siding with Leonard, luckily he wasnt real Sousuke but Chidori really did want to kill Sousuke (and thats after all that promise the next time we will meet we will definitely kiss, lol).

Spoiler:

Sousuke was fighting hard the whole time. He didn't suddenly get more intense after possessed-Kaname was tricked by real-Kaname into thinking she'd shot Sousuke and Tessa (and Sousuke and Tessa tricked into thinking it as well, so they reacted as though they'd been killed). Hell, after that event, he had his moments of doubt, but he went through them. Yes, that event was after their promise, but it wasn't REALLY Kaname that did that. It's not easy to tell in that novel, but in the following one, it becomes a lot more obvious, just what exactly had been going on with Kaname.

Originally Posted by xzx

The more annoying is not the actual kisses but that the relationship does grow between Chidori and Leonard. Can't say its love but Chidori is hesitant about leonard and at one point Leonard was wounded and Chidori had a chance to run try Sousuke escaping Leonard but she chose to stay with wounded Leonard (and what is more painful for the reader that she wasn't influenced by her Whispered side while making that hesitation/choice).Sousuke breaks all Tessa fans hearts by saying taht he doesnt love Tessa as much as he does chidori (In merry Christmas volume) but he doenst get all that much love back. And things keep getting worser and worser for him, it is particularly annoying since when you see a portion about depressed/going through hardships Sousuke you get an close interaction between Leonard/Chidori and thats for the last few volumes straight.

Spoiler:

You can't really say that the relationship grew between Kaname and Leonard. She hates his guts, plain and simple. But despite what she's been through, she is still a normal girl, and she's not the kind of person who can wish death on someone. She's a legit kind person. Yes, when Leonard is wounded, she has a chance to escape, but it's not for that long. She hesitates 'cause she's horrified. She was holding the gun that discharged and shot him in the forehead, if he died, it was her fault. She couldn't just turn tail and run immediately. She possibly had just killed someone, for the first time. I HATE when people give her a hard time for this. She had a natural human reaction. She HESITATED. Anyone who had never killed before would have hesitated, don't even pretend you wouldn't. Kalinin wasn't far behind, he was there within the minute to take her away.

Yes, Sousuke tells Tessa he doesn't love her. He and Kaname have several sweet moments (and plenty of not-so-sweet) in that novel, that really show how their relationship is growing. They still don't admit to one another that they're in love, but they come close.

People who get pissy about seeing Sousuke chase down Kaname, and Kaname not actively out for Leonard's blood don't understand the characters. Kaname is Leonard's captive, she can't do all that much about it. She does what she can to make herself not as useful, but she doesn't do anything to bring wrath down on her, either. She's a smart girl. And she feels guilt where she shouldn't. She feels guilt about going with Leonard, but the truth is, if she hadn't volunteered, Sousuke would have been killed, and she still would have been captured, but now with no one to save her. It had to be the way it was. And anyone who thinks Kaname came to like Leonard didn't read the same books I did, I swear. She came to PITY him. But she never liked him.

Originally Posted by xzx

Chidori is messed in her head because of her whispered side but her relationship with Leonard does build up as she starts to understand and know him much better

Spoiler:

Said it before, will say it again. NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THEM. When she's possessed by the Whisperer, Sophia, she thinks she'll "reward" him by allowing him to have sex with her, but that's Sophia talking. Kaname puts a halt to it. She is DISGUSTED by it. It makes her sick, and it makes her furious, and she's able to get Sophia to back down. The thing that might seem confusing to people is that Sophia had tricked herself into believing she actually IS Kaname, which is the only reason it might look like it's Kaname's doing. But it isn't. It's all Sophia.

Originally Posted by xzx

Even when her first kiss was stolen - while Chidori wanted to give the her first kiss to Sousuke and was depressed by it being forced out of her forever, she did in fact enjoyed the kiss (it was well portrayed in the novels) so it also adds somewhat double feeling to the whole issue either... is it true and which novel is it?

Spoiler:

Yes, Kaname wanted to give Sousuke her first kiss. She was indeed depressed about it, and disgusted. Part of her thinks it's foolish, because in kindergarten, as a joke, she had kissed another girl, so part of her wonders at her thoughts about it. And yes, on a base-human-instinct-physical-feeling -only-way, she DID enjoy the kiss. And she hates herself for that, too. Emotionally, she HATED the kiss. The physical sensation of lips on hers was enjoyable. At first. And then everything kicked in, and she was PISSED.

The book is the End of Day by Day/Owaru Day By Day pair (often lumped together as a single book)

Originally Posted by xzx

These are the things I heard from another forum - I just want it confirmed (especially the underlining parts) cause I don't wanna waste my time reading something that will make me angry ty.

Hope that helped. The people on the other forum either didn't understand what they read, drew conclusions from bits of info they'd heard, let their personal feelings on the events delude the facts, or some combination there-in.