The Character Discussion Thread of SOS団 Member: Yuki Nagato

[Stormwhite]

Spoiler for Vols. 4 & 9:

I consider it possible solely due to that the Sky Canopy Dominion are still a mystery as far as their powers go. They've already demonstrated they can alter reality, could they have hijacked Yuki? I don't consider it LIKELY, but possible? Yes.

Tbh, I'm not certain that Tanigawa has the plot fully planned out, considering how overdue Astonishment is.

[Jonbob0008]

To thoses who say that the Ryoko/Yuki fight was staged, I would say that a retcon would have to occur for me to buy that, since Tanigawa never meant to write more than Melancholy until it became a success.

Remember that this was before Yuki and Kyon were meant to develop anything close to chemistry, and the possibly of their ship didn't really exist until Disappearance. It more than likely that Tanigawa didn't intend for their ship to exist at that point, and that would ultimately make Ryoko nothing more than your friendly, neighborhood yandere villian who as ultimately acting on her own accord.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I'd say Disappearance pretty much sunk the ship before it ever left port.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Stormwhite

Spoiler for Vols. 4 & 9:

I consider it possible solely due to that the Sky Canopy Dominion are still a mystery as far as their powers go. They've already demonstrated they can alter reality, could they have hijacked Yuki? I don't consider it LIKELY, but possible? Yes.

Tbh, I'm not certain that Tanigawa has the plot fully planned out, considering how overdue Astonishment is.

I disagree. I don't care how popular your books are, unless you've proven you can spit out novels faster than Stephen King, no publisher, especially one as big as Kadokawa Shoten, is going to agree to publish, then announce, a direct sequel novel scheduled less than a year after the cliffhangered previous novel if they don't have at least a solid outline of what's going to happen. Kadokawa may not make a lot of sense, but they're not stupid. Either Kadokawa or Tanigawa decided mid-stream to go a different direction on the 10th novel and they've had one bitch of a rewrite, or Kadokawa decided they wanted to hold on to the more or less completed novel until some other event.

[kenjiharima]

Seems Nagato has another parody/spin off doujinshi.

Spoiler for Yuria 100% Shiki parody:

About Nagato and her 3 daughters gunning for Kyon. WTF?!
http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Well... at least the cover looks good.

[kenjiharima]

Iam a Yuria 100% Shiki fan also and Nagato is my favorite Haruhi character. So this is a win win doujin for me.

Wonder who are the 3 daughters? Ryoko? O_o

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Iam a Yuria 100% Shiki fan also and Nagato is my favorite Haruhi character. So this is a win win doujin for me.

Wonder who are the 3 daughters? Ryoko? O_o

Judging by the questionable translation given, I think the doujinshi is suggesting that the 3 Yuria sisters (Yuria, Juria, and Yu-rin) are the "daughters". Of course the original word may have been "musume", which while it often means "daughter", can often mean just "girl".

[Guernsey]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Judging by the questionable translation given, I think the doujinshi is suggesting that the 3 Yuria sisters (Yuria, Juria, and Yu-rin) are the "daughters". Of course the original word may have been "musume", which while it often means "daughter", can often mean just "girl".

Thank God. Otherwise it would feel awkward, Nagato having daughters at her "age".

[kenjiharima]

Iam just glad it's not H. Also they're androids they can physically look the same age even cloned humans.

[Otaku Emperor]

Originally Posted by Dakota

It's a Rei thread now, dammit. The reason that I don't like Nagato so much is because she is the new Rei. She's that someone who is so quiet, you can say anything to her and not have a responce (with two words or more).

And then she'll fuck you up in a fraction of a second.

Aw, how can you not like Nagato, she is adorable.

Whenever I see her, I feel like hugging her.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... I'd suggest you be careful about saying that sort of thing in the future... some Nagato fans are rather protective of her, after all, and might misinterpret your intentions.

[Otaku Emperor]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... I'd suggest you be careful about saying that sort of thing in the future... some Nagato fans are rather protective of her, after all, and might misinterpret your intentions.

Who me?

She does look cute and hugable though...

[Heatth]

No mind Kogetsu, he is just going yandere for Yuki, it is pretty normal. Anyway you quoted a post from days ago to add nothing to the discussion. You can't discuss who someone should like or not.

To (re)start that discussion about "Yuki=Rei2", I believe that, while the are very similar, probably on purpose(similar names and appearance), they have distintive enough personality and a completely different role in the story and relationship with the protagonists. So, while similar in a way, they are different characters.

Saying they are the same is like saying Luffy(One Piece) is the same as Goku(Dragon Ball), just because the former was based on the latter.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Heatth

No mind Kogetsu, he is just going yandere for Yuki, it is pretty normal.

I'd like to think I was rather reserved there. I didn't threaten him with a knife at all.

Originally Posted by Heatth

Saying they are the same is like saying Luffy(One Piece) is the same as Goku(Dragon Ball), just because the former was based on the latter.

The main difference there is that Luffy can get lost in the crowd of ridiculously powered characters that make up the One Piece cast, whereas Goku ended up being the entire focus of DB/Z.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

I'd like to think I was rather reserved there. I didn't threaten him with a knife at all.

That is true. Defitevely more less agressive then other posts of your.

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

The main difference there is that Luffy can get lost in the crowd of ridiculously powered characters that make up the One Piece cast, whereas Goku ended up being the entire focus of DB/Z.

Yeah. Luffy is very similar to Goku (specially Goku from before the Z series), being the key difference their position in the world. Since the begining, Goku is one of the most poweful beings in the earth, even meeting people who are stronger, he quickly surpass them. Luffy, by the other side, while incredible powerful and able to get the attention of the top guys in the world, still is, after 500+ chapters, just one more in the crowd when near to the real powerful ones.

Similarly, Yuki share a lot with Rei, same thematic name (snow/cold battleship/destroyer) artificial beings, quiets, like the protagonist for a similar reason... However, they are also a lot different. Kyon respond to Yuki's feelings differently then Shinji to Rei's. Their general role in the story is completely different, Yuki is the walking Deus Ex-Machina tha solve poblens and Rei is the creepy girl who "tell" more about Shinji background. In a quick glance they are the same, but few who watch both series would agree with it.

(I actually never watched any EVA series, a shame, I know, I only read teh manga and watched the End of Evangelion. So, I might be mistaken about something I said)

[Ithekro]

From my understanding, Rei was suppose to be the creepy girl the audiance wasn't suppose to like....as we can see, that backfired.

Yuki, on the other hand, turned that around. I'm fairly sure we are meant to like her fairly soon after we mean her, even if she was more of less background and provide the first real background plot elements (I am an alien and Haruhi isn't a normal human). She quickly switches from what could be very creepy to being the girl that will defend Kyon...also has a few other moments that bring her forward from being "creepy" and make her Yuki. First is the tea scene before the first infodump. She just keeps pouring after he finishes drinking. In the anime, I noted she has really tiny hands...but then I have this things for formal ceremonies that involve food or drink (What that wasn't a tea ceremony, it was still interesting to watch for me). Then their trip to the library. Finally the whole Ryoko fight and the ending about the glasses.

While she was first classed as another Rei-clone...she's overshadowed Rei, I think.

[Archon_Wing]

The similarities between the two are pretty superficial. Rei never really went anywhere, character-wise.

Spoiler for Evangelion:

Ok, near the end, but I really couldn't that that seriously

Yuki, however, is slowly evolving into something else as she interacts with Kyon.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Nagato pretty much started where Rei left off... It's not really a fair comparison, to be honest.

[aegisofrime]

While we are on Yuki/Rei comparisons, I hope you guys won't mind helping me to settle this argument I had with my friend.

Motoko Kusanagi vs Yuki Nagato. Who will win in a no-holds barred fight? I argue that Yuki operates on a totally different level from Motoko; She can manipulate space-time itself, hell if she wanted to she can turn Motoko into a block of wood. For some reason my friend refuses to accept this.

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