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Oh no! Kyrie is coming back to haunt me again.
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2010-04-28, 16:01 | Link #9482 | |
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For my theory, let's see...
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2010-04-28, 16:06 | Link #9483 | |
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Of course he broke it! "Ultimately breaking it anyway it is not 'the sin' itself, but damages Beatrice in turn!" Here's an example how it can possibly work:
P.S: A sacrifice to Knox 8th to satisfy it, blessed be it's name: Jessica: "A community of girls with the wrong impressions can be scary. They could have some secret feud behind your back, and hurt someone or make them cry without you noticing it, right?"
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2010-04-28, 16:08 | Link #9484 | |
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And if your trying to do that why chose someone who naturally has magic resistance?
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2010-04-28, 16:09 | Link #9485 |
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I've got an idea. Beatrice's first letter (The one Maria normally gets.) It says that Beatrice will return all that she took, how ccan she do that if she kill people. But maybe the letter suggests the fake killings. That people are going to pretend to be killed. But than the rekiller comes along and actually kills them. This fits with Beatrice's letter, I mean why does it say she will return EVERYTHING she took. She can't revive the dead...
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2010-04-28, 16:13 | Link #9486 | |
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Why choose Battler? I think the fact that he was not supposed to be there is the primary reason he was chosen. You have to answer what was going on in episodes 5 and 6. Why does it appear that many people are putting on an act for Erika? She's a complete outsider who was not supposed to be there. Uninteresting story? Heh, ok then let's hear your theory and so I can comment on it.
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2010-04-28, 16:18 | Link #9487 |
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What I'm saying is it doesn't add anything interesting to the story. Believing in the witch is Battler's losing condition. Your theory doesn't help anyone stop the murders it makes them impossible for the detective to stop. There isn't even a need for a detective then.
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2010-04-28, 16:31 | Link #9488 | |
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Anyway, I think it's an interesting story when there are multiple people plotting different things. Of course, this doesn't make it impossible for the detective to stop the murders so I really don't have any idea what you are talking about. The detective = the one traveling under the rules of the epitaph in this theory. I think there are plenty of theories out there but I still want to hear everyone else's.
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2010-04-28, 16:33 | Link #9489 |
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Ok either Jessica or Shannon must be the person who calls Battler in ep4. 'Beatrice' mocks Battler's english speaking skills. She even mentions that he used to speak that way before. So many people can be cut. Next we have; what is her reasoning to speak to Battler like this. And why does she mention he used to talk like that. It seems to me only the cousins +Shannon would remember that he talked this way. (Maybe Rudolf and Kyrie too) And Battler clearly says that the voice is female, so we are left with Maria, Jessica, and Shannon. Maria just left the room so it is impossible for her to be the person on the phone. Leaving us with only 2 choices.... well I suppose Kyrie is a possiblity too.
Edit: I find it creepy that a fantasy scene in ep4 implies that Beatrice and Kinzo have sex.. *shivers* Hope it isn't true. Last edited by Laserworm; 2010-04-28 at 16:45. |
2010-04-28, 16:47 | Link #9490 | |
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There are also plenty of times Battler starts beleiving in the witch and the murders still happen in the early episodes. How much does he have to beleive to stop his suffering? Example: episode 2: Battler says we should stop blaming the servants because it's a witch that did it. He says this to Rosa while crying. Then George says his heart is pure and all that. George & Co all die later even though Battler believes in the witch. Why?
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2010-04-28, 16:55 | Link #9491 | |
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Let me turn over the chessboard on you. Think in terms of the real world. Are you saying that someone is not trying to make someone else believe that the murders are occuring in accordance to the epitaph? That's simple to answer. There was never a plan to murder those people and set up a closed room. I believe that there was a conflict and they all died. Afterwards, the closed room was setup and the victims were staked in accordance to the epitaph. However, the closed room was not planned from the beginning because the culprit agreed to stop the murders at that point. I will go into specifics on this if I can ever get enough time to write everything up.
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2010-04-28, 17:04 | Link #9492 | |
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Is it that a witch is the murderer? Is it that they want to revive someone like Beatrice or Kinzo with sacrifices? Or what I think is more likely is that the murders are an incentive to solve the epitaph. If they wanted to murder people to show people magic exists that wouldn't make as much sense since only the Servants and Maria really talk about that.
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2010-04-28, 17:10 | Link #9493 | |
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Whether the epitaph's riddle is solved or not, this child stands nothing to gain at all. Regardless of whether the epitaph is solved or not, Beato has nothing to gain. Regarding the murders, in my theory, solving the epitaph is meaningless. However, traveling under the epitaph's rules is important.
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2010-04-28, 17:13 | Link #9494 |
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I never said Beatrice was the person that wanted it solved did I? Everyone else has something to gain from that. And I don't beleive the person disguising as Beatrice is the culprit in this case. She's the magic trick or a pawn.
Solving it isn't completely meaningless or they wouldn't put so much focus on it in Chiru.
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2010-04-28, 17:21 | Link #9495 | |
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I meant with respect to the murders that occur. Obviously solving the epitaph doesn't stop what happens. So in your theory, why do the fake murders still occur (real murder in Krauss's case) after the epitaph is solved?
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2010-04-28, 17:27 | Link #9496 | |
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To me that explains why there are always two people framed in every episode. Beatrice and a red herring culprit. Someone wanted everyone to think Natuhi, Eva, Rosa, And Kinzo were criminals. And they probably have some criminal backgrounds in the financial world.
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2010-04-28, 17:30 | Link #9497 | |
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2010-04-28, 17:35 | Link #9498 | |
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Well, that's what was one of the suggested the motives back in episode 1 by the adults. I would be very disappointed if this turns out to be one of the motives in the end. Remember, 'Beatrice' killed Battler at the end of episode 4. I agree that 'Beatrice' is a red herring culprit in some of the cases but 'Beatrice' is not just one individual person.
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2010-04-28, 17:39 | Link #9499 | |
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Why would that be dissapointing. The motive is supposed to have clues that suggest it and that motive is very vaild. Greed can easily lead to murder. I would only be dissapointed if it was so far off thing that was only vaguely hinted at once, or there were no clues at all. |
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