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Alto x VF 171 | 32 | 12.31% | |
Ozma x Bobby | 13 | 5.00% | |
Ranka x Sheryl | 42 | 16.15% | |
Sheryl x Alto | 199 | 76.54% | |
Yasaburo x Alto | 5 | 1.92% | |
Ranka x Ai-kun | 38 | 14.62% | |
Alto x Klan | 14 | 5.38% | |
Ranka x Alto | 54 | 20.77% | |
Ranka x Brera | 37 | 14.23% | |
Klan x Michael | 101 | 38.85% | |
Ozma x Cathy | 111 | 42.69% | |
Luca x Nanase | 41 | 15.77% | |
Wilder x Monica | 41 | 15.77% | |
Alto x VF25 | 37 | 14.23% | |
Yasaburo x Alto's father | 10 | 3.85% | |
Alto x Brera | 18 | 6.92% | |
Grace x Ranka | 12 | 4.62% | |
Nanase x Ranka | 21 | 8.08% | |
Sheryl x Klan | 24 | 9.23% | |
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2008-06-17, 18:17 | Link #281 | |
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Why did he blush? He went all the way down there which is goes against his normal actions. He doesn't usually go out of his way to do things like that for people. Reason he did it once again he felt sorry for her. Why did he hang up the earring in the cockpit? Well she gave it to him as a good luck charm might as well put it to use. Why was he staring at it? Well of course because he had fallen madly in love with her! No, he definitely is touched that she would lend him such a precious item to her for goodluck. That doesn't mean he fallen for her. That his initial reason for going their had to do partly with him feeling sorry for her is what I'm saying. He definitely didn't go their with the intention to seduce her nor did he come away with feelings of love after. Maybe a closer friendship or better understand but definitely no romantic feelings. |
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2008-06-17, 18:31 | Link #282 |
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I don't see him feeling sorry for her being the reason he returned the earring right then. I think it was more that seeing her on the news reminded him to return the earring. He'd probably forgotten about it in the whole having to be on standby which was dropped on them suddenly. It was shown at the start of the ep he had every intention of returning it to her. He just got sidetracked.
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2008-06-17, 18:39 | Link #283 | |
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2008-06-17, 18:43 | Link #284 | |
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Lucca, as Alto only saved him, cause he felt sorry for him and pity. Michel, as Alto only gave him encouragement to surpass his sister and move on with his life, cause he felt sorry and pity for him. Sheryl, returning her earring was just out of pity. Ranka, as giving her encouragement was again cause he felt sorry for her. Osma, because Alto surely only took that punch from him in ep. 2, out of pity for losing his squadron mate. All the VF-25's that Alto pilots, as they end up getting trashed at the end of the episode. Alto only felt pity on them and wanted them to die a glorious death. Give me a break. If he only felt sorry for Sheryl, or pity, then you can put that on every other character he's interacted with so far. I'm not saying he's madly in love with her. You're putting words into my mouth. What I am saying, is he has done things for her, that so far he hasn't shown to do towards anyone else. |
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2008-06-17, 18:48 | Link #285 | ||
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I sure as heck did not imply it was due to romance for Alto to return Sheryl's earring, but you claiming that it was out of pity is simply carrying this way over your head and beyond. Quote:
Alto encouraged Mikhail to shoot because they are romantically involved. Alto encouraged Lucca because they are romantically involved. Alto having a conversation with Quran, alone, in the hanger, that must be romance! Nope, there are NO alternatives, that was romance! Boy, oh boy, he is a busy man indeed. Hell, forget romance, we have been taking turns just bashing Alto left and right. Then again, that may just be interpreted as a different kind of romance! - Tak |
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2008-06-17, 19:20 | Link #286 | ||
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Michael- Sister died and was having doubts after misfiring. Did he fell some sort of compassion for him? He did feel the want to help him get over it? Yes. Sheryl- Yes part of the reason was he felt sorry for her. Ranka- She was about to die yes I do felt he compassion for her dying but probably the main reason was his want to him. Ozma- No, pity here. Alto face just didn't get out of the way of Ozma fist in time. He definitely probably did feel some sorrow and compassion for them. That doesn't mean that the only thing he felt. Why do people risk their lives for others? If it isn't partially because of their compassion for the other person life then somethings wrong. People don't usually like seeing others die especially those they care about. Compassion and sympathy are the exact same as pity but people prefer to use these gentler words. Doesn't mean feeling this when someone is in trouble is in some way wrong. He done things for her he's done for no one else huh? So if Ranka just happens to lose a piece of jewelry and Alto returns it I guess they'll truly then be on even grounds. Quote:
If you read my previous statement you'll see I clearly admit I was exaggerating the point about the earring. If you don't believe he felt compassion and sympathy towards her losing her home and possibly friends then I don't know what to say. |
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2008-06-17, 21:12 | Link #287 | |||
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Edit: I just checked the manga events, and, it seems the weight of his promise to her outweighs everything else in his mind. Wow, I'm surprised I didn't catch that the first time. Quote:
I'm not kidding when I see Alto holding a big part of himself back (read: tsundere) if he ends up with Ranka. Being cuddly and sweet and all that is nice, but if he unleashes the tsundere side of him to someone as awesome and sweet as Ranka, I'd kick his nuts till he goes blue. TBH, Ranka can do better than Alto. Yes, Alto CAN be soft and nice and (try to be) sensitive and all to Ranka, yes, he HAS been encouraged and motivated by her and the same goes for her, but without the added flavor of UST/undertones that they gave to Alto/Sheryl, it's called a sibling relationship. The anime drove the point home that Sheryl is capable of handling Alto as well as kicking him off his throne so she could sit on it. Most of Alto's insults and sarcastic teasing remarks either slide off her like jelly, or she'll return the exchange in the form of a teasing banter. The two are compatible. I'll be honest here, this is what made me abandon the Alto/Ranka ship and jump aboard the Alto/Sheryl one, because even though Alto/Ranka has the potential to be the more nicely done moe!type pairings in a while, I hadn't anticipated a more interesting choice in the other side : I'll take an adult, complex pairing over moe anyday. Last edited by cheesie; 2008-06-17 at 21:41. |
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2008-06-17, 21:37 | Link #288 | |||||||
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Is that what you mean? =/ No matter how you look at it, affection IS affection. If it's genuine then it would be wrong to discriminate. On another note, I may be a Ranka fan, but what else am I to point about her shortcomings here when every little thing has been nitpicked by everyone already---except for Sheryl who was even praised for her arrogance in episode 1. Gee...Must be a really nice alibi to leave her own fans' destiny to someone. She doesn't want leaving her destiny to someone else's hands yet she has no qualms when it comes to her fans leaving their own destiny to the military's hands lol Quote:
And Sheryl's action in the manga when the Vajra attacked is definitely more acceptable than in the anime. I can't see why people would appreciate her nonchalant behavior more than what Alto did in all honesty. Quote:
Anyway, Alto is an anime person. He's not as complex as a real life person who has more sides than what he lets people in on. If he's this kind of complex guy, we certainly would know since Kawamori would want his own characters to be understood by everyone following his story--not just guys. What is so undefinable about Alto's dishonest expression when he lied to Ranka? He simply didn't want Ranka to know he was with Sheryl. The point still stands that he and Ranka are just friends, yet he couldn't lie with a straight face even if he has no reason to feel guilty in the first place. We all can see if Alto is genuinely happy or pissed or bothered or bored--most especially if he's in denial. I don't need to relate to him and put my feet on a guys' perspective because Kawamori already made him like an open book. Quote:
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***edit I'm disappointed at the tags. And I'm biased? LOL Last edited by ani_d; 2008-06-17 at 21:48. |
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2008-06-17, 21:40 | Link #289 | |
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Having the man-creature flirt is OK, having him paired with moe! is not.. Certainly not the type where he took the initiative. - Tak |
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2008-06-17, 21:51 | Link #290 | |
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I'd also like to give a pat to ani_d's back for being the sole Alto x Ranka supporter here in the face of ten Alto x Sheryl supporters (me included now. ) Granted, things did get heated up in the middle, but I hope to have us fighting for our pairings in my other fandoms if we ever agree on a pairing.
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2008-06-17, 21:57 | Link #291 | |
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He took the initiative to give her a piggy back ride to the shooting site and didn't let her walk on her own two feet even when she woke up. He also took the initiative to tell Ranka to wipe her eyes since "everyone is going to see her crying." That's not sensitivity?
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2008-06-17, 22:38 | Link #292 | |
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Actually, there is Slick_rick as well Although in the face of tremendous odds, the Ranka Alliance might consider exercising better coordination. For the Royal Guards of her Majesty Queen Sheryl the 1st, are relentless foes *snicker* - Tak Last edited by Tak; 2008-06-17 at 22:49. |
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2008-06-17, 23:09 | Link #293 | |
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Sheryl is awesome, but not to the point where I pledge loyalty yet. I'm sure there's more to her character that has yet to be dissected. However, I'm not surprised by her popularity. If it were other characters, she'll be bashed for being overrated, but with the multi-layers of her personality in the anime, as well as her blog entries (which is evidently written carefully under the consideration of her character), it saved her from being the overrated tag. She is one of the better characters to come out in a long, long time, a breath of fresh air compared to one-dimensional moe trash. That's not to say Ranka isn't a good character too, she is, but she carries some of the stereotypical moe traits with her and so, requires just a bit of effort to leave all that behind her and become a character that won't allow to be overshadowed by Sheryl. Last edited by cheesie; 2008-06-17 at 23:19. |
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2008-06-18, 00:23 | Link #295 |
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Rankas growth is going a bit to fast and its going to overwhelm her going to be in this order
grow-happy-grow-questionable-grow-emo-grow-starts cutting self. But maybe she will get out of it who knows. as for Sheryl she has some good growth so far all who think correctly should know what i mean and im not going to explain this because fights are annoying and i hate reading super ass long post x.x As for macross its self TO DAMN SLOW 2 WEEKS OMG!!!!
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2008-06-18, 00:51 | Link #296 | |
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Cheers to that! I raise my glass to a character such as Sheryl who breaks some standard anime conventions or at the very least, deviates from the current trend. --Lone Wolf 一匹狼 |
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2008-06-18, 00:55 | Link #297 | |||
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@ Tak
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First about her arrogance in general. I made a post to state my opinion that her arrogance is not pointless and reasonless. Swampstorm did me a reply and digged into the question much furthur. He educated me that even though she tends to behave arrogantly, however, she is aware of it and never lets it go out of control. Spoiler for original posts:
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It's true for you and your fellow Ranka fans. But there is some big problems for most people adopt it. People have seen this kind of gems too often (anime, manga, novel, movie, and TV series), and people are already too busy with cheering for Sheryl. That is why not many people dislike her, but not many speak for her at the same time.
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2008-06-18, 01:38 | Link #300 | ||
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I'm getting a little worn out arguing the same points over and over again. The ending might very well show a Ranka x Alto ending. As of episode 10 though, this race is Sheryl's to lose, and denying that, is being blind, or ignorant to what we've been shown so far with the differences in the scenes. Look at the adult interactions between Sheryl x Alto. Look at the big brother/little sister interactions between Ranka and Alto. After episode 1, once Sheryl enters the picture for real. Who gets the adult situations, the adult conversations, the adult interactions? Who stimulates Alto mentally, physically, emotionally? I'm not asking which girl stimulates you, I'm asking who stimulates Alto... Look at it from his shoes if you can. (outside of his total lack of interest in relationships and females, and his girlish looks, he's alot like me even the love of flying that I had as a teenager(my father was a Navy pilot/Corporate Pilot)). |
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