Clannad TV (general discussion)

[Ice Block]

Originally Posted by Farplaner

Spoiler for what I was referring to:

It has been a while since I played the game, but basically it went like this in the game:

There were a few times when Tomoyo went to wake Tomoya up in the morning, Tomoya would say "Tomoyo, let's break up" as a joke so he can go back to sleep. Tomoyo would be hurt and say "don't ever say that again"

But then Tomoya had to break up with Tomoyo, and he did it basically the same way. Tomoyo would go into denial mode for a bit saying "this is a joke... isn't it? Please say it's a joke!"

It basically adds to the sadness...

Aw... You just made me remember something I didn't want to remember.

Originally Posted by Vegard Aune

Spoiler for Not spoiling anything because I haven't played the game, I just wanted to say...:

Somehow, the way you put it somehow makes it seem funny, even though your point seems to be "You have to first get the horrible tragedy-ending before you can see the happy one". Anyway, I hope that KyoAni won't go with the "Extreme Bad Ending" then, as I generally prefer happy endings. (Though it's not like having a sad ending would ruin the show for me either. Death Note had a pretty sad ending, yet I still think it's an excellent show.)

Spoiler for response:

The Extreme Bad Ending may be an ending (or part of) script-wise, but it actually is at the middle of the story plot-wise. So don't worry about KyoAni animating this Extreme Bad Ending (it's pretty much guaranteed, thanks to the short trailer we were shown), since it is needed in order to deliver the whole story, and more importantly the THEME, of Clannad.

Plus, the Extreme Bad Ending also serves to make the nice and happy TRUE END much, much, much more enjoyable -- also making the wait for Clannad AS worthwhile.

@eggplant:
Thanks much for the sypnosis. So, it's basically the second half of Tomoyo's route from the Clannad VN. Didn't expect them to fit that much in 25 mins though, so I'm quite surprised they managed to pull it off. Now I'm eagerly looking forward to its release in July.

Oh yeah, did they show

Spoiler for Sunohara:

with his original hair color

during/after the timeskip?

Also, this special makes me happy and sad at the same time. Happy, coz KyoAni gave Tomoyo some time in the spotlight after shafting her with her own episode. Sad, coz they apparently don't plan on doing the same to Kyou, seeing as she was shafted even more (in terms of focus, not screentime -- only 25% of her route is shown. In comparison, Fuko has 99.99%, Kotomi 95%, Nagisa 90%, and Tomoyo 50%.), with Ep17's shed scene (which isn't even part of her route) as our only compensation. Come on KyoAni, show off how well you can do angsty romance/drama by animating Kyou's full route.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Ice Block

Also, this special makes me happy and sad at the same time. Happy, coz KyoAni gave Tomoyo some time in the spotlight after shafting her with her own episode. Sad, coz they apparently don't plan on doing the same to Kyou, seeing as she was shafted even more (in terms of focus, not screentime -- only 25% of her route is shown. In comparison, Fuko has 99.99%, Kotomi 95%, Nagisa 90%, and Tomoyo 50%.), with Ep17's shed scene (which isn't even part of her route) as our only compensation. Come on KyoAni, show off how well you can do angsty romance/drama by animating Kyou's full route.

But I don't want the anime to make me hate Kyou like the game did...

Although seeing Not Spineless Ryou would be adequate compensation...

[Leo_Otaku]

Was anything mentioned about the length of the 2nd season or if anything about side character focus? I wouldn't expect the 2nd part to be ansered but any indication about length.

[eggplant]

Originally Posted by Ice Block

Oh yeah, did they show

Spoiler for Sunohara:

with his original hair color

during/after the timeskip?

I didn't pay much attention to Sunohara, thereby not noticing anything in particular, althought a poster on 2ch., who also attended the event, pointed it out.

Originally Posted by Leo_Otaku

Was anything mentioned about the length of the 2nd season or if anything about side character focus? I wouldn't expect the 2nd part to be ansered but any indication about length.

Nothing was mentioned about the second season, save that it's currently in its production stage. Even if the announcement for the premiere date is made (probably in August), I don't think we'll know of the episode count right away.

On another note, I'll attach a picture of the miniature calendar which was handed out to everyone in attendance.

Take a look at the calendar. Yes, the Japanese school calendar and many corporate fiscal calendars start in April, but it is listed up to next March, if it has any connotation at all.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by eggplant

Take a look at the calendar. Yes, the Japanese school calendar and many corporate fiscal calendars start in April, but it is listed up to next March, if it has any connotation at all.

Well, that probably doesn't have a big connotation, as every school calendar I've collected has been April to March. That being said, it's virtually assured that the show will air sometime in that timeframe regardless.

[HashiriyaR32]

Remember the fact that Sunohara loves the Tenjou Tenge OP "Bomb A Head". I'm sorry if I'm slow, but Tenjou Tenge only started airing on April 1st, 2004, only weeks before the CLANNAD VN first came out (April 28, 2004). How the hell did they add that bit in at the very last minute?

[velvet]

Originally Posted by Skane

Spoiler for implied spoilers for the Clannad Game:

The "Happy Ending" only occurs after the player goes through the "Extreme Bad-Ending". I mean seriously... KEY didn't just shoot the dog here (where dog = player), they raped the dog, kicked it while it's down and danced around its horrified body before going, "Haha! Gotcha!"

It's like Key revels in making their consumers scream in anguish as they beat on their chests and cry out to the Heavens in agony over the epic tragedy of it all. My mood significantly gets depressed just from thinking of Planetarian's ending. I am simultaneously eager to watch an animated adaptation of it, and terrified of the resulting depression I would suffer from watching it.

I sometimes like to think that their scriptwriters visit Mental Hospitals to interview patients and have them tell them the most f***ed-up stories of their lives.

Cheers.

And I'm loving it. Does this mean I'm masochist?
AIR TV kept me in bed with fever for almost a week, and I still rewatch it.

Seriously, we got depressed all the time but we're still watching it, played it, etc etc, so yeah...

[SidVicious]

Episode 24 trailer: http://www.tbs.co.jp/clannad/06speci...ges/tomoyo.asx

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by SidVicious

Episode 24 trailer: http://www.tbs.co.jp/clannad/06speci...ges/tomoyo.asx

Hearing Jun Fukuyama in any role other than Lulu is odd nowadays.

[GyroidFanatic]

Originally Posted by eggplant

That's nice when you compare it to the picture of her sitting there alone.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by GyroidFanatic

That's nice when you compare it to the picture of her sitting there alone.

Hey, I just realized that. Cute.

[Okazaki11]

Trailer YT v.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxtg7Uqoks

[Darkoff]

i just found one translated,

http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-370...Subtitles.html

sorry about the long text

[MercFH]

I have a general question. while I loved Clannad a friend of mine is looking for new anime to watch and she hasn't seen much of the new stuff. she loved Fantasy/Romances (like AMG, Rumbling hearts and such) and stuff that makes u BAWWWW
but she hates fan-service pretty much to every extent.....now I dont remember their being much fan-service in clannad? (dunno about ep 23 i havent seen it yet? or the movie?) but would clannad be a good recommendation for her? I dont recall their being much fan-service in it......do yall?

thx!

[Meatrose]

Originally Posted by MercFH

I have a general question. while I loved Clannad a friend of mine is looking for new anime to watch and she hasn't seen much of the new stuff. she loved Fantasy/Romances (like AMG, Rumbling hearts and such) and stuff that makes u BAWWWW
but she hates fan-service pretty much to every extent.....now I dont remember their being much fan-service in clannad? (dunno about ep 23 i havent seen it yet? or the movie?) but would clannad be a good recommendation for her? I dont recall their being much fan-service in it......do yall?

thx!

Sure, Clannad would probably be appreciated. I would recommend her not to watch the movie though since it dealt with the AS in about 15 - 20 minutes. Have her watch the TV series, then wait for Kyoto Animation's Clannad ~After Story~

Kyoto Animation's Clannad is an unfinished project though, and the After Story is really the entire point of the story. If I were you I'd get her to watch Air and Kanon as well since they're both, in my opinion, a lot stronger than what we've seen of Clannad so far, especially Air.

[MercFH]

Do u think the fan-service would put her off (she really hates that stuff) however I didnt remember much in clannad nor the movie (but it's been awhile?)

[Proto]

I can only remember the scene with Kyou in the locker room, and that scene is placed towards the end, so hopefully by then she will be engaged enough in the story to just overlook it

[MercFH]

ya even that scene compared to most anime fan-service is minimal anyways ahhaa

[Mirrinus]

There is pretty much no fanservice at all in episode 23 either, if you're worried about that.

[Vegard Aune]

Originally Posted by Proto

I can only remember the scene with Kyou in the locker room, and that scene is placed towards the end, so hopefully by then she will be engaged enough in the story to just overlook it

And that scene wasn't THAT bad anyway... PS: I saw the game-version of that scene on Youtube... They totally should have followed the game more closely in that one, it would make it even more hilarious than it already was.

Spoiler for Because...:

In the game, Tomoya had to take off his PANTS to break the curse. OF COURSE she'd misunderstand that.