Fate/ Series Q&A

[edf91]

Originally Posted by iamandragon

The biggest potential for UBW is that it contains all the materials needed for tracing swords, say a normal tracing costs 5 prana--in UBW it'll cost only 2. Not too much, but when you trace a lot of swords it'll help. Also it reduces the time needed for tracing as there is no need for the Archer/Shirou to materialize the sword. All he has to is gather the materials, put them together in a frame and that's it.

I thought when UBW is running, when Shirou/Archer is tracing swords, there is no prana cost - only prana cost is the cost to keep UBW up. Otherwise, it would be difficult to keep up with "Goldy" in sword spam, as even at reduced cost, tracing so many high quality sword at once cost a lot of prana.

[Utter_iMADNESS]

I feel stupid asking this but what exactly is prana? Is it like manna, but for noble phantasms?

[Fate lover]

Originally Posted by Utter_iMADNESS

I feel stupid asking this but what exactly is prana? Is it like manna, but for noble phantasms?

I think so. I think it is another term for mana.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by edf91

I thought when UBW is running, when Shirou/Archer is tracing swords, there is no prana cost - only prana cost is the cost to keep UBW up. Otherwise, it would be difficult to keep up with "Goldy" in sword spam, as even at reduced cost, tracing so many high quality sword at once cost a lot of prana.

No, UBW only conserves mana in tracing...there's still mana needed in putting the materials together...the most mana costy bit of Shirou/Archer's tracing is to create the materials, the rest is just concentration...

Originally Posted by Utter_iMADNESS

I feel stupid asking this but what exactly is prana? Is it like manna, but for noble phantasms?

Prana means life force--but yeah, you can think it as mana...

[Alaya]

Prana is not exactly mana. Mana is magical or spiritual energy magi gather from environment around them. But to cast a spell, you need to convert mana into usable form of magical energy using Magic Circuit and sometimes you mix your Od or life force into it. The result is prana.

Scheme would be: Mana + Od -----------> Convert by Magic Circuits -----------> Prana

Explaination from Fuyuki Wiki by arai:

Circuits

魔術回路 - Majutsu Kairo

The pseudo-nerves within a magus' body. What produces one's own Prana and the pipeline that moves the system or to be more precise, the pathways to convert life energy into Prana, the pathways that take in and convert Mana into something usable, and the pathways that connect to the high thaumaturgy formula (program) systems. What connects the ethereal body to the material plane. What magi are ultimately using is Od, converted life-force and Mana. It's not really correct to say that Mana's being used to cast spells. When Mana itself is being drawn upon, it follows the rules laid out by Formalcraft (see below), which doesn't seem to operate by the generation rules of circuits.

The number of these are determined at birth. Lineages do what they can to tamper with their blood in order to birth a heir with even just one more circuit. Once opened, these can be turned on and off at one's will.

Prana

魔力 - Maryoku

Magic force. The substance needed to activate thaumaturgy. Also said to be the source of life, or life force itself. (Well souls, mental energy, blood, etc. can be processed into Od by the soul/mind/blood-sucker so....)

Prana is divided into two types, Mana and Od (Odic Force). Mana is the breath of the planet spread through the world, nature. Od is energy found in organisms. Od, once used up, will regenerate over time. Mana also will regenerate, but that takes time. For a general amount of how much Mana is in a given area, the giant cavern underneath Ryuudouji had approximately 1000 points.

...On the other hand, Prana can't exist independently of either as it only exists within objects, which is why it is sent through objects or used as a starter to conduct nature interference. By itself, unaligned/stained Prana won't do anything. Examples of unstained or "chromatic" Prana are Eirei that have been defeated and lost their Servant class (shell); ie souls. In that case, however, the energy doesn't belong to the current world so it will forcefully be returned to a/the originating Throne.

...Of course, there are exceptions, like the Einzbern Holy Grail and incarnated demons in which miracles can be performed just by releasing that energy.

For the reason why Shirou/Archer's Reality Marble is named Unlimited Blade Works, that because they can trace all kind of blade weapons inside their RM, not only swords. That include Gae Bulg, Gungnir, polearms, axes, etc. They still need mana to create weapons. Taken from Fuyuki Wiki:

Unlimited Blade Works

無限の剣製 - Mugen no kensei

Shirou and Archer's Reality Marble.
Treated like a Noble Phantasm, but to be accurate, it's thaumaturgy (Reality Marble) that's free from penalties. In this Reality Marble, the substances needed to form all swords are present. Just by looking at the original, it is possible to replicate it. However, the replicated weapon is lowered by one rank. Defensive armaments are possible but the normal projection cost is two to three times the regular amount of Prana used in making swords. A weapon replicated once is recorded in the barrier and can be made without activating the Reality Marble using tracing thaumaturgy. Against a normal opponent, it's only an ability that's somewhat troublesome, but it's the ultimate counter against a certain king of heroes. The substances involved in the creation of Ea are probably not inside it. Creation of Excalibur is possible, but not a perfect version of it. It's also likely that using its energy blast would result in him using up all of his Prana, hence it would be a suicide attack for him, which is why he never traces it even just as a normal weapon; his personally developed close-combat technique with his twin swords is better suited for him and Shirou (although raw power might be less).

The applied use of UBW without expanding the Reality Marble itself are both Shirou and Archer's Reinforcement and Tracing.

Note that (in regards to weapons destroyed or used within UBW) there is a continuous expenditure of Prana from RM formation to sustain it, however, the weapons already prepared at formation of bounded barrier do not cost Prana. However, (while expanded) remaking a destroyed weapon or making a new weapon that hadn't been present at expansion of UBW will cost an extremely large amount of Prana.

For Gae Bolg, taken from Fuyuki Wiki:

Gae Bolg - The Spear of Impaling Barbed Death/The Spear of Striking Death Flight

The spear that had only taken the lives of the ones Cu Chulainn loved.

A cursed spear that will always go through the heart of the opponent when struck. Reverses causality in which the spear is launched after the truth that the heart had already been hit had been constructed. Since the spear had already hit the target, no matter what he might do, he can't avoid it. Surviving through Gae Bolg will require an auto-resurrect Noble Phantasm or high LCK or a defensive barrier that surpasses the Prana of Gae Bolg. Damage taken by Gae Bolg will not be able to be recovered from as long as Gae Bolg continues to exist (not exactly true, but well, close enough: Avalon was able to allow recovery: this also applies to normal mode Gae Bolg). Prana consumption is relatively low compared to its destiny interference ability and it can be used 7 times without needing to be refilled. Gae Bolg's true ability is as a thrown weapon, however, in which the full power of the curse of Gae Bolg is unleashed. Emphasis in this case is on destructive power rather than targeting accuracy. Damage and form are approaching that of Lugh's Brionac, but the power of "striking the enemy no matter how many times he may dodge" comes from Odin's Gungnir.

Gilgamesh has the base of this in his vault (and used to strike Berserker in the heart).

If Fragarach is a curse that switches the order of attack, Gae Bolg is a cursed spear that reverses causality. Even if Fragarach rewrites the fact that Gae Bolg was hurled first, it'll just wind back. The moment Gae Bolg's true name was released, Gae Bolg already held the result of hitting the heart. Even if time is returned to the point before activation and kills the user, it's meaningless. The spear having the result of piercing a heart will fulfill its role even if its master's died before he could initiate his attack.

Impaling Barbed Death will even kill Arc provided her luck roll fails. Also, Impaling Barbed Death (and probably Death Flight) will turn into a thousand thorns upon impact.

The Spear of Impaling Barbed Death
Rank: B
Type: Anti-personnel
Range: 2-4
Max AOE: 1

The Spear of Striking Death Flight
Range: B+
Type: Anti-battalion
Range: 5-40
Max AOE: 40

Oh I forget to fix my mistake in last post about Heroic Spirit, they do have their record of what happened sent to the Throne, but not something they gain or learn. From Fuyuki Wiki:

Copies/emanations/projections are sent out from the Throne of Heroes across all times. What is gained and learned from the emanation is not carried on over to the Heroic Spirit to prevent any paradoxes in what ought to be a completed/perfected/finished being. However, the record of what happened is returned to (or rather, has always been in) the Throne, as well as the power that was sent out to solve the problem. This applies to all Heroic Spirits, not just Archer.

[iamandragon]

That about explains everything clearly...please not that just because it has 'wiki' in it, doesn't mean Fuyuki wiki is inaccurate--in fact information there is quite accurate...

[Reincarnated_Avenger]

Originally Posted by Alaya

Unlimited Blade Works

無限の剣製 - Mugen no kensei

Shirou and Archer's Reality Marble.
Treated like a Noble Phantasm, but to be accurate, it's thaumaturgy (Reality Marble) that's free from penalties. In this Reality Marble, the substances needed to form all swords are present. Just by looking at the original, it is possible to replicate it. However, the replicated weapon is lowered by one rank. Defensive armaments are possible but the normal projection cost is two to three times the regular amount of Prana used in making swords. A weapon replicated once is recorded in the barrier and can be made without activating the Reality Marble using tracing thaumaturgy. Against a normal opponent, it's only an ability that's somewhat troublesome, but it's the ultimate counter against a certain king of heroes. The substances involved in the creation of Ea are probably not inside it. Creation of Excalibur is possible, but not a perfect version of it. It's also likely that using its energy blast would result in him using up all of his Prana, hence it would be a suicide attack for him, which is why he never traces it even just as a normal weapon; his personally developed close-combat technique with his twin swords is better suited for him and Shirou (although raw power might be less).

The applied use of UBW without expanding the Reality Marble itself are both Shirou and Archer's Reinforcement and Tracing.

Note that (in regards to weapons destroyed or used within UBW) there is a continuous expenditure of Prana from RM formation to sustain it, however, the weapons already prepared at formation of bounded barrier do not cost Prana. However, (while expanded) remaking a destroyed weapon or making a new weapon that hadn't been present at expansion of UBW will cost an extremely large amount of Prana.

What do you mean its an ultimate counter against certain hero of king? I havent seen any noble phatasm that Archer can use to counter Gilgamesh EA cept Excallibur with the sheath avalon. Or is that how hes going to counter it? With Arthuria's/Saber's sword?

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated_Avenger

What do you mean its an ultimate counter against certain hero of king? I havent seen any noble phatasm that Archer can use to counter Gilgamesh EA cept Excallibur with the sheath avalon. Or is that how hes going to counter it? With Arthuria's/Saber's sword?

Simple--because UBW already has the weapons made, it is much faster than taking them out from Gate of Babylon: all Archer/Shirou need to do is to identify Gilgamesh's weapon, take the same one out have them cancel out each other, which makes Gate of Babylon completely useless.

The only weapon that can't be traced is Ea, which takes too long for Gil to charge up and Shirou/Archer can simply trace any weapon out and chop of Gil's hands off so he can't use Ea...

P.S.-Avalon can't be traced and used by Archer, mainly because he does not have any direct connections with Saber; while Shirou in UBW/HF can't trace Avalon because he have never seen it.

[Reincarnated_Avenger]

Okay but i still cant see how archer use those if Gilgamesh decided to spam his GOB I mean its hard to trace different types of NP at the same time right? And i just want to confirm something. Can archer levitate the swords in his reality marble and launch them at his enemy?

Also i heard each classes give servants abilities which they don't usually have. Like magic nullifying for those in saber class. Can somebody tell me what other classes abilities are?

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated_Avenger

Okay but i still cant see how archer use those if Gilgamesh decided to spam his GOB I mean its hard to trace different types of NP at the same time right? And i just want to confirm something. Can archer levitate the swords in his reality marble and launch them at his enemy?

Also i heard each classes give servants abilities which they don't usually have. Like magic nullifying for those in saber class. Can somebody tell me what other classes abilities are?

It is possible and in fact, very easy to trace many different noble phantasms at the same time--even Shirou managed it without problem. And yes, they can be shot like an arrow the way Gil does, as demonstrated by Shirou(again) in UBW.

The following abilities are granted to each class:

Spoiler for Sabers:

#Magic Resistance--gives resistance against magic, usually a high rank. This makes saber class servants the natural enemy for caster class servants.
#Riding--grants the ability to ride, usually a medium-high rank. Saber's riding is B, which allows her to ride and control anything but demonic beasts and divine creatures. As long as the concept is riding, it doesn't matter--she could even 'ride' a motor cycle, a racing car and even a plane(according to Saber in F/Z)
#Also, saber class servants tend to have high Strength and high ranked Noble Phantasms.

Spoiler for Lancers:

#Magic Resistance--usually a medium to low rank. Note that the runes on Lancer's Gae Bolg is not what gives him Magic Resistance.
#Also, lancer class servants tend to have high Agility and bad luck, with a tendency to hold anti-personal Noble Phantasms rather than anti-army/castle/world Noble Phantasms.

Spoiler for Archers:

#Maigc Resistance--usually at a low rank. Grants the servant the protection against magic, and it only weakens them instead of nullify them the way saber and lancer class servants do.
#Independent Action--grants the servant independence from their master. Ability to resist and bad mouth their masters better than any other servants as they can fight and maintain a physical body even without their master's mana supply(for limited time period, 2 days for Archer)
#Also, archer class servants tend to have low stats, but with Noble Phantasms with power that is off the scale.

Spoiler for Riders:

#Magic Resistance--usually at a medium rank. Grants the servant immunity against modern magic attacks.
#Riding--allows the servant to Ride virtually anything, even phantasm beasts. However dragons are not on the list of 'can ride' targets...
#Also, rider class servants tends to have anti-army Noble Phantasms and Noble Phantasms with high speed.

Spoiler for Casters:

#Territory Creation--allows the servant to create a workshop that's even better than masters, which grants them tremendous advantage when fighting inside.
#Tool Creation--allows the servant to create a magical artifact.
#Also, caster class servants tends to have high mana and low strength and agility, making them very vulnerable to classes with high magic resistance(such as saber and rider)

Spoiler for Berserkers:

#Madess--||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||!!!!!!
#Also, berserker class servants tend to have high stats due to mad enchantment but no Noble Phantasms(they can't speak, so they can't unleash them...)

Spoiler for Assassins:

#Presence Concealment--allows the servant to hide away their presence confine all their mana within their body without having them leak out.
#Also, assassin class servants tends to have low stats with good agility and weak Noble Phantasms that are anti-personal.

[Alaya]

Shirou can trace 16 Noble Phantasm simultaneously without activating UBW and they're range projection too. In his Reality Marble, what he need to do is think about what to trace (and not consciously thinking about the weapons name too) and it's there.

For Ea, if Gilgy use it much earlier in the fight, Shirou/Archer chance would be reduced. It might take some time to charge, but it's not that long either. Also, if Archer/Shirou haven't chant their spells yet, he doesn't need to fully charge Ea too.

Since I'm free, let me post the Noble Phantasm stat and detail from Fuyuki's Wiki (and yes, this Wiki is very detailed, accurate and reliable)

Noble Phantasms

宝具

Crystallized "mysteries". Armaments made using the imagination of humans as their cores and the weapons of Heroic Spirits.

Being legendary, Noble Phantasms are far greater than other weapons. In terms of status, a C ranked Noble Phantasm is the equivalent of an A or A+ ranked normal attack.

Swords, lances, bows are among the more common ones. There are also support-type Noble Phantasms like crowns and rings.

By channeling Prana into them and releasing their true names, the real power of the Noble Phantasm is unleashed. To that effect, only the true master of the Noble Phantasm can use it. Gae Bolg can't be used by anyone other than Cu Chulainn, etc.

Of course... not all Heroic Spirits have Noble Phantasms that fall under the above definition. EMIYA's Reality Marble is technically not a Noble Phantasm. Rider's many abilities are more or less abilities she carried on as a divine spirit. Berserker and Angra Mainyu's Noble Phantasms are curses that are treated like armor. However, as they are heroes, they are naturally going to have signature powers that operate as their symbols.

Most Noble Phantasms are based on an original. The general rule for Noble Phantasms according to Goldy is the "son can't defeat the father," because with each cycle of transmigration a weapon undergoes, it becomes weaker. The actual fact is that Shirou's projected Caliburn had less power against Gilgamesh's Gram (Merodach) than during the fight against Berserker.

One possible (AKA really, really, really improbable) interpretation is that Noble Phantasms are/were actual physical objects that gain power due to the association of a past legend or a currently "ongoing legend". Therefore, continued use of a particular weapon that becomes a symbol of somebody infamous (such as the Red Baron's plane or an even stupider example....Amuro's RX-78) will eventually turn that weapon into a "mystery" or what not, as long as it's recognized in some form by humanity. On the other end of this are weapons and armor that just use the concepts of human beliefs, instead of the physical object as well, and are then processed by the planet or the gods into "real" weapons.

It should be noted that mystic eyes are not counted as being Noble Phantasms for some reason.

The current number of existing Noble Phantasms (probably best thought of as "epic treasures") is very small, but they still exist in the material world.


Armor/Defense

Avalon - The Ever Distant Utopia
The normal ability is healing injuries and preventing aging. Activation as a Noble Phantasm causes it to come apart in hundreds of pieces and completely protect its user from all forms of interference, a mobile fortress. Shuts (not blocks or reflects, but shuts) out all physical interference, transliners from parallel worlds, and multidimensional (multiplanar; as far as the 6th) contact; including all of the five magics. A Noble Phantasm on the level of magic. The greatest protection in the world.
Incidentally, it can't reflect energy bolts like in the anime. Hell it didn't even do that in the game when Ea was used against Avalon in the real last battle. Rank: EX
Type: Bounded Barrier
Max AOE: 1 unit

God Hand - The Twelve Trials
The normal ability is canceling any damage of B or below. Noble Phantasm ability is an extra 11 lives (yes 11 lives, not 12, meaning he has to be killed a total of twelve times). It's effectively an armor coating the body. The reason why Berserker looks grey is because of the God Hand. A blessing or rather a curse the gods gave to Hercules (hence, it isn't the materialized interpretation of his trials, it's an actual gift bestowed by the gods). Ever since Hercules gained this, no one has been able to do any damage to him. Confirmed that God Hand will actually develop resistance to damage taken once. The game hints that the lives actually regenerate. Seriously. Also see Conceptual Armament entry on God Hand.
Rank: B
Type: Anti-personnel
Max AOE: 1 unit

Rho Aias - The Seven Rings that Cover the Fiery Heavens
A bronze shield covered with seven layers of oxhide that kept back the javelin of Hector. Of course, the javelin penetrated up to the 7th layer. It now looks like the petals of a flower when used. Each petal is said to have the defensive strength of a fortress that would repulse any incoming weapons. Archer has seven petals, Shirou has four. The sole defensive armament Archer has proficiency in. It's also the cause of many jokes when mixed with Gae Bolg.


Support

Bellerophon - Bridle of Chivalry
A bridle and saddle set. An unusual type of Noble Phantasm that has no effect by itself. It looks like a golden rope when materialized. When used on a pegasus, its limiter is cut, increasing all stats by one rank. Defensive power also increases several times (AC is increased by 100 points), the maximum speed is 400-500km/h. Even without the bridle, the defensive power of the pegasus is overwhelming enough to be invulnerable to most weapons and spells. Note that the pegasus itself isn't the Noble Phantasm. It has to be first or simultaneously summoned using a summoning circle.
Rank: A+
Type: Anti-battalion
Range: 2-50
Max AOE: 300 units

Erukidu - Chain of Heaven
The Noble Phantasm that Gilgamesh trusted the most, even more so than Ea. One of the few anti-god weapons that has the power to "reign over the gods". The higher the divinity, the stronger it is. Against those with no divinity, it's about as much trouble as a tough chain. I also have no idea how this is spelled. This could actually really be a typo of Enkidu.

Gate of Babylon - The King's Treasure
The key-like sword (which is the Noble Phantasm itself, not the vault) to enter the golden capital of Gilgamesh. It opens a portal in space that allows him to take out the items inside as he pleases. Goes without saying that the more wealth he has, the stronger a Noble Phantasm this is. Weapons in it can be thrown out like projectiles or taken out normally. Strictly speaking, the weapons inside it aren't Noble Phantasms but the prototypes of them, or one way of putting it, nameless/fameless Noble Phantasms. The most dangerous thing for other Servants though is as Gilgamesh has most of the weapons that became Noble Phantasms in his vault, most often he'll have a weapon that had been their weakness when they have been alive.
Rank: E-A++ (of course Ea is also in the Gate so technically he does have one EX weapon in it)
Type: Anti-personnel

From Fate/Zero but I really like it too:

Spoiler for Fate/Zero Rider:

Ionian Hetairoi - Army of the King
Rank EX anti-army NP. The field of battle that Iskandar's forces raced through in the past. The landscape burned into the hearts of the heroes that Iskandar fought and emerged victorious with.
Almost like a Realiy Marble, but the difference of this is that it isn't Iskandar's personal internal world, it's the combined one of Iskandar and all of his companions. Once activated, Iskandar's past comrades (including Bucephalus) materialize one after another; legendary heroes offered to the world as Heroic Spirits after death, but still show their eternal loyalty and answer Iskandar's call.

Essentially, continuous summoning of independent Servants. Numbers aren't given, but it should easily surpass 100 Hassans.

Rule Breaker - Destroyer of All Talismans
A knife that will destroy any sort of thaumaturgy. Objects reinforced with Prana, connections bounded through contracts, creatures made through Prana will be returned to a state before "they were made". Of course, there's a limit to this. No matter how low the rank of a Noble Phantasm, Rule Breaker is unable to return it to its original state.
Rank: C
Type: Anti-thaumaturgy
Range: 1
Max AOE: 1 unit

Curse

Fragarach - The Sword of the Gorging War God.
Full name - Answerer Fragarach - That Which Comes Later Cuts First, the Sword of the Gorging War God.

Sword of Retrograde. The ultimate counter-attack weapon. A conceptual curse that warps destiny. A divine trick that uses time as a weapon. Really the equivalent of a bolt of light when used but the extra effect that it makes is what makes it useful. Warps causality to always strike the opponent right before he unleashes his ultimate attack; even if the attack of the enemy is made first, the fact that it happens is rewritten so that Fragarach hits it before. What Fragarach gorges out isn't the heart of the enemy, but the destiny of both user and enemy simultaneously killing each other. The attack of the enemy that's released is wiped out as it's returned into an attack that "couldn't happen," the law of the world, the absolute system of time. After all, no matter how powerful or fast the attack is, it won't do anything because the enemy that is defeated first won't have a chance to attack.

One of the few remaining Noble Phantasms maintained by the Fraga bloodline. Made by pouring Bazett's blood on a ball of metal, conducting a ritual, and leaving it in the basement for one month. Around ten can be made per year using this method. Doesn't really sound fair at all.

When in use, the metal ball floats around Bazett. Activation is initiated in response to the trump card where it then generates a blade followed by Bazett punching it. A container is used to hold a fair number of balls.

It's powerful but not as good against those that can resurrect themselves after being killed once (Berserker). Also, only responds that way in regards to the trump card of the opponent, whether it's a Noble Phantasm or not. Can be used normally, but it is the equivalent of a C or D ranked Noble Phantasm when used without those special conditions (the non-Answerer effect).

As for it's effects against opponents with abilities other than that, one thing to keep in mind is that concepts are defeated by concepts.

Gae Bolg - The Spear of Impaling Barbed Death/The Spear of Striking Death Flight

The spear that had only taken the lives of the ones Cu Chulainn loved.

A cursed spear that will always go through the heart of the opponent when struck. Reverses causality in which the spear is launched after the truth that the heart had already been hit had been constructed. Since the spear had already hit the target, no matter what he might do, he can't avoid it. Surviving through Gae Bolg will require an auto-resurrect Noble Phantasm or high LCK or a defensive barrier that surpasses the Prana of Gae Bolg. Damage taken by Gae Bolg will not be able to be recovered from as long as Gae Bolg continues to exist (not exactly true, but well, close enough: Avalon was able to allow recovery: this also applies to normal mode Gae Bolg). Prana consumption is relatively low compared to its destiny interference ability and it can be used 7 times without needing to be refilled. Gae Bolg's true ability is as a thrown weapon, however, in which the full power of the curse of Gae Bolg is unleashed. Emphasis in this case is on destructive power rather than targeting accuracy. Damage and form are approaching that of Lugh's Brionac, but the power of "striking the enemy no matter how many times he may dodge" comes from Odin's Gungnir.

Gilgamesh has the base of this in his vault (and used to strike Berserker in the heart).

If Fragarach is a curse that switches the order of attack, Gae Bolg is a cursed spear that reverses causality. Even if Fragarach rewrites the fact that Gae Bolg was hurled first, it'll just wind back. The moment Gae Bolg's true name was released, Gae Bolg already held the result of hitting the heart. Even if time is returned to the point before activation and kills the user, it's meaningless. The spear having the result of piercing a heart will fulfill its role even if its master's died before he could initiate his attack.

Impaling Barbed Death will even kill Arc provided her luck roll fails. Also, Impaling Barbed Death (and probably Death Flight) will turn into a thousand thorns upon impact.

The Spear of Impaling Barbed Death
Rank: B
Type: Anti-personnel
Range: 2-4
Max AOE: 1

The Spear of Striking Death Flight
Range: B+
Type: Anti-battalion
Range: 5-40
Max AOE: 40

Angra Mainyu - All the World's Evil
A curse that that had put all of the evils of the world on one person; the person that became Angra Mainyu. Not a very useful one. The result is that even when losing the shell of a class, the normally directionless/alignmentless Prana of a Servant soul still has an alignment directed towards killing people. The alignment of Angra Mainyu itself could be said to be his Noble Phantasm. Normally not a problem at all, but given the way how the Heaven's Feel works.... Incarnation of it in the 4th and the 5th wars is as an enormous curse on all things in the world. Materializes as black mud initially (which will move on to the shape of a giant human in the latter stages) that dissolves and absorbs the flesh and soul of whoever gets in contact with it. If the person somehow doesn't get dissolved, then he'll go mad or have to deal with its after effects. A person with an extremely strong ego can avoid it. Heroic Spirits (or probably because the fact that they are heroes) will be affected by it as well in the form of receiving cursed flesh. Personally, if Angra Mainyu was actually born, I think it would have been like an End of Evangellion ending with an evil Ayanami Rei instead.


General

Enuma Elish - Ea - The Star of Creation that Split Heaven and Earth
The sword of rupture.

A weapon that slices through space itself. While Excalibur releases air, the sword draws it in by cycling its triblades and compresses it. The highly compressed wind pressure strata results in the creation of an artificial space-time rift that is thought to be the basis of all legends of lands of the dead, the origin of the memory of all organisms. In other words, Ea can be said to be a key to hell itself or rather absolute "truth" according to Gilgamesh. Something that is not found in the imagination or in the spoken memory of people, but in the genetically inherent and repressed knowledge of a place and time when organic existence had been impossible on this planet.

The activation name for the Noble Phantasm is Ea, however, the sword has no true name; Gilgamesh just calls it that. Enuma Elish is added to get the maximum output. Damage is STR x 20. At random, MGI will be added on to STR. Maximum damage is 4000, but vault items can and will increase this. Damage is so high that it is undefendable except through purge-resistant AC or nullification by striking the blast with an equally strong attack.

Randomly picked up a book on mythical weapons, flipped through one of the pages to find an entry about the sword of Ea. Apparently, there was a sword that Ea used to kill the god, Ullikummi, a stone giant, and a very strong one at that, able to fend off the attacks of some 70 gods. A magic sword that separated heaven and earth, which cleaved through the ankles of the giant (his body was allegedly indestructible). The giant collapsed and died.

Rank: EX
Type: Anti-world
Range: 1-99
Max AOE: 1000 units

Excalibur - Sword of Promised Victory
The sword of light.

A divine construction, forged by the planet. The pinnacle of holy swords. The stored wishes of mankind that had become crystallized and tempered within the planet. It had been guarded by the extensions of the planet (High Spirits/fairies) but had passed briefly into the hands of a King Arthur. Transforms the user's Prana into light, and augments the kinetic force by convergence and acceleration. A holy sword that allows for the use of Divine Spirit level thaumaturgy. Also, as its transforming the user's own Prana, the alignment of the sword will also change based on that, hence Black Excalibur's appearance. Length is some 90cm, width of 12cm.

Range: A++
Type: Anti-fortress
Range: 1-99
Max AOE: 1000 units

And since some people seem to be underestimating Excalibur (just like how people always seem to underestimate Fate character levels because of Deen's subpar effects)


Broad Bridge sequence - in-game display shows a light shockwave expanding beyond this screen meaning radius is larger than just that

After full expansion of the above.

Also, -> http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/humani...3/1363deb4.JPG
Picture from Realta Nua. Yellow light being Excalibur. Also note the location.

Hrunting - The Hound of the Red Plains
The sword used to kill the mother of Grendel. When used by Archer as a Broken Phantasm, it will continue to pursue the target, even if parried, repulsed, or avoided, as long as he continues to aim at the target. It's strong enough to pierce through 4 layers of Rho Aias and still continue closing in on the target.

Caladbolg II - The Fake Spiral Sword
A modification of the original Caladbolg, which was the sword of Fergus, hence the II. Used by Archer. It's energy output when used as a Broken Phantasm has a rank of approximately A. If used by one who has ties to Ulster, Cu Chulainn must lose to it once due to his Geis.

Kanshou and Bakuya - Gan Jiang and Mo Ye
Kanshou, the sword of Yang, and Bakuya, the sword of Yin.

The dual swords used preferably by Archer. Rank as Noble Phantasms is C-. "Married" swords among which such strong bonds exist that they will return to the hands of the owner, should there even be some trouble in which they're lost. (This can be used in combat also; if one blade is thrown, it will return back, as in fly back towards the user, due to the bond to the other blade. Image-wise, a boomerang like effect).

Sword quality is high for both, but they also have shamanistic and ritual aspects as enchanted weapons. They can be thrown and will return automatically to the user as long as the other one is still being held. They also have protection against thaumaturgy properties. Equipping them will result in raising of anti-thaumaturgy and anti-physical stats.

Added by Archer on the blades are words that may seem like anti-demonic charms. The true meaning to these words though is not ideology (nothing to do with the story behind these swords), but swordsmanship based on foundations.

Our souls, hard while firm
Our power, ripping the mountains
Our swords, splitting the water
Our names, reaching the villa
- Only one among us can stand under heaven.

(Based sort of on the simpler-to-understand version of the poem (the original isn't even really Chinese)- the last line to clear up any future misunderstandings is more or less saying the world isn't big enough for you and me, so I'm going to kill you; or something like that)

This is more or less a representation of a technique/strategy that Archer uses with Kanshou and Bakuya; consecutive tracing. Tracing 3 sets of Kanshou and Bakuya ahead of time and then projecting them when necessary.

Shirou's use of it differed from Archer's. The first line coincides with the first set that is thrown at the target, the second set is projected for close combat while the first set (each sword coming separately) returns and hits the opponent from behind; this is where the second and third line comes. The final set is used to finish off the enemy while his guard is broken; and hence where the last 2 line comes. A skill that was downloaded by Shirou from Kanshou and Bakuya in one of the possible fights against Saber. Basically, a methodical strategy at rendering the opponent defenseless.

Archer's normal use of it is meant to be through 2 series of X-shaped slashes overlayed over each other (and not thrown either) followed by a reinforced version of Kanshou and Bakuya in the final projection. This would be the winged version seen in the anime, Kanshou and Bakuya Overedge.

Low-rank in comparison to the other Noble Phantasms but dual-wield/experience/tracing time makes them very reliable. There had been creation ideology to them; they were made for the sake of being made; which is the point that Shirou liked about them the most when he first saw them - these are beautiful swords, not because of what they represent, but because of the craftsmanship itself.

[iamandragon]

I think it's best if we start using spoiler tags to catagorize items...just 1 post of us is now worth the length of 10 posts...

No offense Alaya, but I'd prefer you to post your own thoughts and reference them rather than just copy/paste things from Fuyuki...it's more interesting if we discuss than just read reference materials...

And speak of being accurate...I feel there're some points in this Fuyuki that are altered from the original Fuyuki...

Spoiler for Avalon:

It does not shatters...someone must have copied this bit from wikipedia...

Spoiler for God Hand:

Does not null rank B or below damage. God Hand is actually just layers of revival magic, according to Illya. That defense actually comes from his rank 'A' endurance. Note that the 'immunity against same attack twice' is, however, granted by God Hand after each revival...

Spoiler for Interesting note about Fate/Zero:

if Ea can only capture 1,000 units, then Alex's Reality Marble can summon no more than 999 soldiers...(the 1000th soldier being Alexander himself...)I guess...

[Fate lover]

I thought Berserker's immunity is nature-born, God hand is just his noble phantasm for revival, no more than that.

Wait, who is this Alexander? Are you referring to Alexander the Great? How is he related to the Fate/Zero novel? Is he also a heroic soul, why didn't I read it on the internet?

Avalon cannot be shattered? But I thought it is just a casing for the sword itself, no matter how powerful it is, there must be a weakness, right?

[Fate lover]

Is Saber the only Saber class Servant because so far I haven't read about any other Saber class servants in the Fate trilogy. The same applies for Lancer, Rider and Archer class servants.

[Alaya]

This is just for referencing, iamandragon. I think we should understand the material "thoroughly" first before we can discuss things in detail. Also, I post it for people who would barge in, ask the same questions about the same things. If I could, I would make a new thread about Nasuverse general knowledge that you should know.

For using spoiler tag, I would admit that I hate using it :P. I think the stuff that I post is not much a spoiler, rather a must know information regarding Fate/Stay Night. And I don't think it mean much for this thread too, because I really doubt that there would be people who would go and play the game in this forum so it would not be that big problems.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Fate lover

I thought Berserker's immunity is nature-born, God hand is just his noble phantasm for revival, no more than that.

Well it wasn't mentioned in the skill or details about the immunity bit, so we assume it is from the Noble Phantasm...if you think differently, please tell us what do you think where do you get the concept from.

Wait, who is this Alexander? Are you referring to Alexander the Great? How is he related to the Fate/Zero novel? Is he also a heroic soul, why didn't I read it on the internet?

If being in the novel is not not enough to be related to the novel, I'm sorry for mis-leading you then...XD
Read it. It's quite good, and takes you to a whole new level of excitement in terms of many things...

Avalon cannot be shattered? But I thought it is just a casing for the sword itself, no matter how powerful it is, there must be a weakness, right?

Well there never was a specific description of how Avalon works visually in the game, but one thing we're sure that it didn't shatter--that's just the anime...here's a quote from the game, translated into Engrish:

Spoiler for Avalon scene:

*After Gil launches his second Ea*
Saber's body jump forward.
A small space created by Excalibur, a place where she can take one more step...
The instant she reaches it...
Her Noble Phantasm appears...
(Emiya's theme music on)
(Some of Shirou's part skipped here)
'--You were my sheath--'
The arm reaching out still moves.
The weapon created without concentration or spellcasting is grabbed.
The world changes completely as the darkness is destroyed by a golden light and--and in Emiya Shirou's hand is the perfectly reproduced sheath of Saber.
(a lot of Saber ownage skipped--it's quite different from the anime here I have to mention as well)
All darkness is blown away the instant the sheath is grabbed.
The darkness surrounding Emiya Shirou, the darkness contaminating his body--everything is dispersed.
'Wh-at?'
There is no reason to be surprised.
The sheath of the holy sword protects its possessor.
The embodiment of the utopia she sought cannot lose to this dirty mud--!
(Shirou beats up Kotomine the same way he did in the anime)

Originally Posted by Fate lover

Is Saber the only Saber class Servant because so far I haven't read about any other Saber class servants in the Fate trilogy. The same applies for Lancer, Rider and Archer class servants.

What do you mean? Are you saying you want a president class servant as saber class servant?
Jokes aside. Saber class servants are always be erm...saber class servant, only difference is that different heros are summoned, and all saber class servants inherits a certain common triads(see my previous post).
So far there're 5 HG wars, and 4 different sabers are assumed to be summoned(the 4th and 5th being the same). For details on the servants in the 4th HG war, read Fate/Zero.

Originally Posted by Alaya

This is just for referencing, iamandragon. I think we should understand the material "thoroughly" first before we can discuss things in detail. Also, I post it for people who would barge in, ask the same questions about the same things. If I could, I would make a new thread about Nasuverse general knowledge that you should know.

We're just here to discuss, not to learn--why, even if I appear annoyed, I actually enjoy answering the similar questions of the newcomers over and over again. Even though they're asking on the same concepts, they pose different view angles which inspires me every time I try and think in their boots.

I really doubt that there would be people who would go and play the game in this forum so it would not be that big problems.

In fact, a ton of us here have played the game, especially after watching the anime, thanks to mirrormoon for translating it into English.
In fact, I'm here answering the questions of the people to make them interested in the game and novels
In fact, the game is much much better than the anime.

[Reincarnated_Avenger]

Alaya what do you mean the cause of many jokes when Rho Aias mixed with Gae Bolg?

Iamandragon I thought archer are blessed with enhanced eyesight(Being able to see something from far away is a useful abilities especially an archer class servant)? Or does that only apply to Emiya/archer? If so how does he do it?

How does Archer kill Berserker 5/6 times actually? Did he stab Heracles with all five swords or did he levitate 4 of them and fire it as he use the final sword to stabbed Berserker.

Can shirou make a new noble phantasm by imagination?

In anime Archer said something like " Such a rowdy summoning is the first time for me. Seems like ive been called up by a really amazing master.."Does that mean Archer has been summoned before but under different time line?

Last question can shirou alter the sword he made? Like changing the shape or increase the power or something?

[iamandragon]

Using spoiler tags for organization's sake, and also because there're much spoilers to begin with...

Spoiler for jokes when Rho Aias mixed with Gae Bolg?-UBW spoilers ahead:

That's why I'm opposed to copy pasta--basically, Gae Bolg==> Gay Bolg, and Lancer is the owner of Gay Bolg, and in the UBW route, he penetrated Archer's Ro Aias with it...all right, I'm going to start fascinating again...

Spoiler for eyesight of Archer-UBW spoiler ahead:

Only applies to 5th Archer--4th Archer didn't have it. And he did it during his life time by concentrating mana on his eyeballs, 'reinforcing' them to gain extended sight, and it turned into a natural ability when he became a heroic spirit. See the prologue of the game.

Spoiler for How does Archer kill Berserker 5/6 times actually?-no spoiler ahead:

Who knows? It wasn't even described in the game--one reason Archer can't defeat Berserker is because there are not enough useable A+ or higher ranked Noble Phantasms he know about-they're either too hard to produce(like Ea) or require a ridiculously large amount of mana that he can't use them.
Remember Berserker ignores anything below B ranked, and Archer's tracing reduces the rank of the traced weapon by one, so unless the original weapon is of rank A+, which drops to rank A- after tracing, it'll be as good as garbage against Berserker.

Spoiler for Can shirou make a new noble phantasm by imagination?-no spoiler ahead:

No one can make a new noble phantasm--Noble Phantasm is a Noble Phantasm because it has legends well known enough, so even if he made a nuke, it's still not a Noble Phantasm.

Spoiler for Archer being summoned-UBW spoilers ahead:

In anime Archer said something like " Such a rowdy summoning is the first time for me. Seems like ive been called up by a really amazing master.."Does that mean Archer has been summoned before but under different time line?

Yes, Archer has been summoned countless times before F/SN in different time and places as a counter guardian, and he was forced to do many things that went against his wishes during his life time, and thus his twisted personality, because after all the 'wrong doings' he believed turning into a heroic spirit is wrong and he wanted to kill his past self to prevent Shirou to step on the same path of him.

Spoiler for can Shirou alter the swords he made?-slight spoilers ahead:

Last question can shirou alter the sword he made? Like changing the shape or increase the power or something?

For what we've seen, he still wasn't able to change the shape of anything...and increasing the power is a question is too vague. By power do you mean the strength? The hardness? The mana capacity? There're too many possibilities to 'power up' a weapon.
For now I remember Shirou can strengthen the hardness of a weapon by 'reinforcing' it with mana, and he can also increase the stability of a weapon(so that it doesn't fly off his hands so easily) when clashing against a stronger opponent by fusing it with his arm.

Spoiler for LOL:

I was digging this topic from the beginning and guess what I found...

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

There are numerous people in each catagory of Servants.

For example...

*this is not an anime spoiler*

Alexander the Great was the Rider of the previous War.

Normally, the people representing each class of Servants are randomized for each Grail War. However, a Master can summon a specific person/Servant by possessing an object that is linked to that person.

Post #31 in this topic, that is when the anime haven't even ended...
I bet Gen Urobuchi has an account registered in AS forums...

[Reincarnated_Avenger]

A few more questions bout Unlimited Blade Work...

1)So Unlimited Blade Works is more like a portable workshop than a vault?

Note that (in regards to weapons destroyed or used within UBW) there is a continuous expenditure of Prana from RM formation to sustain it, however, the weapons already prepared at formation of bounded barrier do not cost Prana. However, (while expanded) remaking a destroyed weapon or making a new weapon that hadn't been present at expansion of UBW will cost an extremely large amount of Prana.

2) So by activating the unlimited Blade Work if Archer decided to trace his opponent NP that he has never seen before it will cause a lot of prana? And why does he need a lot of mana if he already has the stuff needed to make a new copy of the destroyed NP?


How long does it take for Gilgamesh to charge his EA?

What would happen to the holy grail if the last 2 servant killed each other at the same time?

A silly question :What happen if 2 different reality marbles are activated at the same time?

Spoiler for Fate Zero:

What is the max number of servants will be summoned if Alexander use his army of the king?And if Alexander fight against a servant who were once his comrade will his opponent surrender to him?

[Alaya]

Spoiler for Question 1:

Yes, it acts like the factory producing weapons that Archer/Shirou have seen before.

Spoiler for Question 2:

Not actually. It would be proper to say that he could not produce any weapons he has never seen before.