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jedinat · 2010-09-09, 19:29

I dunno. I've never played any other Kingdom Hearts game beyond a few minutes, so maybe I don't have the "proper" perspective going in. The game is way too vague and vacuous... vague story, boring characters that might have been randomly grabbed from any FF game, shallow and pointless Disney movie tie-ins... largely empty environments with no sense of place, enemies that appear out of nowhere for no reason, attacks that feel unsatisfying, unreliable camera... I see nothing that might instigate all this praise I see by fans other than the bare fact that it's another Kingdom Hearts game with rather high production values...

SilverSyko · 2010-09-09, 22:45

How bout we just say Kingdom Hearts is an RPG for those who don't like RPG's? Cause that's pretty much the case with me.

Kingdom Hearts is an RPG heavily mixed with action/adventure elements and some platforming, so it's probably not for you if you often play more "traditional" RPG's.

Kyero Fox · 2010-09-09, 23:28

omg i shouldnt have picked Critical. Vanites is such a prick in the 2nd fight with Aqua... "oh your gonna heal when im doing a short ranged attack?HA!" *cheap teleport lightning attack*

yea wonna be a cheap ass? *goes to Overlevel*

Von Himmel · 2010-09-10, 02:06

I got this game in english at last, and just to found out that my analog stick is broken.

FFFFFU-

At least I managed to get to Cinderella in Terra's critical mode. It's actually pretty hard considering that sometimes my character would stop moving because an error in my analog stick @_@

Kyero Fox · 2010-09-10, 07:13

yea my triggers are busted. so sometimes the game wont lock on or move the camra =\ really annoying.

DragoZERO · 2010-09-10, 12:37

Well, I just placed my order on Amazon for the game. How is the difficulty levels? KH and KH2 were easy on expert so...lol.

SilverSyko · 2010-09-10, 12:42

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Well, I just placed my order on Amazon for the game. How is the difficulty levels? KH and KH2 were easy on expert so...lol.

BBS has Critical difficulty, just like KH2 Final Mix had. I'm not sure what all the specifications are, but I know the the max HP total on this difficulty is a lot lower.

Shiroth · 2010-09-10, 13:25

Thankfully i was able to find a game store that was selling the game today. Played about an hour, and already i'd say it's the best game in the series

. The changes to the battle system really make this a much better all around experience of a game. Of course i started with Alpha, with that being very obvious.

Quick question, how often do you guys use the D-links?

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Well, I just placed my order on Amazon for the game. How is the difficulty levels? KH and KH2 were easy on expert so...lol.

The fact that the game is no longer just a button basher changes the difficult level. You'll see what i mean when the battles start.

DragoZERO · 2010-09-10, 14:01

I might do normal difficulty then. I don't want to have to go back and play the same boss over and over, I've been very time constrained lately.

Shiroth · 2010-09-10, 14:07

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

I might do normal difficulty then. I don't want to have to go back and play the same boss over and over, I've been very time constrained lately.

Yeah that's a good choice. You'll be playing through the game three times with the trio, so you can always up a difficulty on the next playthrough.

DragoZERO · 2010-09-10, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Shiroth

Yeah that's a good choice. You'll be playing through the game three times with the trio, so you can always up a difficulty on the next playthrough.

Is that how they have it set up? That's cool. I wonder who I'll do first...lol.

k//eternal · 2010-09-10, 16:21

Don't play anything below Proud, or (unless they changed the requirements from the JP version) you won't be able to play the final story. If you use your head a bit, the new system isn't harder than the previous ones, and in my last playthrough each story took about 10 hours or less on Critical difficulty.

That's after playing through the JP version on Proud and it'll take closer to 15 for a new player, so don't worry too much about game length.

I recommend starting with Ventus' story (easiest bosses and balanced character, although his final battle is a little hairy), then Aqua's (strongest character but some nastier boss fights), then Terra's (worst character, hardest bosses). It's up to you, but that should give you the best difficulty progression.

Kyero Fox · 2010-09-10, 16:25

I just read up on Kingdom hearts COded and apparently Sora is going to save aqua ven terra. and so I edit my fanfic, where my OC is there with the 3 waiting to be saved.

So i was thinking of just a solo colored pic of my OC pointing to his heart with his thumb and a smile (as his heart are glows) sayin "I know He's coming because of this!"

SilverSyko · 2010-09-10, 16:32

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Originally Posted by k//eternal

Don't play anything below Proud, or (unless they changed the requirements from the JP version) you won't be able to play the final story.

You can't see the real ending if you play on the easier difficulties? God what a rip. Guess I'll have to look it up on Youtube or something then.

Oh and Terra was actually the easiest character for me. His final fight was a little tough but I managed to pull through. Guess it's just cause his playstyle suits me the most. (Offensive rushdown.)

Anyway...

Spoiler for Optional Boss Spoilers:

k//eternal · 2010-09-10, 16:52

Terra is the best at the beginning of the game and is a total tank (has the best HP and Strength), but doesn't have the Snow White and Mickey D-links (which are amazing... the former nets you tons of items due to early-game access to Treasure Raid, and Mickey has 2x Exp when maxed) and lacks solid magic. On Critical (and to a lesser extent Proud), having more HP isn't very helpful because of the amount of damage enemies can dish out (so that you're mostly relying on Second Chance and Once More to survive at the end of the game).

That's my opinion and it's affected by my playstyle, but it's generally not disputed that he has the hardest final boss.

Aqua is horrible at the beginning of the game, though, because she does almost no physical damage and you don't have access to good magic. And she can't D-link herself, so you don't start the game with access to healing magic, of course.

SilverSyko · 2010-09-10, 17:28

I never use D-Links. So that may be a factor in why I found Terra my best character. xD;

Anyway, I looked around and it looks like the conditions for the Final Episode are to beat all 3 stories on ANY difficulty and get all 13 Xehanort Reports. I'm relieved.

The secret ending is the only thing that's easier to get on higher difficulties.

k//eternal · 2010-09-10, 18:19

Oh good. In the JP version you had to get all the Xeha Reports on Proud to unlock Final Episode, which I felt was pretty unreasonable.

Kyero Fox · 2010-09-10, 18:38

FYI guys, the secret boss is this guy

note, two swords(energy swords) both wielded backwards, and this is a obvious joke XD if they add star wars to KH -_-

Von Himmel · 2010-09-11, 05:19

The new boss is perhaps someone from the future..

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Thankfully i was able to find a game store that was selling the game today. Played about an hour, and already i'd say it's the best game in the series . The changes to the battle system really make this a much better all around experience of a game. Of course i started with Alpha, with that being very obvious.

I agree with you

Personally, I think the system is the best and the game itself is one of the hardest game compared to the other games

I think it's like playing KH 2 but without the so convenient system of Reaction commands

Shiroth · 2010-09-11, 12:34

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Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Is that how they have it set up? That's cool. I wonder who I'll do first...lol.

Thankfully you get a chance to handle the three characters before you make the choice, so that should help you decide. I went with Aqua for the obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by k//eternal

Aqua is horrible at the beginning of the game, though, because she does almost no physical damage and you don't have access to good magic. And she can't D-link herself, so you don't start the game with access to healing magic, of course.

Thankfully i was able to get a hold of cure in the command board, though that was just a lucky chance really.

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Originally Posted by SilverSyko

I never use D-Links.

Really? I was thinking they'd be needed at a later date, though it's good to hear that they're not necessary. I'll still use them now and then though, because i'd hate to see them go to waste. :3

2010-09-09, 22:45	Link #102
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	How bout we just say Kingdom Hearts is an RPG for those who don't like RPG's? Cause that's pretty much the case with me. Kingdom Hearts is an RPG heavily mixed with action/adventure elements and some platforming, so it's probably not for you if you often play more "traditional" RPG's. __________________

2010-09-09, 23:28	Link #103
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	omg i shouldnt have picked Critical. Vanites is such a prick in the 2nd fight with Aqua... "oh your gonna heal when im doing a short ranged attack?HA!" cheap teleport lightning attack yea wonna be a cheap ass? goes to Overlevel __________________

2010-09-10, 02:06	Link #104
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	I got this game in english at last, and just to found out that my analog stick is broken. FFFFFU- At least I managed to get to Cinderella in Terra's critical mode. It's actually pretty hard considering that sometimes my character would stop moving because an error in my analog stick @_@ __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2010-09-10, 07:13	Link #105
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	yea my triggers are busted. so sometimes the game wont lock on or move the camra =\ really annoying. __________________

2010-09-10, 12:37	Link #106
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	Well, I just placed my order on Amazon for the game. How is the difficulty levels? KH and KH2 were easy on expert so...lol. __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2010-09-09, 19:29	Link #101
jedinat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	I dunno. I've never played any other Kingdom Hearts game beyond a few minutes, so maybe I don't have the "proper" perspective going in. The game is way too vague and vacuous... vague story, boring characters that might have been randomly grabbed from any FF game, shallow and pointless Disney movie tie-ins... largely empty environments with no sense of place, enemies that appear out of nowhere for no reason, attacks that feel unsatisfying, unreliable camera... I see nothing that might instigate all this praise I see by fans other than the bare fact that it's another Kingdom Hearts game with rather high production values...

2010-09-10, 14:01	Link #109
DragoZERO Spoilaphobic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Age: 37	I might do normal difficulty then. I don't want to have to go back and play the same boss over and over, I've been very time constrained lately. __________________ • Anime List \| Manga List \| Manga Thread Template •

2010-09-10, 16:21	Link #112
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	Don't play anything below Proud, or (unless they changed the requirements from the JP version) you won't be able to play the final story. If you use your head a bit, the new system isn't harder than the previous ones, and in my last playthrough each story took about 10 hours or less on Critical difficulty. That's after playing through the JP version on Proud and it'll take closer to 15 for a new player, so don't worry too much about game length. I recommend starting with Ventus' story (easiest bosses and balanced character, although his final battle is a little hairy), then Aqua's (strongest character but some nastier boss fights), then Terra's (worst character, hardest bosses). It's up to you, but that should give you the best difficulty progression.

2010-09-10, 16:25	Link #113
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	I just read up on Kingdom hearts COded and apparently Sora is going to save aqua ven terra. and so I edit my fanfic, where my OC is there with the 3 waiting to be saved. So i was thinking of just a solo colored pic of my OC pointing to his heart with his thumb and a smile (as his heart are glows) sayin "I know He's coming because of this!" __________________

2010-09-10, 16:52	Link #115
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	Terra is the best at the beginning of the game and is a total tank (has the best HP and Strength), but doesn't have the Snow White and Mickey D-links (which are amazing... the former nets you tons of items due to early-game access to Treasure Raid, and Mickey has 2x Exp when maxed) and lacks solid magic. On Critical (and to a lesser extent Proud), having more HP isn't very helpful because of the amount of damage enemies can dish out (so that you're mostly relying on Second Chance and Once More to survive at the end of the game). That's my opinion and it's affected by my playstyle, but it's generally not disputed that he has the hardest final boss. Aqua is horrible at the beginning of the game, though, because she does almost no physical damage and you don't have access to good magic. And she can't D-link herself, so you don't start the game with access to healing magic, of course.

2010-09-10, 17:28	Link #116
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	I never use D-Links. So that may be a factor in why I found Terra my best character. xD; Anyway, I looked around and it looks like the conditions for the Final Episode are to beat all 3 stories on ANY difficulty and get all 13 Xehanort Reports. I'm relieved. The secret ending is the only thing that's easier to get on higher difficulties. __________________

2010-09-10, 18:19	Link #117
k//eternal do you know ベアトリーチェ様? Join Date: Dec 2003 Age: 35	Oh good. In the JP version you had to get all the Xeha Reports on Proud to unlock Final Episode, which I felt was pretty unreasonable.

2010-09-10, 18:38	Link #118
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	FYI guys, the secret boss is this guy <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/k2DPAvWKaOs">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> note, two swords(energy swords) both wielded backwards, and this is a obvious joke XD if they add star wars to KH -_- __________________