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2008-08-01, 17:45 | Link #3202 | |
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Of course, someone set up like that would be ineffective at any actual combat. Being unable to really move and all... EDIT: Funny image: This would probably look like a megaman stage boss. Dunnnn nun nun nunnn!!! [RADIATOR MAN!] "Your magic can't hurt me!" doo do... dooo do... do do dobidedooooo!!!!! |
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2008-08-01, 18:01 | Link #3203 | ||
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Radiator man: "Your magic can't hurt me!"
Nanoha: "... But that suit looks really difficult to move around in." Radiator man: "Er..." Nanoha: I'll just be moving on to that door behind you. Nice talking to you! Radiator man: "..." Quote:
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2008-08-01, 18:15 | Link #3204 | ||
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2008-08-01, 18:19 | Link #3205 |
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Gotta agree with Keroko.
Also, i have got the feeling Belka MAD themselves. I may be wrong, but they seemed *way* above midchilda in tech, and it seemed that mid didn't really have much solid facts on things like the cartirdge system of belkan style, hence the new "Belkan" style. Remmeber that things like Genetically modified people were common in Belka, and there seem to be some type of "Ancient Wisdom" thing of Belka theme going on. As for the activation code, it should be like a login password in windows. Not useful for someone like Nanoha whose affinity for RH is extremely high. Com: Actually, SS-Rank remains unknown too. If you are going to have Eva being unknown because we don't see upper lmit to her awesomeness, you'll have to do the same for Eva. Heck, we haven't Seen *Nanoha* go all out in a Non-AMF environment. Last edited by Arkeus; 2008-08-01 at 18:21. Reason: new post! |
2008-08-01, 18:34 | Link #3206 | ||
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Nah, Belka and Mid were about equal in technology (otherwise we'd have a hard time explaining why in the world Mid even won the war) its just that the focuss has been a bit much on the Belkan side lately. I myself would love to see a Lost Logia weapon of Mid's side of the war being found.
Mid did have knowledge on the Belkan system (they even had a serial number for the Cartridge system) they just didn't use it as much. Also, Belkan doesn't mean you automatically use Cartridges. Neither Carim, Acous, Hayate, Shamal, Zafira or Zest use Cartridges. Quote:
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2008-08-01, 18:38 | Link #3207 |
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Keroko: did it ever say midchilda won the war, or that they were the only two participants?
Also, they did have a serial number for the "Cartridge" part, but no idea on how to implement it (it took them a week to do so in a lesser way). It seemed to me it was all theorotical, and once the Knights came and information was shared, that they gave information on Belkan magic (hence the "Neo-Belkan" style). Or at least that's what i got.^^ This is all conjectures, after all. |
2008-08-01, 18:54 | Link #3208 | ||
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But Belkan magic was used by Mid long before Nanoha and co. Zest and Quint are only two examples of Belkan users, and Vice was a Mid-user using Cartridges. *nod* True. |
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2008-08-01, 19:07 | Link #3209 | |
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Also, isn't Belka user super rare before? Hence the remark about Carim and her brother having Rare Belkan Magic. yeah, i may be wrong, but i really think Belka's Defeat was more complicated (and that the raddle had a role to play, hence the "Destroying of a world" remark). |
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2008-08-01, 19:24 | Link #3210 | |
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2008-08-01, 20:27 | Link #3211 | ||
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I felt Subaru's dialogue was a little strange for her personality. Instead of "Big rolly ball types" I'd say "Gimongous ball types" but I guess its just me. And that quote has to be made into a plaque. XD This post has done Arisa and Sein justice. Sankt Kaiser approves. Yeeeeap Quote:
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2008-08-01, 20:49 | Link #3212 | |
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That's one of the points of GenerationS in the first place, since the enemy this time are all pure Mid-Childan style and tech (aside from Grandis). Naturally, Lost Logia will be involved. =3
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2008-08-01, 21:31 | Link #3213 | |
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Eva on the other hand has no such fancy devices but her affinity is Darkness and Ice and she has at minimum 400 years of experience. If not for the difference in Magic Types, I would say Eva is WEAKER then Chrono when Unseal without using Magia Erebea. Using that however is probably sort of like Blaster Mode for Nanoha, massive powerup but dangerous draw backs. In the end, I believe Eva is about a S- ranker at best, Stronger than Chrono but not as strong as Nanoha. |
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2008-08-01, 21:39 | Link #3214 | |
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2008-08-01, 21:55 | Link #3215 |
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Meh, I'd say Evangeline is in Signum territory- tons of experience, massive CC skill and attack power (especially with Magia Erebea) and she can still pull out ridiculously strong nukes if she really needs to... she just doesn't do it much 'cause it's less fun.
And then she has her regeneration.
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2008-08-01, 22:02 | Link #3216 | |
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For all we know, End of the World could be the weakest of Eva's high-end spells; there are simply too many question marks that come up when the specifics of Eva's power level gets discussed. I'm having enough problems trying to figure the rest of the Negima cast into the pecking order of Nanoha's power levels, so for the sake of maintaining the status quo (the mentor with no equal), Eva's spot at the top of the dog pile is reserved until I see evidence that she actually has limits when unsealed and fighting for real, which will be difficult to acquire considering that she's never fought all-out.
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2008-08-01, 22:07 | Link #3217 | |
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2008-08-01, 22:09 | Link #3218 | |
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Edit: About regeneration, Eva is a vampire with high regenerative abilities that is part of her vampirism and not connected to her magic. I think you forgot that Nanoha, a HUMAN survived a strike through the chest as well on a mission with Vita, without regeneration. If anything, Nanoha surviving it is a greater feat then Eva. |
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2008-08-01, 22:23 | Link #3219 | ||
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Taking these things into account, and accounting for her use and probable mastery of Magia Erebea, I'd pin Eva as being--at the minimum, mind you--somewhere between S+ and SS+. And that's not even accounting for her physical combat skills and other vampiric powers. Quote:
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2008-08-01, 22:49 | Link #3220 | |
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And Ranks have huge gaps in the higher tiers. So Eva even with Magia Erebea and physical combat skills (Chrono also has Physical combats skills) and other Vampiric powers, which iirc, is only flight, no weakness to sunlight, not aging and regeneration, is still at best only a S- ranker at best. You can theory craft on unknowns to your heart's content but its at best theory and at worst wild speculations on your part. I rather theory craft on known data instead of almost pure unknown data. Its hard for you to convince me and maybe others because you don't really have anything at all to back your claims of her abilities. |
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