2012-11-15, 07:10 | Link #1562 | |
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Well assuming this palace is way above SS in an unknown location, it could still make sense that a key would be needed to gain direct access. Though I don't really know what to make of the whole palace being in its own dimension part of it. |
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2012-11-15, 09:42 | Link #1563 |
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Aizen was to create a replica of the King's Key.
He found a method of creating it by amassing lots of spirit particles. Urahara created fake Karakura town and lured Aizen&co. there. Battle ensues. Arc ends the original King's Key's location, is only known by the Captain Commander and now, since he's dead. No one will ever know how sad
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2012-11-15, 10:44 | Link #1564 |
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If Yamamoto was the only one who knew where the King's Key was, and died without nominating a successor (presumably), how did anyone get into the King's Realm in order to summon Squad Zero? Has anyone checked on the state of Karakura recently?
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2012-11-15, 11:31 | Link #1565 | |
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Why didn't they just drop the pillar of awesome on Aizen when he was standing around? Even he couldn't survive that, and they (apart perhaps from Hikifune) have never seen his shikai if he got back up to try to steal their return journey to the King's Realm |
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2012-11-15, 14:46 | Link #1567 | |
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2012-11-15, 15:04 | Link #1568 | |
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2012-11-15, 18:01 | Link #1569 |
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Probably not worth it to make too much sense of power levels, but if I had to take a guess, Kyouraku would be about 60% of Yamamoto's strength and the Royal Guard around 90% each. I don't think any of the RG is stronger than him individually. That's not taking into account hax sword abilities and all that. Yamamoto could take out the entire Gotei 13 with his abilities. 5 near-Yamamoto level Shinigami still seems overkill for Bach, except for the fact that he has Yamamoto's bankai. Wouldn't be suprised if his subordinate was stronger though.
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2012-11-15, 19:07 | Link #1570 |
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I don't get why it's hard to believe Yamamoto had a subordinate stronger than himself, especially when you consider that she (if she actually is stronger) was promoted to 0 Squad for her power and wasn't even serving under him after that. It's like saying Naruto can't be stronger than X because X is a jounin and Naruto is a genin.
Considering how easily Yamamoto was manhandled by the real Juha it wouldn't be surprising for these guys to be stronger than him. Wouldn't even be surprised if their shikai are on the same level as Yama's bankai. They don't necessarily have to have the same wide-area destructive power for them to be stronger than him.
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2012-11-15, 20:01 | Link #1571 | |
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2012-11-16, 09:55 | Link #1573 | |
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As I said it's just hard to picture the Gotei with a Captain near or on par Yamamoto level because the existing Captains are just way off..
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2012-11-16, 10:19 | Link #1574 | |
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2012-11-16, 10:31 | Link #1575 | |
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In the end Bach just had a good plan to trick Yamamoto, I can't imagine how a younger wilder and bloodthirstier Yamamoto would not have lost against Bach's trap. It remains to be seen how he will fare against the Zero Squad(although I bet he will be heavily relying on the stolen Bankai) without funny stuff like Doppelgänger.
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2012-11-16, 12:05 | Link #1576 |
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Poor yamato has been trolled so hard by the author. first by aizen now this last ditch attempt at making a menacing villian. we will never see him go full force vs anyone because he gets plot crippled or ends up fighting a meaty kage bunshin.
Hype up secondary characters and then have them fall flat. Zero squad will be no different. Just give ichigo his qunicy power up, kill bach, and finish theseries.
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2012-11-16, 12:12 | Link #1577 | |
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also in terms of power levels, nothing really makes sense no matter how we look at it, since yama-jii in bankai state should have been so powerful that nobody but ichigo, aizen and bach should have been able to even feel his reiatsu... which wasn't the case |
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2012-11-16, 18:09 | Link #1578 |
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Members of the division 0 for all these hundreds of years remained at the top to protect the king probably did not stay doing nothing I would imagine they are trained they may have more room and in the one of them leads they are brief and therefore become even stronger ...
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2012-11-17, 20:52 | Link #1580 |
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I have a question I ask myself (hoping for answers), then the dimension of the king and the division 0 are in one dimension or something like cut of all? and that one little access with the key emprore I think? (not 200%) short Juha said that arrive Division 0 and that is his and he had to leave (this is the case then they osnt) in any case if this is how it all cut were aware someone told you that he has come to the SS, and by what means and ok but the king to warn him? division 0 does have a way of comunication Soul Society / Division 0 only whether a person would imagine that I Yamamoto but he is "dead" so .. could be he would have to give way to Unohana example?
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