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ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Xezexal

People were saying that Ao was the other world which we saw a mention of in E7. But I guess that theory was ripped to shreds......

No it isn't. In fact the two world theory was further strengthened by Naru discovering the Scubs origin.

The origin we saw in E7.

I know we are all along for the ride but pay attention to the details.

AO world is a warped history due to the presence of Secrets and Scub. warping from another dimension.

E7 world's history is similar to ours until the Scub came from space.

Key Board · 2012-07-20, 00:27

From what I've seen it seems that..

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ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 00:40

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Originally Posted by Key Board

From what I've seen it seems that..

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Kazu-kun · 2012-07-20, 01:21

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Nope Naru saw E7 world's history. She even mentioned the human exodus to Ao. But it seems Truth has brainwashed her into his belief this world is the wrong one as the history doesn't fit. Even outright ignoring what Eureka is saying.

The subs are out so no need for spoiler tags.

Anyway, I don't think she has been brainwashed or anything. She made her own conclusions based on what she saw. Besides, she didn't say anything about the world being wrong like Truth claims. At any rate, we still don't know what she expects to achieve with all this.

On another note I thought this little exchange between Ao and Naru was interesting:

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Ao: "You don't have to strain yourself. I'll protect you."

Naru: "Ao, I wanted to fly together with you. Not just being embraced by you."

It seems all this time Ao has been thinking of Naru as a damsel in distress. But what Naru really wanted was to be with him as his equal. Ao baka.

sikvod00 · 2012-07-20, 01:28

I liked the not-so-subtle homage they gave to the spectacular scene in E7 episode 26: Morning Glory. Instead of having Renton reaching out to grab a falling Eureka, it's her son.

So, can anyone guess why Nirvash acted on its own and went after Truth after ejecting Eureka? According to Truth, it "hates" him.

dresden · 2012-07-20, 01:55

Sometimes you just have to sit back and enjoy the fall. And hope that the parachute works.

EroKing · 2012-07-20, 02:12

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Priceless startled look on Truth's face was priceless

Kazu-kun · 2012-07-20, 02:24

Interesting detail here. When Ao asks Toshio about his sister (Ao's sister), Toshio takes him to Naru.

It's most likely misdirection, of course, but I thought it was funny nonetheless.

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 02:35

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Originally Posted by sikvod00

I liked the not-so-subtle homage they gave to the spectacular scene in E7 episode 26: Morning Glory. Instead of having Renton reaching out to grab a falling Eureka, it's her son.

So, can anyone guess why Nirvash acted on its own and went after Truth after ejecting Eureka? According to Truth, it "hates" him.

We don't know if this Nirvash is purely mechanical or has an archetype inside. If it does have an archetype hence a Coralian maybe it hates Truth because he is a Secret.

But holo Eureka says Secrets are not their enemies. If Secrets are Scub then we are seeing an alien civil war.

Bombo · 2012-07-20, 02:35

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Originally Posted by TheEroKing

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LoL

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Priceless startled look on Truth's face was priceless

and ao said thank to her hahaa

Axiszero · 2012-07-20, 02:55

Eureka's child is a girl

That means one thing is amiss, how long was the time between older sister's birth and Ao's birth ?

cyberdemon · 2012-07-20, 03:30

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

No it isn't. In fact the two world theory was further strengthened by Naru discovering the Scubs origin.

The origin we saw in E7.

I know we are all along for the ride but pay attention to the details.

AO world is a warped history due to the presence of Secrets and Scub. warping from another dimension.

E7 world's history is similar to ours until the Scub came from space.

Everyone thought Ao and Eureka were aliens. Most of the people see scub corals coming from space rather than another timeline from the scub bursts. Sometimes the easiest explanation can be the the right one believe it or not.

It's more likely that the scub coral simply went through time and settled on Earth in the past. They came from the sky during scub bursts so everyone thought that they were aliens coming from space and eventually they grew to the proportion that led to the E7 world.

Raincollie · 2012-07-20, 03:32

I wonder- has anybody noticed the reference to E7's 2nd opening (Shounen Heart) in the new op?

Compare 1:05~1:13 in the new OP to 1:12~1:21 in E7's 2nd opening, and you'll know what I mean.

Protagonist LFO/IFO taking a curve, close-up on a machine gun, protagonist LFO/IFO's heavy weapon shot, enemy blows up, two explosions, one following the other, with the exact same impact.

Also, the ED is kind of annoying.

Blaat · 2012-07-20, 03:32

[Vader]You have a sister[/Vader]

You know last week I made a joke that Naru and Eureka are newtypes, this week we have Naru floating in space like she's Lalah.

I wonder if her fate ends up similar as Lalah?
Speaking of Gundam first part of the opening was very Gundamish. The opening song was great (FLOW FTW) and Renton looks like a hot blooded pilot.

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 03:42

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

It's more likely that the scub coral simply went through time and settled on Earth in the past. They came from the sky during scub bursts so everyone thought that they were aliens coming from space and eventually they grew to the proportion that led to the E7 world.

That does not explain AO world's Alternate History. Secrets since the 18th century. Scub Coral appearances in the 20th century.

Tokyo rendered as a crater.

As I said pay attention to the details. Why do you guys think it had that much world building for half of the show?

j0x · 2012-07-20, 04:40

elena is almost confirmed as a humanoid-coralian
truth might be a humanoid-coralian too
naru is mutating to be a humanoid-coralian

elena and truth and naru hates eureka, wtf why?
looks like the scub corals are misunderstood as enemies here
but the secrets are also not the enemies as said by eureka on last episode
so i guess the secrets are part of scub corals (coralians) too

seems like eureka and renton are hated by coralians/secrets for some unknown reason/s
and that renton is currently fighting somewhere

and also Ao has a sister? might be either Naru or Elena it seems

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 04:55

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Originally Posted by j0x

truth might be a humanoid-coralian too

A humanoid Secret 10 years ago, if we take account also what happened he got covered in Scub Coral a reprogrammed Secret.

This explains why he is hostile to Secrets. Yet an uneasy ally of the Scub Coral.

Nirvash Spec-2 likely has an archetype inside it. Hence it hates a Secret like Truth.

Truth probably wanted Eureka as a new Command Cluster but he'll have to settle with Naru.

Haak · 2012-07-20, 05:23

Well I think we also got an explanation why the children can pilot IFOs. They might have Plant Corals inside of them, just like Naru.

ReddyRedWolf · 2012-07-20, 05:27

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Originally Posted by Haak

Well I think we also got an explanation why the children can pilot IFOs. They might have Plant Corals inside of them, just like Naru.

A bunch of Anemones. But Naru is unique that her internal organs are affected but as we learned from the president the kids brains are affected. Probably a side effect of that Scub Burst 10 years ago.

KleenexGhost · 2012-07-20, 05:28

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

The subs are out so no need for spoiler tags.

Anyway, I don't think she has been brainwashed or anything. She made her own conclusions based on what she saw. Besides, she didn't say anything about the world being wrong like Truth claims. At any rate, we still don't know what she expects to achieve with all this.

On another note I thought this little exchange between Ao and Naru was interesting:

It seems all this time Ao has been thinking of Naru as a damsel in distress. But what Naru really wanted was to be with him as his equal. Ao baka.

I agree with Naru. Don't get me wrong, I understand Ao's motivations for wanting to save her, but she never asked him to save her or make her into that damsel in distress. I like that.

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sikvod00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 37	I liked the not-so-subtle homage they gave to the spectacular scene in E7 episode 26: Morning Glory. Instead of having Renton reaching out to grab a falling Eureka, it's her son. So, can anyone guess why Nirvash acted on its own and went after Truth after ejecting Eureka? According to Truth, it "hates" him.

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Axiszero The Forsaken Lurker Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Singapore	Eureka's child is a girl That means one thing is amiss, how long was the time between older sister's birth and Ao's birth ?

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Raincollie A certain collie of rain. Join Date: Jul 2012	I wonder- has anybody noticed the reference to E7's 2nd opening (Shounen Heart) in the new op? Compare 1:05~1:13 in the new OP to 1:12~1:21 in E7's 2nd opening, and you'll know what I mean. Protagonist LFO/IFO taking a curve, close-up on a machine gun, protagonist LFO/IFO's heavy weapon shot, enemy blows up, two explosions, one following the other, with the exact same impact. Also, the ED is kind of annoying.

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j0x Giga Drill Breaker Join Date: Jan 2009	elena is almost confirmed as a humanoid-coralian truth might be a humanoid-coralian too naru is mutating to be a humanoid-coralian elena and truth and naru hates eureka, wtf why? looks like the scub corals are misunderstood as enemies here but the secrets are also not the enemies as said by eureka on last episode so i guess the secrets are part of scub corals (coralians) too seems like eureka and renton are hated by coralians/secrets for some unknown reason/s and that renton is currently fighting somewhere and also Ao has a sister? might be either Naru or Elena it seems