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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 25 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 791 | 63.74% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 163 | 13.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 95 | 7.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 67 | 5.40% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 17 | 1.37% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 18 | 1.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 7 | 0.56% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 7 | 0.56% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 4 | 0.32% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 72 | 5.80% | |
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2008-09-28, 12:40 | Link #1003 |
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Can any of you actually think? Lelouch is still alive. Someone posted in one of the previous pages about how and all the clues too that were in the episodes pointing out that Lelouch is an immortal now too with C.C.
And also the thing about Xingke being alive or not, open your eyes and watch the episode. |
2008-09-28, 12:40 | Link #1004 |
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The directing of the episode was great... Lelouch's "dying" scene was a tear-jerker in a way, because at that point, everyone that knew Lelouch realized his plan (I'm surprised they can go on living happily when they were such idiots ) The scene where Lelouch commands the world to obey him was exciting, except it didn't work. So no real point there. Lelouch did give C.C. her smile at the end by realizing that the Geass she had given wasn't a curse... which is what they discussed in Turn 24 and when C.C. made the comment about caring about winning or losing.. he essentially made her human again. If Lelouch is still alive, so be it, it wouldn't surprise me, but it would be cheating Suzaku of his revenge and the agreement that Suzaku will get to kill Lelouch. If not, it's fair to assume that he is in the World of C and will be reunited with C.C. (since C.C. tells Mao to wait for her in the World of C before killing him). The one thing that I find absolutely RIDICULOUS is that Suzaku would be willing to go on living as Zero, since Zero did become a symbol... but that symbol still killed Euphie. I suppose he had to justify it as "attoning for his sins," since Lelouch said it would be a punishment for him too... but I honestly can't see Suzaku agreeing to a plan where he has to assume the identity of Euphie's murderer (even if what she did paled in comparison to what Schneizel did with FLEIA and Lelouch... there are still history books, kids!) They definitely could have expanded a bit more on what happened after the ending. All they said is that "the world is a better place," but how? In the end, all Lelouch did was essentially carry out the plan Schneizel was attempting by trying to kill him (killing the common enemy to bring peace)... and Lelouch called that wishing for today. Yet he sacrificed himself to kill the common enemy to bring peace... not much of a difference there, all he did was make people hate him a tiny bit more. LOL. All it accomplished was making Lelouch nobly sacrifice himself as one last good deed to make up for the past. The Zero Requiem was about as non-epic as you could possibly make it. I really just can't help but feel like Tanaguchi just rushed this ending to put CG behind him... make people think Lelouch is dead so the series ends and he is freed from his emo-ness. All in all, the series (for me) was a great journey, which will always make it stand out as an excellent series, but the ending didn't live up to the journey. And then it left loose ends... what is C.C.'s real name? Why was Diethard in a picture that appeared to be taken after he "died"? What happens to the UFN and Britannia? Can Suzaku really be Zero when his 'expertise' isn't exactly the legacy Zero left behind and can he maintain it if he still carries any guilt from the past (we don't know if he resolved his own issues)? No symbols, legends or stories carry on and live forever. As time passes, people forget. So in a way, it REALLY was a reset ending... they recreated a world with peace, but several generations down the line, the rallying calls for Zero will be forgotten and become a fairytale, and humanity will once again pick up what it does best... fight. |
2008-09-28, 12:41 | Link #1006 | |
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Lelouch is dead. |
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2008-09-28, 12:42 | Link #1007 |
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It's not the way I'd write a political science paper, but from a show point of view, it brought enough closure while being open-ended enough to talk about.
Is Guilford blind? I wouldn't let a blind person charge into the street with a SMG... |
2008-09-28, 12:42 | Link #1009 |
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Age: 39
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With everyone who says that lulu died even thou are are alot of things that hint otherwise (like that blogg about if lulu is alive or not with shitload of hints /facts on pages 30-40) .
HOW HOW HOW do you explain that nunally was able to receive lulu's memories. During the entire s1 and s2 it only happened during the cave episode with lulu and c2 !!!! So, unless someone can go back in time, get rich, change geass storyline by giving nunally some supernatural ability from heroes, I belive the ending is clear enough. I already realised that during the actual show even before I came to the forums. And yea.. series name says it also all, CODE GEASS R2, which is really made of code and geass and r2/l2 (japanese dont have r or l but something in between, meaning lulus name is written ルルーシュ・ランペルージ which can be with R or L for non japanese speakers) and with that we get a whole picture, at least I did... Basically even if there are a lot of hints, one CANT EXPLAIN memory transfer with nunaly rather than lulu got the code, as the same situation with memory transfer happened before with lulu and c2, which PROVES the whole thing ? I mean this is just a logical conclusion, isn't it ? |
2008-09-28, 12:45 | Link #1011 | |
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Can somebody explain to me how Lulu could possibly transfer some of his thoughts ( Probably the SELECTED ones as they weren't EVERYTHING that happened during the series ) to Nunnally ? Something similar to that happened in the very first episode of Code Geass were Lulu was dying and he got the geass from C.C... and during the process C.C transferred some of her thoughts / flash backs of emperor and other ppl with geass to Lulu... . it makes sense to me because C.C is Immortal and she has the code... but what about the scene with Lulu and Nunnally ? how possibly can a normal human without the code ( being immortal ) transfer some of his thoughts to somebody else ?! Geass Power wouldn't work in this situation , would it ?! Any explanations ? |
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2008-09-28, 12:45 | Link #1012 | ||
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I'm going with C.C. giving her code to Lelouch, meaning he's immortal but she's not. It's ambiguous whether she was talking to thin air or the driver of the cart at the end. I think they left it like that intentionally. Plus the music seems fitting for a kind of twist end/surprise thing. Well, it's just the theory I'm going with. More evidence points to him being dead as a door nail, but I refuse to accept that, since he promised to make C.C. happy and give her a smile. Quote:
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2008-09-28, 12:46 | Link #1015 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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I haven't been posting here, but I've been writing some ideas on my blog which you would probably like:
Here is my contention that Lelouch is alive. Here is an offering for CC and Lulu fans, like me. Some pictures, whether true or not, and some hints as well regarding his survival. Cheers!
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2008-09-28, 12:49 | Link #1020 | |
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Lelouch got to do what he wants. Light did not. This is why I say Code Geass has a great resolution for Lelouch but Death Note is worthless junk. |
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