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Even though JKR said she regrets it a litte... she didn't change anything! So why do they expect that Kishi now will change it the way they want? Also... those rumors of him redrawing the last two chapter... it would be funny if he did: Because he wants to expand the SasuSaku scene and give Bolt and Himawari the Byakugan! xD Also for Gaara... anime staff gave him his own filler pet Matsuri, who I must admit, started to grow on me. So I wouldn't mind if Kishi elevates her to canon as a potential wife in part 3.
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2015-01-02, 06:13
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Sarada : (Kyaaaaaaaa! Really ? Papa can have such sweet appeal -SHANAROO ?!It is just like it come out from a fairy tale , oh no , i can't have such childish delusion , what to do what to do ??? ) What ? Naruto : SASUKE ?! |
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2015-01-02, 07:45
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And in addition, everytime Harry would reflect on the moments they've had, they're only told never shown. Plus every instance of his attraction to Ginny seemed to be strictly physical. Not to mention Ginny's love for Harry was strictly due to him being famous. Like it started with a childhood crush that seemingly faded away, only for Book 6 to reveal she never got over it. If there was anyone I wanted to ship Harry with, it was Luna. At least they had a connection and moments together plus Luna saw him as Harry and not the Boy Who Lived. Not to mention they were both outcasts, while Ginny was Ms. Popular yet was supposed to come off as an underdog. This is why comparing Harry/Ginny to NaruHina ticks me off. Cause in the case of NaruHina, at least they have a connection that isn't strictly physical and that it's actually shown in what little interaction they have. Add in that Hinata saw the goodness in Naruto when he was still a loser, and that they actually have each others' backs. Okay enough about Harry Potter, anyways on to Hinata, ah yes not only is she the 1% of girls that won't hit you for the slightest goof-ups but she also possesses several traits a guy would ever want in a girl: kind, gentle, caring, smart, strong-willed, determined, etc. And on top of that, she blossomed from an adorable cutie to a beautiful and gorgeous woman. She's practically the whole package. You can't ask for anyone better. Add that to her development from a shy meek girl to a strong, brave, courageous woman then it's easy to see why she's become the #1 Female Character in the series as well as having the label of "Would have been a better heroine than Sakura". As for the pairings: Well I've seen most people (usually the NaruSaku fans) ship Hinata with either Lee or Kiba since they're similar to Naruto. On context, it's kinda okay considering Hinata likes Naruto for who he is so by nature it should easy for others to just ship her with Naruto-lites, but there is a problem. The reason these ships on the other hand make no sense is that even if these guys are like Naruto, they lack the emotional impact Naruto has given her. It's not just that Hinata loves him for who he is, it's the impact Naruto has to her life. Naruto was the reason her outlook in life and herself changed for the better, it wasn't just his personality, it was the fact that he too had a harsh life but always stood proud and tall. Sure Lee and to an extent Kiba are similar in that regard, but they were never looked down on by the majority of the villagers, nor was the deck ever stacked against them. And like you said, another difference between Naruto and Kiba is how they treat Hinata. While Kiba somewhat babies her and tries convincing her not to tackle things out of her reach, Naruto encourages her because he has confidence in her. And in a relationship, isn't being equal important? Going back to the Harry/Ginny comparison, I've seen that Harry constantly tries to protect Ginny by telling her to stay back or not having faith in her. As for NaruHina, sure Naruto is protective of her but come a serious battle, he wouldn't tell Hinata to back away cause it's too dangerous, instead he's thrilled to have her by his side cause he knows that he can count on her. SasuHina? Hell no! Like I want Sasuke to be with the one girl that never even noticed him. Shino? Well they're close I'll give it that, not to mention Hinata would have been fine with the whole bug thing. But romantically? No. I see Kiba and Shino more as her older surrogate brothers (and her sidekicks lol). Gaara might have worked, considering he's similar to Naruto in terms of their past. Again the only problem would be if Gaara has the same attitude Naruto has on never giving up or not, which is what Hinata noticed in the first place. Neji, well to be honest NejiHina was always a crack ship for me cause I always got this feeling that Neji has some crush on Hinata (although not to the levels that Springtime of Youth portray). But in all seriousness, if NaruHina couldn't happen, I'd at least pair Hinata with someone she already cares about (taboo reasons aside). Alas his death removed that worry. I once heard that at one point in Japan, NejiHina was actually more popular than NaruHina. I do agree though that Sai and Choji make no sense. Also considering Choji's lack of popularity in the fandom, it would have been a HUGE waste if Hinata, the #1 female character and perfect bachelorette among the Konoha 11 was paired with him. Seriously due to Hinata's popularity and her already-established bond with the main character, Naruto was really the only one worthy of her XD. |
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2015-01-02, 09:08
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There are rumors about Kishimoto latest interview .
Basically , Kishi love the movie and how Hinata became the main heroine plus she and Sakura is best friend . However , seems he doesn't like the idea of Bolt the movie . Kishi want to draw a short spar between Sakura and Hinata , if he can get a permission for that . Confirmed , NaruHina will have the 3rd child that own Byakugan , and his name will be Shinakichu , such troll Walt Disney wants to make their owns version of Naruto the last which may come out in 2016 , Kishi thinks the script is a bit dark . As for angry NS fans , Kishi said there are ton of Tsundere heroine manga out there and thank them for reading his work .
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2015-01-02, 09:40
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Meh I still think Part 3 will have one of the current Uzumaki's developing the Byakugan, like who says the rules of the Byakugan NEEDS to have the white eyes? Maybe they develop their own form of it and can activate it despite their current eye colour and don't forget Bolt in the movie's eyes were redid from being cerulean blue in the manga to having a hint of white in them maybe a design choice for the movie perhaps, but Himawari's eyes were still very blue yet Bolt's was altered so maybe this is a sign. And whose to say that their eyes won't get whiter in Part 3 as they get older, I mean there's so much potential to give them the Byakugan I think it be a COMPLETE waste to say they don't have it over an art mistake Oh yeah forgot about her lol I sometimes mistake Matsuri for an OC until I found out that no she was a character from the anime, and even then I sorta forget about her lol Quote:
Anywho the purpose of the game was not to find anything canonical within the series to make the pairing work because there obviously WAS none, Hinata for instance LOVED Naruto from day 1, loved him during the time skip, loved him when he came back, loved him to the point of personal sacrifice, probably tore her OWN heart out having to leave him to try and save Hanabi and then married him, all because Naruto NEVER gave her reason to abandon those feelings, so yeha there IS no room for anyone else...lol So yeah while most of these pairings lack the whole impact of Naruto's never give up despite failing attitude which inspired her, you're right for the most part I had to pretend Hinata felt sorry for some of these pairings and "developed" a crush like with Sasuke, the guy in the end DID lose his ENTIRE home in a night, or Sai she might have felt sorry for his training which meant he had to be void of what makes us feel alive, our emotions...some were INCREDIBLY hard to do...like...Cho...oh good gawd *pours more bleach over himself* but I told myself given Hinata's nature there could have BEEN potential, not that it makes sense or that it would happen, potential...cause at the end of the day, Ino and Sakura initially develop attraction based on looks and then maybe some personality traits they find interesting (which admittedly is how ALOT of people date), which is a huge factor which makes them say no I would NEVER date this guy even if he was the last man on earth...while Hinata looked for whats on the inside first before she moves on with physical attraction, which is a thing its RARE but there are girls who do that...(I eye my one friend who is married lol) so SasuHina, yeah its gross but I can't deny if the story went a different direction given the way Hinata is and they way Sasuke is, I can't deny that she couldn't fall for him in her own way but the whole good girl falls for bad boy is SOOOOO overdone I am super glad they chose the good girl falls in love with the good man...cause that is what Naruto needed Ironic you say Sai won't work cause I actually saw potential in the reasons I described maybe she would have felt really bad cause of his lack of human emotion and like I said I can see him drawing a painting of her and then giving her a rude nickname...I'll settle for Big Rack lol Yeah Shino I REALLY had a tough time talking about given how little Shino you know shows about his character...but I couldn't deny she'd feel sorry for his lonly existence too...so I wrote them as a maybe...seriously if I had this much difficulty imagine if I DID do Ten Ten lol Gaara I saw ultimately working, after fighting Naruto he adopted his view on life, remember his speech to the Shinobi alliance? He too believed in the strength of fighting for your friends, he showed it when he sacrificed victory against Deidara to save his home (which ultimately lead to his capture) and he worked hard (though he didn't need that long) to become Kazekage, so yes I could very well seeing it working for Hianta should she decide to pursue Gaara, in fact I read a fanfiction once (since the series wasn't over lol) the threat of Gaara potentially taking Hinata was what lead Naruto to quickly realize his love and admit to her before he lost her (since he realized that they WERE the same lol) in the end Gaara had no interest in her, he jsut wanted to be her friend and it was just a false rumour spread by Sakura to get Naruto to DO something with Hinata lol Yeah I DID hear that too about NeijHina being more popular then NaruHina at one point but from what my understanding is, that was because at the time those fans thought NaruSaku was to be the ending, and neither Naruto NOR Hinata made ANY attempts to like each other...but the more NaruHina hints that came such as Pein's confession, the failed confession, Hianta and Naruto's holding hands, even the NeijHina couldn't deny there wasn't a NAruHina shaping up in the future and while they may not have abandoned NeijHina, they accepted that it WASN'T going ot EVER happen and willingly accepted the NaruHina ending, course the NaruSaku try to paint a picture that the Japanese NeijHina were JUST like them and became SUPER bitter for losing Neiji to make NaruHina happen while the reality is they KNEW full well NaruHina was to be the ending and if there were ANY hard feelings it was losing Neiji but it certainly wasn't because it ruined their NeijHina ending because ALOT of them accepted it wasn't happening As for the case of Kiba and Naruto protecting Hinata, remember its a guy thing even if we see the girl as strong, men don't want to think the girl needs to be the one saving them while Kiba did so to ensure she wouldn't get hurt at first and Naruto encouraged her to seek her potential and win impossible odds, in the end even Naruto's not immune to wanting to protect the girl, such as when Hinata stepped up to fight Pein, Naruto's IMMEDIATE reaction was please run! You don't stand a chance...then he later tells Hinata it would look so uncool if Hinata had to keep saving him, neveraless the fact Hinata is willing to fight so hard for him and that's why their relationship works so well as you said, they're not just husband and wife...they're partners! Equals in every way Well anyway I had alot of fun writing this, I wonder what I'll think of writing next? Lol Quote:
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2015-01-02, 10:57
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2015-01-02, 12:05
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As for the CPR scene, yes I'm on board with them giving it to her, JUST to see the looks on NaruSaku's faces. But at the same time, I don't because it will make the already rabid NH/Hinata haters even more vocal. God it's like Hinata's mere presence upsets them. It's hilarious XD Here's another thing worth discussing: I've been seeing a lot of fanart/fan-fiction of either Last Naruto going back to the past to the time of Part I/Part II Hinata or Part I/II Hinata being sent to the future and the older Naruto would usually spend some time with her as a way to make up for not noticing her before. But I'm now wondering is what would happen is the opposite happened? Like Last Hinata went back to the time of Part I/II Naruto or Part I/II Naruto being sent to the future. How do you think an interaction between them would go? Like what would Hinata think of younger Naruto and what would Part I/II Naruto think of the older, more confident and grown up Hinata? |
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2015-01-02, 12:14
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I find it hard to take most of them seriously especially when they try to ship pairings like SasuHina (not developed) and SasuKarin (abusive) all while adamantly claiming NaruHina has no development and SasuSaku is abusive. It would definitely be awesome to see Hinata perform the CPR scene though.
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2015-01-02, 13:00
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and yay another supporter of Hinata give CPR scene! And funny you mention Last Hinata going back in time...I actually yes came up with a scenario for that...seriously ask me anything and I might have a scenario for it lol anyway I had in fact a game in mind something along the lines of Koei's Warrior series (yes I am a HUGE Dynasty or ANYTHING Warriors by Koei, they also made Gundam and Pirate (One Piece) warriors, great for a mindless hack and slash!) basically I had this idea of this S Rank Nin who was unsatisfied with the peaceful world Naruto brought but knows he can't beat Naruto the way he is now, enacts a forbidden Jutsu to time travel to a point he CAN kill Naruto he was planning to go back to when he was born but, Naruto and Hinata arrive and interrupt causing the time portals to become unstable, and Hinata's sucked in and she winds up in the just AFTER Pein Saga arc and runs into that Naruto, he was contemplating what his Hinata meant when she told him she loved him and concludes she must have meant in a sisterly way (thus bringing the initial problem of the movie full circle) he sees a flash of light and goes to it to find the unconscious Hinata, and wonders why she looks so different...but he can't take his eyes off her for some reason she looks even more beautiful then usual he thinks, she wakes up and immediately hugs Naruto (mistaking him for her's) glad he's alright and now Pein arc Naruto can notice this Hinata has...grown lol Last Hinata apologizes, before she can elaborate enemies come and she decides to not hide the truth, that someone from the future is trying to assassinate him in the past Meanwhile Last Naruto runs into Pein arc Hinata and kinda the same deal, they help each other and meet up with Last Hinata and Pein Naruto, its explained that unless they stop the S Rank Nin creating the time portals there are going to be ALOT more attempts on Naruto's life so they seek to find where the S Rank Nin is hiding who by now has recruited many of the series villains including the Akatsuki, The final arc Sasuke, and Toneri jsut to name a few lol, so naturally the Two Narutos and Hiantas form their own team with friends of theirs from different times, lol I also came up with a scene Toneri manages to abduct Last Hinata, and Pein Naruto notices his future self getting REALLY angered and angst about it, after they rescue her, he demands his future self come clean about what does he mean by "My Hinata" Last Naruto: one sec...Hinata come here... *the two are discussing something Pein Hinata: what do you think they're talking about...? Pein Naruto: who knows? My future self is weird... Last Naruto: okay we decided to come clean a bit...you see Naruto...um younger me, in the future...you and Hinata are going to get married... Last Hinata: its true *shows her ring Pein Naruto: *not catching on at first* oh is THAT all I thought we were going to start dating considering how serious you were acting and wait...WHAT?! *both past Hinata and Naruto are standing there white eyed and shocked* Pein Naruto and Pein Hianta then become TOTALLY awkward with each other and can't seem to even talk to each other, so Last Naruto decides to let the future selves talk to the past self. Last Naruto instructing his past self to not view his feelings for Hinata as "destiny" (since both NArutos REFUSE to beleive in predetermined fate) that Naruto will realize he always loved Hinata, its jsut going to take him some time to realize that, and when past Naruto proposes to his Hinata its going to be because HE wants to. Meanwhile Pein Hinata tells her future self she is happy that she will one day achieve her dream but expresses doubts in herself if she could EVER become as strong as Last Hianta (sorta viewing her like a big sis by now), Last Hanta tells her past self to never give up on Naruto, and she knows Hianta will grow into a stronger lady...afterall she's proof of that isn't she? Lol lol anyway generic plot, they save the day, defeat the villain and return everyone back to their appropriate times, all the while erasing their memories of it ever happening (thus setting Past Naruto and Hinata back to square one) lol Quote:
and yayy someone else on board with the Hinata CPR...I mean I won't be TOO upset if they stick to canon, but if they alter this one minor scene can you IMAGINE how huge the implications will be? The NaruSaku won't be able to use it as a solid evidence to support their campaign, since they can't say its "not filler"since its a scene that would have taken place IN the manga and NOW the anime (if it happens) and I personally think it will work, it will help add Hianta's status as Naruto's one true love plus a litle payback to the NaruSaku for all the trouble they caused to Kishimoto and his assistants! Yes the shockwave it will cause CAN'T be ignored!
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2015-01-02, 13:25
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Hinata just showed once again why she shouldn't be underestimated lol. Like in the actual manga, even the enemies didn't see her coming. I remember the scene with her and Naruto after Neji's death and Obito and I think Madara were even giving WTF looks at her presence. As for the hate on NH, it's not like they can even avoid it. With it being advertised to heck for as long as the series runs, they'll just have to accept it. I'm not saying stop pairing their non-canon ships but do so in a civilized manner. Though I admit, every single time I see any NH official stuff, I love it for the fact that it's NaruHina AND that it's an eyesore to them XD. Yeah if Last Hinata ever hugged Part I/II Naruto tight and his face is on her chest, man he's gonna be red all over. I mean sure he's cluelesss in the concept of love, but he is still a bit of a perv. He'll be in heaven right there lol. Yes if they do change it, more power to NaruHina but if not ah well. I mean Kishi did say he gave NaruSaku those moments as a red herring, even if smarter readers knew that their dynamic would only pertain to being close friends. With the Last already out and NaruHina being all over the place, there's no more need for the red herrings. However if they do change it to Hinata, it'll only give the haters more ammunition to their rants. I remember the complaints about her confession during the Pain arc being expanded to a full episode complete with flashbacks (including a new one that actually made its way to canon) and that they extended the fight. Man those were good times XD. Yes the fact that Kishimoto's assistants tweeted in English and Kishimoto's latest interviews have shown that they're irritated as well, only they show it in a professional manner. I'm willing to bet they have more plans to shoot it down further. Maybe even the Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 can help out with that plus give NaruHina even more goodies to enjoy, you know they will lol. |
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2015-01-02, 14:10
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lol saw a post on tumblr that sums up anti views on Hinata throughout the movie
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2015-01-02, 14:23
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^ lol quite amusing...I'm surprised they didn't try to rationalize Sakura's advice to Hinata as Hinata is going to steal Naruto later in this movie to make her feel bad or something lol
or why stop there? Why not have the anti's rationalize that Hinata TELEPATHICALLY made Naruto not put Sakura's name on that End of the World Question and Sakura NOT put Naruto's name as HER answer while SHE could put Naruto down and made herself look good because she knew that SOMETIME in the future, Naruto was going to somehow view the past and see Hinata being the ONLY one putting NAruto's name because of her "nefarious" plan that she started ALL those years ago...yes its SO seamless and makes PERFECT sense!
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^ I TOTALLY wish I didn't read that lol...and no no no! My headcanon states they'll pass on after leaving Great Grandchildren, TOGETHER in their sleep...they spent so long so close and yet apart, its not fair for one to leave the other, waiting for their time! Not fairs I tell ya!
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2015-01-02, 15:42
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Also keep in mind with good living, statistically women naturally outlive men in most cases lol
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