Mahou Senki Lyrical Nanoha Force Manga Discussion

[Kaijo]

Originally Posted by Key Board

I'm curious to what gives Eclipse super powers. where is that extra energy coming from?

Where does magical energy come from? Yeah, I know it's kind of explained in a booklet, but that ultimately doesn't answer where it comes from.

But Eclipse infectees are magically powered, too. They can just use magic to delink mana. Sort of like the way we can use matter and physical laws to create anti-matter.

[Key Board]

magic comes from your linker core. It's something a person already has. Having an intelligent device to micromanage all of the calculations and complicated things also helps.

eclipse is using something other than magic. This has been confirmed the PSP game and trading cards, IIRC.

my point is that once you become infected by Eclipse you seem to be stronger, so that extra energy must come from somewhere else.

There's actually a scene in the latest raw where regular untransformed Touma gets tired from carrying around a Strike Canon. Cinque tells him that's noting compared to Nanoha who is carrying a Strike Canon with one hand and wearing heavy fortress equipment while at it.

But when he transforms he becomes stronger

[bhl88]

let me guess... anti-matter so.... anti-magic?

[Arcc]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

Where does magical energy come from? Yeah, I know it's kind of explained in a booklet, but that ultimately doesn't answer where it comes from.

If Tsuzuki could actually explain where magic comes from and how it works in a way that makes sense, he'd have won a dozen Nobel Peace Prizes and we'd all be living in a bright new golden age IRL.

Or we'd have wiped ourselves off the face of the planet.

Or there'd be some massive shadowy conspiracies covering it all up and the Nanoha franchise would have taken some very odd authorial turns to reduce plausibility.

In fact, I th

[Koveras Alvane]

I am not sure whether the above post ends with a blunder or a method conspiracy theorist acting.

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

But Eclipse infectees are magically powered, too. They can just use magic to delink mana. Sort of like the way we can use matter and physical laws to create anti-matter.

No, they aren't, as Key Board said it was stated by canon that the energies produced by the Eclipse are non-magical which is part of the mistery.

[Justin_Brett]

So Hades thinks of both Hayate and Curren. The former's sitting at a desk working, the latter's laying on a couch in a way that shows off her breasts and ass.

Okay then.

[Kuze]

He just wants to fantasize, about grown women, in his room.

Frankly, all things considering, I'm surprised something like that didn't show up earlier.

[Justin_Brett]

It did, when they had her dress up as a school teacher.

[Akiyoshi]

I wonder if there was some kind of relationship between Curren and Hardis/Hades since she seems to be really pissed at the guy for backstabbing her xD

[Kaijo]

You mean there is a male in the Nanoha franchise who thinks of hawt-looking women!?!?!?!?

[Akiyoshi]

That will be a surprise as so far we only had Vice and Verossa but those two are only implied xDU.

[Endscape]

The concept of heterosexual relationships is a surprise in this series...

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Endscape

The concept of heterosexual relationships is a surprise in this series...

Only with onscreen ones. We already have quite the good bunch of heterosexual relationships here:

Shirou x Momoko
Kyouya x Shinobu
Clyde x Lindy
Chrono x Amy
Griffith x Lucino

In Force, i think Tohma, Veyron and Mr. Vandin are the characters closer to have one fo this, but as isn't the foucs of the series is doubtfull if we gonna get to see something like that being explored(Veyron x Fifth?).

[Laith]

Originally Posted by Endscape

The concept of romantic on-screen relationships is a surprise in this series...

There we go, fixed.

[00-Raiser]

In fact the only openly confirmed and acknowledged romantic relationships are heterosexual.

That page in chapter 18, though... Still makes me want to see more Erio/Thoma.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

In fact the only openly confirmed and acknowledged romantic relationships are heterosexual.

And isn't that ironic.

[Justin_Brett]

You mean there is a male in the Nanoha franchise who thinks of hawt-looking women!?!?!?!?

I don't think he's who they're trying to make her appeal to.

[rxrx]

For someone who is 16, Touma seemed pretty unattracted to all the women around him. Sure, he has the eclipse to worry about, but it seem that he had little interest even before getting it, seeing how he is pretty comfortable when he meets the nude Lily for the first time. In addition, he is sharing a room with two ladies and even have one on the same bed as he is. Which makes me want to ask, what isthe use of seperating the room with a curtain when they share the bed? For Isis who have some modesty?

[Akiyoshi]

Take into consideration that he was about to be taken into the Nakajima family ...which include Subaru and Wendy xDU Tohma has probably seen and shared enough to have confidence around ladies. About the curtain probably was shamal's idea, and Tohma, despite being unfazed by the opposite sex is still a boy with good manners so i guess he's thinking on Lily and Isis's modesty rather than his own.