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Old 2012-06-23, 07:29   Link #2021
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The anime did less explanation so time for some explanation.
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Old 2012-06-23, 07:33   Link #2022
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So will we have new OP and ED next week or week later?
I don't think so. Maybe by ep 13 since I think that's the start of the second half.
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Old 2012-06-23, 10:07   Link #2023
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There's no need to comment upon Yellow Radios' tactics to have lured in two kings with one shot, since it's already been covered in countless previous posts.

However, the guy sounded pathetic to me freaking out when Black Lotus regained her senses and losing the tide of the battle in one swoop. He could have acted more composed to find another opening on Black Lotus's psyche to deal more psychological damage than reenacting the so tired charade about "you must feel guilty for doing that to our friend" cliché.

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Old 2012-06-23, 11:10   Link #2024
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This episode kinda makes Scarlet Rain pathetic as a King. Her first appearance has her demolished entire building and making a wasteland out of its neighbourhood. But in this episode, her attacks didn't do much damage other than killing random mooks, and the way she was almost 'disassembled' by these mooks were rather disappointing. I would expect Scarlet Rain to have something to cover up her weakness, but it seems she can be easily defeated by zerg rush tactics, or some highly skilled character who can dodge her fires, and once close in, end of line for her.

Black Lotus is absolutely badass. I like that Haru's misunderstand of sort kinda brought her back from her heroic BSOD
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:14   Link #2025
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Well, one thing you forget, is that the mooks is prepared to face Scarlet Rain, which mean, they already has strategy for beating her...

Scarlet Rain is doing fine until that jammer is on...
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:14   Link #2026
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Scarlet Rain is the youngest of the King's, so it stands to reasons he isn't one of the strongest.

That said, I didn't think she was pathetic at all, she slew droves of Burst Linkers in single volleys with incredible ease, but the Yellow King brought that group specifically to hunt her down, hence the jamming and the melee/ranged groups. If it wasn't for the jamming, it is quite likely she would would have killed them all.

Theoretically, any of the King's would fall under such tactics, being outnumbered is a big disadvantage.
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:23   Link #2027
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Being a single colour King makes you the best at something but in return you get a huge weakness. Even the Yellow King, he has great illusions but once he saw Black Lotus heading for him he looked like he was about to shit himself. And Black Lotus too, she probably has great weakness.

It's all about finding it.
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:31   Link #2028
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Being a single colour King makes you the best at something but in return you get a huge weakness. Even the Yellow King, he has great illusions but once he saw Black Lotus heading for him he looked like he was about to shit himself. And Black Lotus too, she probably has great weakness.

It's all about finding it.
I wouldn't say you get a huge weakness in return, but their strengths are clearly defined.

When it came down to it, even the Yellow Radio (favoring indirect attacks) threw down pretty damn well with Black Lotus, who is specialized at offense.

Scarlet Rain also isn't a King of Pure Color, so her strength/weaknesses aren't quite as clearly defined as Red Rider's would have been.

From what I have heard, the chromatic colors are characterized by their specialties (range/melee/indirect), while the metallic colors are defined by their defense/weaknesses (immunity/vulnerability).
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:33   Link #2029
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This episode kinda makes Scarlet Rain pathetic as a King. Her first appearance has her demolished entire building and making a wasteland out of its neighbourhood. But in this episode, her attacks didn't do much damage other than killing random mooks, and the way she was almost 'disassembled' by these mooks were rather disappointing. I would expect Scarlet Rain to have something to cover up her weakness, but it seems she can be easily defeated by zerg rush tactics, or some highly skilled character who can dodge her fires, and once close in, end of line for her.

Black Lotus is absolutely badass. I like that Haru's misunderstand of sort kinda brought her back from her heroic BSOD
It is like any MMO that you played, everybody has a weakness including bosses characters. Scarlet Rain in turn in Raw Power, she is up there with Blue Knight but when she has to deal with her weakness she isn't going to do so well. Same thing with Yellow Radio, he is good with illusions but going head to head isn't his strongest point.
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:47   Link #2030
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It just sorta feel weird to see a simple Zerg rush tactic is capable of bringing Scarlet Rain down. After all, episode 9 established that Scarlet Rain does have close combat defence when Haru tried to exploit her weakness.

Any idea how the King vs King battle will turn out? For example, if it's Blue Knight vs Scarlet Rain, extreme melee vs extreme long range, wouldn't Blue Knight be in total disadvantage?

Any fight against the Green king will be weird though. He probably will just stand still till his opponent gives up?
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Old 2012-06-23, 11:52   Link #2031
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Haru and his team got ambushed.
That Yellow Radio guy sure was pretty annoying.
The flashback part was really interesting.
What Black Lotus did was really cruel, no wonder she is still bothered by it.
Yellow vs Red team.
Things were looking really bad for Red team...
Good thing Black Lotus got to her senses and saved the day.
Really really nice action this time.
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Old 2012-06-23, 12:24   Link #2032
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This episode is amazing thanks to the Nozomu Abe (who also did the Hailstorm Domination back episode 8, and probably Ash's wall climbing act back episode 2).

I would post this in a sakuga threads instead but they're ... pretty much dead. I hope the mods won't ding me too hard on this because spoilers to other series are pretty much forbidden (I'm actually not entirely sure the rules regarding written spoilers vs. linking spoilers), but I think he's a person definitely worth mentioning and knowing if you don't already; besides, sakuga videos are always fun to watch too so ...

Spoiler for Various spoilers for other series (especially Madoka and Railgun):

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Old 2012-06-23, 15:14   Link #2033
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Oh one more thing, I understand that in a Lvl 9 vs Lvl 9 fight, it's winner takes all. But technically Chrome Disaster is a lvl 6 (I think?) so even if it defeated the Yellow King it wouldn't result in his immediate death right?
That is what we are lead to believe. However, the only concern is the mention that Chrome Disaster kills other players to zero points and Brain Burst uninstall. How is that possible from one kill? Well, tsunade666 explained with background information that [mod edit: see the spoiler tag above in his post if you want to know, as this hasn't been explained in the anime yet].

I don't think he is dead. He will probably run like a yellow chicken when he revives.

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Old 2012-06-23, 17:48   Link #2034
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Damn, best episode yet.

Everyone got to be boss in this episode. Too bad Chrome Disaster interrupted the fight between BL & YR.

I like Scarlett Rain now, before I was indifferent towards her.

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Old 2012-06-23, 18:07   Link #2035
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What happened to the real-life person whose avatar turned into Chrome Disaster? Was it explained?
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Old 2012-06-23, 18:16   Link #2036
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Spoiler for Answers to above questions based on the novels:
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Old 2012-06-23, 18:20   Link #2037
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Old 2012-06-23, 18:36   Link #2038
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I want to remind novel readers that, if you are going to answer questions about what happened in the anime using novel knowledge, you must use spoiler tags. Please see the Spoiler Policy and specifically this point:

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Technically speaking, I'm not sure even if the spoilered posts above should be allowed to exist in this thread due to the way it's worded, as I'm sure these answers will be shown next week.
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Old 2012-06-23, 20:12   Link #2039
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I want to remind novel readers that, if you are going to answer questions about what happened in the anime using novel knowledge, you must use spoiler tags. Please see the Spoiler Policy and specifically this point:



Technically speaking, I'm not sure even if the spoilered posts above should be allowed to exist in this thread due to the way it's worded, as I'm sure these answers will be shown next week.
80% of what I posted was already stated, or at least heavily implied in the Anime.
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Old 2012-06-23, 22:58   Link #2040
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This latest episode was really great. It was awesome to get a wall-to-wall flashy action-fest after a few episodes that built up really nicely to it.

And I felt that all the named characters were handled well in this, and given good chances to look cool, effective, powerful, and/or threatening. It also helped that the cannon fodder army of the day was actually somewhat competent!

The best moments of the episode were definitely saved for Silver Crow and Black Lotus, though, and they certainly delivered! Very intense scenes that were a joy to watch.
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