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Aleister = pawns Fiamma like a kid
Aiwass = ? ? ? Fiamma = star destroyer Accelerator = at least planet destroyer Fuze no Kazakiri = can turn planets to cinders any type of angel class or divine beings
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2011-03-24, 01:24 | Link #9202 |
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Gabriel, who can just stop the Earth from turning and make it implode.
Accel (before Black Wings), by collecting the vectors of the Earth and launch a attack more powerful than any nuke. Fiamma of the Right, launching the Star of Bethlehem and using the Golden Arms to cleanse the Earth. His Holy Right is theoretically able to destroy the world in one attack. Aiwass, who is probably the most powerful being shown in series so far... Really, there's quite a few out there. Edit: ninja'd |
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When did FUSE become a planet buster? |
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2011-03-24, 03:50 | Link #9205 | ||
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Okay, so basically they'll help the Esper up to the point where they can't improve any more without burning through more reasources that could be better spent on other students. That to say, there is also a point where no amount of reasource added would help the Esper to level up. Harsh as it sounds it makes perfect sense. Quote:
She could completely remove our planet's Magnetic Field, leaving us venerable to cosmic radiation. Or Strengthen the field to the same level of a Magnatar, warping the atoms in our body.
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Fuse is still a rank above accelerator in terms of raw power. It just happens that Fuse was made up with the same material that Accelerator knows. If she is the same as gabriel. Just a pure telesma. She can pawn Accelerator.
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2011-03-24, 07:36 | Link #9211 | |
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Gabriel is clear clestial body killer. Look at Astral in Hand flinging the stars away from Earth's skies like nothing leaving the Bethlehem Star the only one up there. And that was at 50%. Fianma can do anything IF said target/s warrants that level of response. Aiwass is the most powerful thing so far and Aleister is transcendent over reality.
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Also, removing the magnetic field or changing its level isn't enough to destroy Earth on one blow, just only torture to death the human live on it. IMO, Accelerator isn't as strong as Fiamma or the real angels out there. |
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Actually, we do have a rough idea of that. Mikoto's most powerful attack that even resulted in her getting tired was only able to barely scratch Gunha. Even if she does awaken, the possibility of which I will explain below, the jump will only be as big as what Kakine had. That would be around regular Accelerator's level, going from the text in Volume 15. Now, for the said text: Spoiler for novel text:
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Anyway, this is why one of the requirements for awakening in a way similar to Kakine and Accelerator is a unique power, and of course the potential for awakening in the first place. If Mikoto did have the potential to awaken, then she should not have been limited by Parameter List in the first place (since getting someone to awaken would be more valuable than more Level 5s). In other words, the reason why she's being limited by Parameter List is that pouring additional resources on her development will be ultimately futile since she won't be awakening anyway. Even if she can break through the Parameter List limit in some way and reach her Level cap, then I assume it will only be up to the level of base Kakine. On Accelerator, I believe the reason why Aiwass called his black wings as from the Aeon of Osiris was because it was manifested thanks to Index's song/prayer that she used on Last Order to fix Kazakiri (which I'm fairly sure Accelerator heard, and so was affected by it too). This should mean that he has now moved on to the Aeon of Horus after his transformation in Volume 22 (which made use of Index's song mixed with the unknown laws from Aiwass and the lambskin, and a smile to Last Order), and that Kakine's wings were already of the Aeon of Horus when he fully awakened, right before being crushed by Accelerator. For some reason, my sig is acting up again. Damn these blue and white pixels!
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2011-03-24, 08:33 | Link #9214 |
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Again...no where does it say that Black Wings is organic Dark Matter. Divine as in Angel nature yes, but not Kakine's Dark Matter even if both have Angel potential.
And the reason why Accelerator's Black Wings is Osirian is because it appears when he wants to kill and nothing more. It is pure death, and thus Osirian in aeon rather than the more enlightened and progressive Horusian White Wings. This does question where Kakine's and Accelerator's Angel nature come from? God? Then if so maybe Aleister is the one getting the short end of the stick in his war against God and Heaven? Maybe the winning side in the end would still be Heaven and the Magic Side.....
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@Ice Block: Kakine says he saw those Black Wings before, but when?
The only answer is during the invasion of Academy City by Vento, where he fought Kihara and grew black wings. Is obvious Kakine wasn't there but there is the chance they were being observed from afar with security cameras. If Kakine managed to get his hands on those registers (maybe via Underline) and watched Accelerator awakening, that can confirm his point. Quote:
But, the reason why Aiwass called Accelerator from the Aeon of Osiris was because Accelerator fall under pain, death and sacrifice. Note on this, Aiwass was interested in "Kakine Teitoku" (calling him from the Aeon of Isis) despite his current on a fridge-state Aiwass showed interest only on those two and no other esper. Index doesn't counts since that was during the WW3. Note: Dark Matter is the name of his power not the material of the wings, its the material he creates by altering the laws. |
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No, you misunderstand. The text states that Kakine knows what these wings are. He has seen them before from his own power; from his own dark matter.
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Why? I thought Gabriel display more power, Aiwass just so happens to have an advantage over AIM users.
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If your talking about Gabriel, then it could also just chuck a star at the planet to make the planet explode. |
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Erm, I don't think Kakine saw them from his own Dark matter, otherwise he would be able to create it with his power. All he knows is that they aren't particles that might exist/exist, so the wings are dark matter. No where does it imply he's seen them in his own power before.
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