Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid Manga Discussion

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Gx Hero

Isn't the whole I am remembering my ancestor thing what this is all about, also Vivio has started to see olivie's past

My issue isn't that she's remembering. My issue is that she seems to be having trouble distinguishing between herself and her ancestor. She considers his failures to be her failures, his faults her faults, his guilt hers. It isn't healthy.

[MeisterBabylon]

Well no one said lolis had to be psychologically sound and mentally intact individuals, much less a being of odd birth carrying the mind of another person!

[Gx Hero]

Well she had those memories from birth as far as we know. Besides dealing with the ancient Belkan rulers pas is sort of the main point of VIVID.

I wonder how long before Vivio has to Starlight breaker Einheart, since VIvio is taking after her mother.

[Takamura Mamoru]

Originally Posted by Gx Hero

I wonder how long before Vivio has to Starlight breaker Einheart, since VIvio is taking after her mother.

Something along those lines... Not too long.

Also, plot has returned to the tournament in the newest chapter.

[Akiyoshi]

So, finally Fabia vs. Lutecia - Part II?

[DragonXX]

a new chapter out

[Zelene2004]

how many chapters are out (raw i mean)?

[green-link94]

Should be around 70 or so.

[Nachtwandler]

To bad English translation is only up to chapter 53 or so.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Chapter 52 is up.

Einhart is being too harsh on herself for "forgetting" about the little witch from Claus and Olivie's time. She didn't forget, she never knew. The memory wasn't hers, after all. She didn't live through it, so until some sort of trigger brought it to her conscious attention she wasn't aware of the knowledge in that memory at all. Of course, it feels just like her own memories, so it feels to her like she forgot. The curse of carrying memories from two different lifetimes. I've noticed more than once recently that she's been saying "I" sometimes when talking about things Claus did or felt. She insisted to Sieg that she was herself, but... I worry.

I felt they were going for her being a true reincarnation so she was Claus. Still not healthy expecting to remember everything though.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

So, finally Fabia vs. Lutecia - Part II?

Judging on the first fight, I think the second will probably be Lutecia's to lose. Fabia's revealed most of her cards, Lutecia still hasn't demonstrated her summons, and quite alot of her spells and trump cards. Fabia's internal monologue shows very clearly Fabia has no clue about Lutecia's summons, and large parts of Lutecia's arsenal, or that Lutecia was a S ranker as early as age 10. Also, it doesn't seem (correct me if I am wrong), that Lutecia had to activate her Barrier Jacket during the first fight.

So, Fabia v Lutecia Part II would probably be worth it, for the look on Fabia's face when Lutecia starts her Summon spamming....

Also, I am wondering - since Lutecia is a Commissioned Mage within the TSAB, does this imply that her Limiter Restrictions have been lightened? Or was she basically fighting Fabia and the entire tournament for that matter, badly nerfed with D Rank Limiter? If that's the case, I wonder whether non-nerfed Lutecia could give Jeremiah a real-challenge. Then again, Jeremiah is basically insanely OP. And there are also further implications for Lutecia being a Commissioned Mage - this could suggest that she might well be going on missions for the TSAB - I would presume, missions requiring stealth and sabotage.

[Takamura Mamoru]

Fabia vs Lutecia II won't happen as Lutecia already won their tournament fight (because Fabia left the tournament I think)

Also I reckon her summons are against the rules much like other kinds of magic is. Else she could just stomp everyone with Garyu and Beetle-Godzilla.
She's basically in this tournament not using her main skill.
She did use summons against Fabia, but also didn't even bother transforming and basically got surprise-gibbed. One would wonder if Fabia's magic wouldn't be against tournament rules too, considering that turning your opponents device into flowers seems ridiculously broken.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Takamura Mamoru

Fabia vs Lutecia II won't happen as Lutecia already won their tournament fight (because Fabia left the tournament I think)

Also I reckon her summons are against the rules much like other kinds of magic is. Else she could just stomp everyone with Garyu and Beetle-Godzilla.
She's basically in this tournament not using her main skill.
She did use summons against Fabia, but also didn't even bother transforming and basically got surprise-gibbed. One would wonder if Fabia's magic wouldn't be against tournament rules too, considering that turning your opponents device into flowers seems ridiculously broken.

I think Jeremiah could take on Garyu and Beetle Godzilla down, and still would be in good shape to take on Lutecia Alpine.

Also, the way you put it, it seems as if Lutecia is fighting this tournament, with both hands tied to her back.

[Akiyoshi]

Let's not overhype Sieg that much, she definetely can beat Garyuu but I have y reserves about Hakuten-Oh that thing is nearly Voltaire's equal. Sieg may be a monster against armies and one on one fights but we don't know how well she would do against magical Kaiju. Giant sandworms gave some fight to Nanoha team and the Wolkenritter in A's and Hakuten-Oh is presumably stronger than those.

[novalysis]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

Let's not overhype Sieg that much, she definetely can beat Garyuu but I have y reserves about Hakuten-Oh that thing is nearly Voltaire's equal. Sieg may be a monster against armies and one on one fights but we don't know how well she would do against magical Kaiju. Giant sandworms gave some fight to Nanoha team and the Wolkenritter in A's and Hakuten-Oh is presumably stronger than those.

Still, Sieg vs full power Lutecia in a no holds bar fight, would probably mandate outright evacuations of the surrounding areas. It would definitely be epic.

What is Sieg's rank by the way as a Mage? I wouldn't be surprised if she's a S ranker, at minimum.

[00-Raiser]

New chapter is out.

[Random Wanderer]

I don't think Sieg would be particularly worried about summons. The big ones might be a challenge, but those things quite plainly were shown to be very slow in every way. She'd take them down.

Asking if she can do enough damage to take out the giant summon: not a concern. The eraser can obliterate anything in its way. Sieg will never have a problem with "how do I hit something hard enough." Her problem for her entire life has always been "how do I not hit it [/i]too[/i] hard?" Given the flashback, she used to accidentally kill anyone she touched.

[Diluc]

Chapter 61
Seem we near the ending since Einhart has met her resolution.

[vic-vic]

Originally Posted by Roxis

Chapter 61
Seem we near the ending since Einhart has met her resolution.

Nope. From what I get from chinesse scans there is many things to explore...

Spoiler for For example:

1) Ixpellia awaken
2) There is new girl appears - she not a fighter though.
3) Team Nakajima + Mikiah move to Rio dodjo to learn new techniques

[FlareKnight]

Well you had to figure it would go that direction for Einhart. One thing I'm curious about is how she'll be going forward. I agree the present should be a prime thing for her and so should her own life. But I don't want her to outright reject the past and the memories she's inherited. After all trying to fulfill those wishes has been a core part of her life. Throwing all that away would be kind of rough.

Look forward to see where the story goes in general. Plenty of possible directions.