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Originally Posted by Momosan
Since when was Lelouch ever being an ass to the world? Throughout the entirety of the show Lelouch constantly tried to minimize casualties, but not at the expense of results. There are far too many examples that would take up too much time explaining, but some examples are; Euphy, Suzaku, Shirley, and Rolo. Every single one of these characters inhibits Lelouch's plans at some point in the series yet Lelouch never sacrificed a single one of them. Lelouch constantly discusses how he's tired of losing things that are dear to him and never once sacrificed any of them.
Also, how could anyone interpret Lelouch as being an Asshole to Nunnally? At the end Lelouch used the Geass to prevent Nunnally from feeling as if she betrayed the world. He understood Nunnally was too firmly rooted in her convictions to allow Lelouch to continue his plans (plans that would bring peace to the world) so instead of trying to convince her to join him, the evil side, he used his Geass as a means to make her feel betrayed. In this respect Lelouch preserves Nunnally's desire to save the world, even if it means he'll have to betray the one thing he longs for most: his sister's love.
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Momosan, is it? Listen, generally when you want to join in on a conversation, it's important to understand the
context. What this means is you should actually
read and
understand what has already been said, and what is currently being discussed. Then, once you have fully grasped the state of the situation, you can contribute
new ideas which haven't been stated before.
For example. Here you are trying to disprove my point that Lelouch was a jackass. The thing to understand, then, is
when I said Lelouch was being a jackass: and I was, obviously, referring to his time during the Zero Requiem. Read over the past couple pages if you have to for some explicit examples; however, this fact really should be blatantly obvious, if you remember that it was Lelouch's
plan to do jackass things so people would hate him (e.g. make a mockery of democracy, Geass a whole army to be his slaves, kill anybody who spoke up against him,
make Nunally fall down a flight of stairs).
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As for Kallen, I didn't really have a problem with how the series handled her. It was made apparent Lelouch had conflicting desires about the multitude of female characters surrounding him.
Shirley's Romance:
Kallen's Romance
C.C.'s Romance
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Wow, this whole thing was really offensive.
Moving away from this:
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Geass Code and C.C.'s memories
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C.C. didn't seal her memories. She sealed her
Code. This is explicitly stated by Marianne in Turn 20. And yes, this
proves that Code is associated with one's memories.
A fellow poster has already pointed out the much more convincing likelihood of
character development.
Now to move onto why the V.V.'s Code interpretation is wrong:
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Originally Posted by Momosan
Charles was a fully developed geass user (This is denoted in both eyes being Geass) and takes V.V.'s code. This happens when The Black Knights raid the geass research institute and V.V. is ultimately defeated in Orange's knightmare frame. Since V.V.'s code was taken by Charles, he lost his regenerative powers and passed away.
Fast forward to when Lelouch uses his Geass on the "gods" to prevent Charles and Marianne from creating a new world, you can see at that moment that Lelouch's geass evolves into a fully developed form which allows the passing of Geass code. Before Charles disintegrates he grabs Lelouch with his right hand which beared the seal of the Geass Code and this is when his code is transferred to Lelouch.
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"Both eyes being Geass" does not necessarily denote a fully developed Geass user. This was shown with Mao. If you consider the only two confirmed cases of Code Transfer, the Nun didn't push hers onto C.C. until she'd had her Geass for ~6 years, while the Emperor held onto his for decades while additionally being able to turn his on and off. Aside from this, note also that Charles lost his Geass upon attaining Code (note Lelouch's: "You can't use Geass" from Stage 07, Charles' "I traded my Geass for greater power" in Turn 15 as confirmation you can't have both). Lelouch used his Geass five minutes after your supposed transfer scene.
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Also, to reinforce this argument, prior to this point in the series Lelouch was always quite afraid of death whenever it presented itself in the form of Mao or whatever. After he obtains Charles's code he never once fears for his life again even when his Knightmare frame is destroyed while infiltrating the final floating fortress.
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'Mao or whatever'? You're going to need better proof than that to back up your statements. Lelouch has always believed 'those who shoot must be willing to be shot', and he even said 'life without action is like a slow death' to justify killing himself in Stage 07. From chatting conversationally at gunpoint (numerous instances), to strapping a sakuradite bomb onto himself, Lelouch has never shown any fear or hesitation about putting his life on the line. You know if Lelouch actually
had immortality there's no way he wouldn't use it to his advantage; rather than just run away after Tristan destroyed Shinkurou, why not
let Gino think he killed him? That way there'd be less people chasing him and he wouldn't have had to bother with some lame video trick to
Geass (note again why this makes him having Code impossible) Schniezel.
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